What if each Power5 conference had a Gof5 conference attached to it which would serve as a "feeder"?
Geographically the partners would be:

SEC - Sun
Big12 - CUSA
ACC - AAC
B1G - MAC
PAC - MWC

At the end of each season the Gof5 conference champ would play the last place team from the P5 conference it is affiliated with in a relegation/promotion game. If the Gof5 school wins they get "promoted" to the big time and the loser gets relegated to the feeder group.

Using 2017 standings we'd have seen:

AAC champs UCF vs. 3-9 North Carolina (Pretty sure UCF would have promoted and would be in the ACC this season).
MWC champs Boise vs. 1-11 Oregon St.
MAC champs Toledo vs. 2-10 Illinois
CUSA champs FAU vs. 1-11 Kansas
SUN champs Troy vs. 4-8 Tennessee

If/when teams are relegated/promoted they simply inherit each other's schedules for the next season.

No more cryng about Gof5 not getting a chance in the playoffs. They are no longer eligible for the CFP in this system, but may promote and THEN be eligible. So last season's UCF would likely be in the ACC this season playing NC's schedule. Looking at that schedule, they'd likely still be unbeaten (though maybe not), but would almost certainly be representing the Coastal instead of 4 loss Pitt.

Obviously if it happened, the conferences could choose their own "feeder" conferences, and could potentially "build their own" from among all of the available Gof5 schools. The Gof5 schools could also share in revenue with their P5 partner (a small %, which would likely be more than they get under the current system).

I'd also force the P5 conferences to move to at least 12 teams (all but the Big12 currently have that anyway).

Does this apply to just football or are you banished from the conference in all sports if you lose the football game?

title nine says strikeout

lets just go with VC and his black pajama concept. this is original thinking

Posted by strikeout26 on 12/3/2018 8:33:00 PM (view original):
Does this apply to just football or are you banished from the conference in all sports if you lose the football game?

Football only.

Other sports don't have the absurd and unique potential of ending the season with more than one unbeaten team.

I should also mention that I do understand this is something that is not likely to ever be taken seriously, but I do think it would be pretty cool.

What will ultimately happen is the P5 schools will likely form their own subdivision where Go5 schools aren't included at all, except for potential out of conference filler games.

That's what I would like to see. Create 3 division I levels. Right now the Go5 teams are playing for nothing.

2018 final standings would have produced:

UCF vs Louisville.
UCF likely wins, promotes to ACC and last night we'd have gotten to see ND @ UCF.

This was my proposal from 5 seasons ago.

I would, in light of changes in the last 5 years, amend it somewhat as described below:


Four 20 team conferences, each having a "feeder" conference attached to it, for revenue sharing and promotion/relegation opportunities.

For scheduling, each conference is setup with 5 pods of 4 teams each.

11 game conference-only schedule, where each team plays the three teams in their pod, then all 4 teams from 2 of the other 4 pods, rotating each season.

Pod 1 plays pod 2&3 (4&5 the following year)
Pod 2 plays pod 1&4 (3&5)
Pod 3 plays pod 1&5 (2&4)
Pod 4 plays pod 2&5 (1&3)
Pod 5 plays pod 3&4 (1&2)

Additionally, you set it up like the NFL AFC/NFC type format, with 2 conferences tied together for the playoffs.

In this example, I'll put the SEC and ACC on one side with the B1G and Big12 on the other side.

For this demonstration I've added teams without a lot of concern.
I'm also using 2024 records and rankings prior to the conference championship games.


B1G

Pod1
Penn St. (11-1) #2 seed
Ohio St. (10-2) #4 seed
Michigan (7-5)
Michigan St. (5-7)

Pod2
Notre Dame (11-1) #3 seed
Indiana (11-1) #5 seed
Maryland (4-8)
Purdue (2-10)

Pod3
Illinois (9-3) #6 seed
Iowa (8-4) #8 seed
Nebraska (6-6)
Northwestern (4-8)

Pod4
UConn (8-4) #7 seed
Rutgers (7-5)
Minnesota (7-5)
Wisconsin (5-7)

Pod5
Oregon (12-0) #1 seed
Washington (6-6)
USC (6-6)
UCLA (5-7)


Big12

Pod1
Boise St. (11-1) #1 seed
Arizona St. (10-2) #2 seed
UNLV (10-2) #5 seed
Arizona (4-8)

Pod2
Iowa St. (10-2) #4 seed
Kansas St. (9-3) #7 seed
Kansas (5-7)
Oklahoma St. (3-9)

Pod3
Baylor (8-4) #8 seed
TCU (8-4)
Texas Tech (8-4)
Houston (4-8)

Pod4
BYU (10-2) #3 seed
Colorado (9-3)
Washington St. (8-4)
Utah (5-7)

Pod5
Marshall (9-3) #6 seed
West Virginia (6-6)
Cincinnati (5-7)
UCF (4-8)


For the post season you pit these two conferences together and 1st 3 rounds are played on campuses.

Game 12 (1st round playoffs)
8 Baylor v 1 Oregon
5 Indiana v 4 Iowa St.
6 Illinois v 3 BYU
7 Kansas St. v 2 Penn St.

and

8 Iowa v 1 Boise St.
5 UNLV v 4 Ohio St.
6 Marshall v 3 Notre Dame
7 UConn v 2 Arizona St.


Hypothetical results based purely on my opinion:


Game 13 (2nd round)
5 Indiana v 1 Oregon
3 BYU v 2 Penn St.

and

4 Ohio St. v 1 Boise St.
3 Notre Dame v 2 Arizona St.


Game 14 (3rd round)
2 Penn St. v 1 Oregon
and
4 Ohio St. v 3 Notre Dame


Game 15 (4th round) - to be played at a NY6 bowl location.
4 Ohio St. v 1 Oregon


Game 16 - NCG - Location of the NCG could be shopped around to any location just as the Super Bowl does.

Ohio St. v champion of ACC/SEC portion



Additionally you tie a Group of 5 conference to each of the four "big dogs" who gain limited profit sharing as a "sub conference".

B1G - MAC
B12 - MWC
SEC - Sunbelt
ACC - AAC

Conference USA teams and independents get split into those 4 "sub conferences".

Champions of the "feeder" conferences play a promotion/relegation game v the worst team from their "big dog" tie-in conference for opportunity to move into the "big dog" conference and a greater share of revenue.

Relegation/Promotion games for the 4 conferences would be played at the 4 NY6 bowl locations that didn't host a semifinal game.

Examples from 2024.

MAC champ Ohio v B1G (2-10) Purdue
MWC champ Colorado St. v B12 (3-9) Oklahoma St.
SUN champ Louisiana v SEC (2-10) Mississippi St.
AAC champ Army v ACC (2-10) Florida St.

That produces 80 "seats at the table".
With the opportunity for smaller schools to get in potentially.

It's not like there would be a lot of promotions/relegations actually happening each season.

And to the detractors who point to stadium size as a reason the concept is untenable, I'd say once a feeder school gets promoted, the opportunity for an increased share of the revenue might afford them the opportunity to build a larger stadium.

I do like your concepts with the promotion & relegations. With the current NIL situation & portal, it could possibly be a matter of years before the MAC and other similar conferences/schools can never even put together a few dominant seasons.