Like I said, probably 10 points more. You didn’t even say what the history of Alabama was when you took it over. Not providing enough context. But like I also said, WVU with more money is more powerful. Look at Wilkinson. I’m 1-12 with WV, but can still consider me elite if I battled Alabama right now. I probably have $80k more money.

Posted by AlekTX2020 on 11/27/2023 3:46:00 PM (view original):
Like I said, probably 10 points more. You didn’t even say what the history of Alabama was when you took it over. Not providing enough context. But like I also said, WVU with more money is more powerful. Look at Wilkinson. I’m 1-12 with WV, but can still consider me elite if I battled Alabama right now. I probably have $80k more money.

You just go right ahead and battle Bama for someone that's equal distance away from you both. If you win that battle it'll hurt the rest of your class if he's trying to win it too.

But you’re not getting my point. I would win the battle. If we both only went for 1 recruit = equal distance. I have authority over him. And that’s 1-12 WV. It explains my case. I have 15-1 MSU with $100k, if I battled Rutgers with same scenario he would be crushed. If I battled Florida State equal distance I would win out no questions. If I battled LSU I would lose probably by 10%. If I’m at around 13th prestige and best budget (SEC) that’s an elite team.

If I move my 48 wins in 4 years to 55-60 wins that will definitely put me near the top 5 programs if SEC continues to produce $$.

So is MSU elite? YES

CASE DISMISSED

List of Non-Elites w/ equal or greater success in Leahy in last 5-10 Seasons

Miss St (1 Conf Title/3 Playoff Wins)
Clemson (2 Conf Titles/2 Playoff Wins)
Missouri (4 Playoff Wins)
Rutgers (6 Conf Titles/Final 4/15 Playoff Wins)
Minnesota (1 Conf Title/2 Final 4s/15 Playoff Wins)
Rice (National Title)
Washington (1 Conf Title/2 Playoff Wins- Only 4 seasons in job)
Cal - (3 Conf Titles/3 Playoff Wins)

Miss St - Still not Elite

Posted by johnalanharr on 11/27/2023 6:59:00 PM (view original):
List of Non-Elites w/ equal or greater success in Leahy in last 5-10 Seasons

Miss St (1 Conf Title/3 Playoff Wins)
Clemson (2 Conf Titles/2 Playoff Wins)
Missouri (4 Playoff Wins)
Rutgers (6 Conf Titles/Final 4/15 Playoff Wins)
Minnesota (1 Conf Title/2 Final 4s/15 Playoff Wins)
Rice (National Title)
Washington (1 Conf Title/2 Playoff Wins- Only 4 seasons in job)
Cal - (3 Conf Titles/3 Playoff Wins)

Miss St - Still not Elite

John, your argument doesn't work. It's too full of factual information and not subjective guesses at behind the scenes programming.

DD you’re a moron. Join the world please.

Clemson: ACC (below average)
Missouri: Big 12 (still didn’t win the conference)
rutgers: big East (that’s g5, full of sims)
Rice: SD stacked a class. Sacrificed the other 3 classes to get his bone and leave the program.
Washington: PAC 12 lol, easier schedule, still doesn’t match MSU’s.


Cal and Minnesota’s achievements are the only 2 that I acknowledge. 2 more benchmarks over 10 seasons bro, love how you’re trying to get something to stick. Join the fun if you’re going to keep replying to this.

If I have to focus on just winning at the best possible scenario regardless of job to prove a point I will.

You keep moving goal posts - You said Leahy was a legit world and just said there's only 1 good conference.

These teams didn't just win conference games - They are MORE successful than you inbgames that matter where the playing field is even and playing good teams every game.

They make consistent Elite 8s - A single Final 4 - You insulted a National Title

I'm in enough worlds having greater success than you. Multiple Dobie Final 4s and beat National Champ last season - 3 straight Final 4s and 2 Title Game appearances at Iowa in Camp - Won a title at UCONN and made Final 4 at USC in Rockne - 2 Elite 8s and a Final 4 with FSU in Stagg - Recruit for Louisville in Hayes with multiple Final 4s - Elite 8 and Conference Title Game appearance in Big East Wilkinson (where you are 0-16 and will be 0-32)

Yeah john bc youre 76 years old. If my life was devoted for that long I would be winning titles too. I have my little 1 with North Carolina and I'm proud of it.

I'm not moving goal post, you're trying to kick the field goal with your little blow up goal post built by stats that don't measure up except 2 of them. My losses in the playoffs were by OU, Min and LSU. No slap sticks, like I said its just the beginning. I didnt know Rutgers played 5 elites in there schedule. Same with Washington, Rice, etc.. blow me

BRO YOURE AT CSU AND HAVENT DONT SH*T WITHT THEM. YOURE BOASTING ABOUT ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN WEAKER WORLDS> IN WILKINSON WHERE IS CSU?? Don't worry ill have my moment with you soon.

2 playoff wins in the the almighty wilkinson in 7 seasons with the biggest budget in the game wow you're a first ballot HOF

1831-625

2,450 games with 2 NATIONAL titles.. that's 1,225 games per title. GOOD BOY!

7 active teams, I'm over here working and paying taxes for you to be at home.