Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/16/2023 1:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:33:00 PM (view original):
England is a Monarchy
France is a Republic

Any others?

With all due respect that it is irrelevant to the conversation.

you are way too concerned with that stuff.
it is - I’m the smartest in the room stuff.
And not important to reality.

With all due respect, you tend to avoid the intellectual parts of a conversation.

Not surprising you would key on this tidbit and ignore the post prior.

Agree to disagree.

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:33:00 PM (view original):
England is a Monarchy
France is a Republic

Any others?

isn't he U.S a republic as well?

and as far as the electoral college, I'd worry about the parties putting forth more qualified candidates (if such a thing exist) before I concern myself with the technicalities of how these idiots are elected.

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 3:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:33:00 PM (view original):
England is a Monarchy
France is a Republic

Any others?

isn't he U.S a republic as well?

and as far as the electoral college, I'd worry about the parties putting forth more qualified candidates (if such a thing exist) before I concern myself with the technicalities of how these idiots are elected.

Yes.

I agree with you in principal. But, since we are a nation of laws (as opposed to edicts,) the technicality that is the constitution kinda governs what a "good" candidate is. Candidates that understand the constitution and want to work within it...even if that means amending it...are the only candidates that should get due attention.

Too many candidates these days want to circumvent it, think it is obsolete or otherwise want to rule by ignoring it. The constitution sets forth clear and obvious limitations...limitations on governmental power, that is. That drives some to the brink of insanity. Most who occupy Congress at the current time would fall into this category, political party notwithstanding.

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:48:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/16/2023 1:42:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/16/2023 1:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:33:00 PM (view original):
England is a Monarchy
France is a Republic

Any others?

With all due respect that it is irrelevant to the conversation.

you are way too concerned with that stuff.
it is - I’m the smartest in the room stuff.
And not important to reality.

With all due respect, you tend to avoid the intellectual parts of a conversation.

Not surprising you would key on this tidbit and ignore the post prior.

Agree to disagree.

Then, please comment on the post prior.

You are capable of fantastic conversation when it suits you...regarding music, art, sports, more or less non-political topics.

When it comes to politics, you become a one trick pony that only propagandizes in an echo chamber. It's a shame. Great intellect, which I believe you have, should not be limited.

We are in the middle of something that has not threatened our way of life since the Cuban missle crisis and 9-11. Even republicans in congress were running for their lives on that flashpoint day.

I appreciate the compliment. Art is subjective and everyone brings their experiences and spiritual values and color to it.

Im not into defining governments into republics or monopoly or monarchy etc. We don’t have time for that. It is a big distraction.
When a Canadian like lostin space is highly representative of almost half of the American electorate and the “great” independents are still contemplating their navels I have no time for it.

And I’m certainly not even going anyway near discussions of tyranny unless you are talking about fighting back at Republican politicians who support autocracy here and elsewhere.
I am a very patriotic American with a flag pole and all.

Our system is not tyrannical but it can be destroyed by tyrannical people and that is what I am focused on.

Keep your eye on the ball.

For the most part I am the guy who talks about real things going on / the real specifics of our American civil war.

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 3:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:33:00 PM (view original):
England is a Monarchy
France is a Republic

Any others?

isn't he U.S a republic as well?

and as far as the electoral college, I'd worry about the parties putting forth more qualified candidates (if such a thing exist) before I concern myself with the technicalities of how these idiots are elected.

What you said scares the shiit out of me.
That way of perceiving things is how we got to Jan 6 and why the body politic is clinging to life and will flat line unless more standard republicans become independents and dems and more independents become dems.

Right now there are so many smart really talented dems and we have a president that has kept so many promises and produced such prodigious results.

I know this will make you angry Wylie but I wonder why you are not able to draw a wider line between the 2 parties. If you can’t really see what is right before your eyes either open your eyes And your ears or give in to the architecture of fear.
A lot of independents ignore republicans but belittle dems and insist that they be more then perfect even when it is only / only the dems that will protect their way of life.

people calling themselves independents are usually embarrassed republicans or dopes. Sometimes not of those 2 but most of the time yes.
if course IMO.

If it was not for independents Gore would have beaten Bush and we would have battled climate change back then and not wasted 8 years and of course no Iraq war.
The idiotpendents killed it all.
F Nader and Stein and West and the rest of the communists and narcissists who put themselves ahead of the country and sometimes bring us irreparable harm that never gets fixed.

Yes - like most Democrats I hate communism but we are intelligent enough to understand that communism is not the equal of our capitalist socialism hybrid that is the system of all of the successful democratic countries.
Any hybrid which is one part communist is going to be of autocracy.
Any American politician supporting Russia and Putin and does not want to support Ukraine is a grave danger to our country.

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 4:19:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 3:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:33:00 PM (view original):
England is a Monarchy
France is a Republic

Any others?

isn't he U.S a republic as well?

and as far as the electoral college, I'd worry about the parties putting forth more qualified candidates (if such a thing exist) before I concern myself with the technicalities of how these idiots are elected.

Yes.

I agree with you in principal. But, since we are a nation of laws (as opposed to edicts,) the technicality that is the constitution kinda governs what a "good" candidate is. Candidates that understand the constitution and want to work within it...even if that means amending it...are the only candidates that should get due attention.

Too many candidates these days want to circumvent it, think it is obsolete or otherwise want to rule by ignoring it. The constitution sets forth clear and obvious limitations...limitations on governmental power, that is. That drives some to the brink of insanity. Most who occupy Congress at the current time would fall into this category, political party notwithstanding.

too many candidates these days want to circumvent the constitution is right

they are called textualists and originalists

they fail to regard the constitution as a living document




they pare back the green so severely all they see is the bulb

the whole point of amendments is to CHANGE the constitution

every successive amendment grows a new constituion

you don't peel the layers off to get to the true onion

you respect the last change most

you eat the whole onion

Posted by bagchucker3 on 7/16/2023 8:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 4:19:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 3:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:33:00 PM (view original):
England is a Monarchy
France is a Republic

Any others?

isn't he U.S a republic as well?

and as far as the electoral college, I'd worry about the parties putting forth more qualified candidates (if such a thing exist) before I concern myself with the technicalities of how these idiots are elected.

Yes.

I agree with you in principal. But, since we are a nation of laws (as opposed to edicts,) the technicality that is the constitution kinda governs what a "good" candidate is. Candidates that understand the constitution and want to work within it...even if that means amending it...are the only candidates that should get due attention.

Too many candidates these days want to circumvent it, think it is obsolete or otherwise want to rule by ignoring it. The constitution sets forth clear and obvious limitations...limitations on governmental power, that is. That drives some to the brink of insanity. Most who occupy Congress at the current time would fall into this category, political party notwithstanding.

too many candidates these days want to circumvent the constitution is right

they are called textualists and originalists

they fail to regard the constitution as a living document




they pare back the green so severely all they see is the bulb

the whole point of amendments is to CHANGE the constitution

every successive amendment grows a new constituion

you don't peel the layers off to get to the true onion

you respect the last change most

you eat the whole onion

People that want to circumvent the constitution have hidden under umbrellas given to them to trick people into thinking they are of an elite stripe of scholarship.

When autocrats speak listen up and take them seriously. They are laser focused and no amount of criticism will deter them from their course.

Weak lame brains think that such politicians are strong and worthy of being glorified especially as demagogues while such judges are the true god like protectors of mosaic law brought into American constitutional law to guide the non believers.

We are not in the age of Aquarius.
Bruce Springsteen is a Bo Diddly guy.

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/16/2023 8:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 3:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:33:00 PM (view original):
England is a Monarchy
France is a Republic

Any others?

isn't he U.S a republic as well?

and as far as the electoral college, I'd worry about the parties putting forth more qualified candidates (if such a thing exist) before I concern myself with the technicalities of how these idiots are elected.

What you said scares the shiit out of me.
That way of perceiving things is how we got to Jan 6 and why the body politic is clinging to life and will flat line unless more standard republicans become independents and dems and more independents become dems.

Right now there are so many smart really talented dems and we have a president that has kept so many promises and produced such prodigious results.

I know this will make you angry Wylie but I wonder why you are not able to draw a wider line between the 2 parties. If you can’t really see what is right before your eyes either open your eyes And your ears or give in to the architecture of fear.
A lot of independents ignore republicans but belittle dems and insist that they be more then perfect even when it is only / only the dems that will protect their way of life.

people calling themselves independents are usually embarrassed republicans or dopes. Sometimes not of those 2 but most of the time yes.
if course IMO.

you know what? I don't really care if my opinion scares the **** out of you. It scares me that you are unable to see that while most democrats are better than most republicans, that's not a very high bar to get over. Yes, there are some dems who are decent. I'm sure there are 1 or 2 republicans who are decent, you just never hear about them. I get you don't agree with me, and that's fine. I don't agree with everything you post either.
And why would it make me angry? I know how you feel about this. We happen to disagree. People disagreeing with my opinions does not make me angry. People with totally closed minds and who can't think for themselves (I'm looking at you, lnf) make me angry.

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 10:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/16/2023 8:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 3:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:33:00 PM (view original):
England is a Monarchy
France is a Republic

Any others?

isn't he U.S a republic as well?

and as far as the electoral college, I'd worry about the parties putting forth more qualified candidates (if such a thing exist) before I concern myself with the technicalities of how these idiots are elected.

What you said scares the shiit out of me.
That way of perceiving things is how we got to Jan 6 and why the body politic is clinging to life and will flat line unless more standard republicans become independents and dems and more independents become dems.

Right now there are so many smart really talented dems and we have a president that has kept so many promises and produced such prodigious results.

I know this will make you angry Wylie but I wonder why you are not able to draw a wider line between the 2 parties. If you can’t really see what is right before your eyes either open your eyes And your ears or give in to the architecture of fear.
A lot of independents ignore republicans but belittle dems and insist that they be more then perfect even when it is only / only the dems that will protect their way of life.

people calling themselves independents are usually embarrassed republicans or dopes. Sometimes not of those 2 but most of the time yes.
if course IMO.

you know what? I don't really care if my opinion scares the **** out of you. It scares me that you are unable to see that while most democrats are better than most republicans, that's not a very high bar to get over. Yes, there are some dems who are decent. I'm sure there are 1 or 2 republicans who are decent, you just never hear about them. I get you don't agree with me, and that's fine. I don't agree with everything you post either.
And why would it make me angry? I know how you feel about this. We happen to disagree. People disagreeing with my opinions does not make me angry. People with totally closed minds and who can't think for themselves (I'm looking at you, lnf) make me angry.

What you don’t agree with me on is that :

1. Way most dems are way most better then the safest Republican. I would say every fed dem I would have to think hard about 2. You describe the tipping of the scale by an extra pebble. You could not be more wrong.

2. The democrats have a platform ( which you always leave out ) that they ascribe to and legislate to live up to and that agenda is unbelievably modern and productive and helps the country thrive. You ignore it
as if it is non existent and or not tethered to each democrat.

3. Republicans also follow their doomsday let’s go to hell and back agenda which you also ignore and leave out of your comparison.

4. I forgot 4 but I’ll let you know when I remember.

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/16/2023 10:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bagchucker3 on 7/16/2023 8:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 4:19:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 3:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:33:00 PM (view original):
England is a Monarchy
France is a Republic

Any others?

isn't he U.S a republic as well?

and as far as the electoral college, I'd worry about the parties putting forth more qualified candidates (if such a thing exist) before I concern myself with the technicalities of how these idiots are elected.

Yes.

I agree with you in principal. But, since we are a nation of laws (as opposed to edicts,) the technicality that is the constitution kinda governs what a "good" candidate is. Candidates that understand the constitution and want to work within it...even if that means amending it...are the only candidates that should get due attention.

Too many candidates these days want to circumvent it, think it is obsolete or otherwise want to rule by ignoring it. The constitution sets forth clear and obvious limitations...limitations on governmental power, that is. That drives some to the brink of insanity. Most who occupy Congress at the current time would fall into this category, political party notwithstanding.

too many candidates these days want to circumvent the constitution is right

they are called textualists and originalists

they fail to regard the constitution as a living document




they pare back the green so severely all they see is the bulb

the whole point of amendments is to CHANGE the constitution

every successive amendment grows a new constituion

you don't peel the layers off to get to the true onion

you respect the last change most

you eat the whole onion

People that want to circumvent the constitution have hidden under umbrellas given to them to trick people into thinking they are of an elite stripe of scholarship.

When autocrats speak listen up and take them seriously. They are laser focused and no amount of criticism will deter them from their course.

Weak lame brains think that such politicians are strong and worthy of being glorified especially as demagogues while such judges are the true god like protectors of mosaic law brought into American constitutional law to guide the non believers.

We are not in the age of Aquarius.
Bruce Springsteen is a Bo Diddly guy.

This is good stuff, Lenny. One of the best posts of the day.

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/17/2023 2:11:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/16/2023 10:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bagchucker3 on 7/16/2023 8:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 4:19:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 7/16/2023 3:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/16/2023 1:33:00 PM (view original):
England is a Monarchy
France is a Republic

Any others?

isn't he U.S a republic as well?

and as far as the electoral college, I'd worry about the parties putting forth more qualified candidates (if such a thing exist) before I concern myself with the technicalities of how these idiots are elected.

Yes.

I agree with you in principal. But, since we are a nation of laws (as opposed to edicts,) the technicality that is the constitution kinda governs what a "good" candidate is. Candidates that understand the constitution and want to work within it...even if that means amending it...are the only candidates that should get due attention.

Too many candidates these days want to circumvent it, think it is obsolete or otherwise want to rule by ignoring it. The constitution sets forth clear and obvious limitations...limitations on governmental power, that is. That drives some to the brink of insanity. Most who occupy Congress at the current time would fall into this category, political party notwithstanding.

too many candidates these days want to circumvent the constitution is right

they are called textualists and originalists

they fail to regard the constitution as a living document




they pare back the green so severely all they see is the bulb

the whole point of amendments is to CHANGE the constitution

every successive amendment grows a new constituion

you don't peel the layers off to get to the true onion

you respect the last change most

you eat the whole onion

People that want to circumvent the constitution have hidden under umbrellas given to them to trick people into thinking they are of an elite stripe of scholarship.

When autocrats speak listen up and take them seriously. They are laser focused and no amount of criticism will deter them from their course.

Weak lame brains think that such politicians are strong and worthy of being glorified especially as demagogues while such judges are the true god like protectors of mosaic law brought into American constitutional law to guide the non believers.

We are not in the age of Aquarius.
Bruce Springsteen is a Bo Diddly guy.

This is good stuff, Lenny. One of the best posts of the day.

Thank you, Jay. I really appreciate that very much.

DeSantis campaign which is said to be hemorrhaging money with a negative rate of return just fired 12 main staffers.
One might expect at least a few providing some tasty morsels to the press.

If you can’t stand the heat get off of the world.
If it isn’t happening then what is. As Chump might say,
no one has ever seen anything like this before.

Big pre trial hearing tomorrow in Trump Florida Docs case. Big Bang.

The people attending Trump rallies are not cheering as loud and many sit on their hands.


If Zuckerberg fights Musk I want to see a sumo match between Trump and Christie.

DeSantis campaign which is said to be hemorrhaging money with a negative rate of return just fired 12 main staffers.
One might expect at least a few providing some tasty morsels to the press.

If you can’t stand the heat get off of the world.
If it isn’t happening then what is. As Chump might say,
no one has ever seen anything like this before.

Big pre trial hearing tomorrow in Trump Florida Docs case. Big Bang.

The people attending Trump rallies are not cheering as loud and many sit on their hands.


If Zuckerberg fights Musk I want to see a sumo match between Trump and Christie.

If Christie debates Trump there will be vicious and malicious cuts back and forth. Christie will be all legalistic and such while Trump would be first grader nasty.