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Posted by laramiebob on 7/12/2023 2:11:00 PM (view original):
Hardly. Just a cranky writer and a lover of the wild places.
Whatever you read is an opinion and VERY misinformed.
I don't mind standing corrected. I can get behind anarchy and I don't mind environmentalism to a point.

Violence is a different matter and this gem from Wikipedia.

In an essay called "Immigration and Liberal Taboos", collected in his 1988 book One Life at a Time, Please, Abbey expressed his opposition to immigration ("legal or illegal, from any source") into the United States: "(I)t occurs to some of us that perhaps ever-continuing industrial and population growth is not the true road to human happiness, that simple gross quantitative increase of this kind creates only more pain, dislocation, confusion and misery. In which case it might be wise for us as American citizens to consider calling a halt to the mass influx of even more millions of hungry, ignorant, unskilled, and culturally-morally-genetically impoverished people. At least until we have brought our own affairs into order. Especially when these uninvited millions bring with them an alien mode of life which—let us be honest about this—is not appealing to the majority of Americans. Why not? Because we prefer democratic government, for one thing; because we still hope for an open, spacious, uncrowded, and beautiful—yes, beautiful!—society, for another. The alternative, in the squalor, cruelty, and corruption of Latin America, is plain for all to see."

If that is not racist and White Supremacist, I'd love your definition.
7/12/2023 2:25 PM
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Well it is racist, but one must "understand" Abbey, his perceived "voice" and also realize he was far from perfect. Your quote is one He is quite famous for. Negatively of course. An easier target is his lifelong rants about over-population of the globe while marrying five times and fathering (more than) a few children.

But what did you want him to do? Stop loving? Stop living? If so, you vastly misunderstand most men...........of any color.
Abbey didn't really hate Mexicans, or brown people..........certainly Not on an individual level. He visited there for recreation and exploration rather often.
He was TRYING to make a statement about culture, politics, (lack of) personal freedom, and yes squalor. At least that's my take on it but far far more accomplished folks (and even friends of Ed's) than I have tried to defend that statement. Guys like Luis Albert Urias and Charles Bowden.........well NOT the statement but the MAN. Because he wrote/stated many things. Some offensive, some grand. Some prophetic, and some inspirational. It's what great writers are SUPPOSED to do. The statement is what it is. Offensive to many. Ed knew that but never took it back. Only he knows why as He's gone.

But he left behind a treasure. And a host of writers who credit HIS work for their inspiration and his voice as one of the primary voices in defense of the southwest wild lands. It took guts to declare a politician like Carl Hayden (who delivered a HUGE chunk of pork to his home state!) was actually the guy ruining Arizona..........but from many aspects that was very true. Abbey watched Tucson go from (maybe) 80,000, literally living amongst the desert whilst it was turned into subdivision after subdivision........it was no wonder he hated growth. And now?? We have so many folks living here counting on water that doesn't exist long-term no one, I mean NO ONE knows what to do or what will happen.

Which gets me to his (perhaps) most famous line..........and my favorite.

"Growth for growth's sake is the idealogy of the Cancer cell"

Kinda hard to argue with that..............and BTW......I AGREE with his Immigration position.
We have enough folks. Send that damn statue back to France!
7/12/2023 2:51 PM
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"...culturally-morally-genetically impoverished people..." Genetically impoverished?

Yeah, I understand. I read Mein Kampf a long time ago.
7/12/2023 3:22 PM
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FWIW.........I never read Mein Kampf. Never felt it was worth my time.....
7/12/2023 4:07 PM
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It wasn't an easy read. It was an assignment in a college class back in the late 80s. I've also read The Communist Manifesto, The State and Revolution (Lenin) and The Permanent Revolution: Results and Prospects (Trotsky.) Those were by choice.

You can learn a lot by reading the works of hate...helps identify those "qualities" when you see the same terms used in another author's works.

7/12/2023 5:13 PM
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Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/12/2023 5:13:00 PM (view original):
It wasn't an easy read. It was an assignment in a college class back in the late 80s. I've also read The Communist Manifesto, The State and Revolution (Lenin) and The Permanent Revolution: Results and Prospects (Trotsky.) Those were by choice.

You can learn a lot by reading the works of hate...helps identify those "qualities" when you see the same terms used in another author's works.

The second paragraph is a wonderful point - and I would add politicians or other aspiring societal leaders.
Great point!
7/12/2023 6:08 PM
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Attention All Foxers

i hope foxers can get added to the lexicon.

So far this year - 800 million paid to victims.
New defamation lawsuit - Mr and Mrs Ray Epps trumpers.
Unspecified damages for lies leading to death threats they had to move out of state and go into hiding.

A slam scam scum dunk that I think will cost Fox 50 million. Or more!!
the more the merrier.
:)
7/12/2023 6:31 PM (edited)
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Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/12/2023 6:31:00 PM (view original):
Attention All Foxers

i hope foxers can get added to the lexicon.

So far this year - 800 million paid to victims.
New defamation lawsuit - Mr and Mrs Ray Epps trumpers.
Unspecified damages for lies leading to death threats they had to move out of state and go into hiding.

A slam scam scum dunk that I think will cost Fox 50 million. Or more!!
the more the merrier.
:)
Maybe some unfortunate people who believe in the honesty and integrity of Fox and did not die from covid because of those lies / will turn away from their lies about the climate coming catastrophe; after what is being proven thru court cases.

Why do people watch that shiit?
7/12/2023 6:50 PM
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ol joe

damn fine president today



lets get out the silver and welcome finland and sweden

put on the butler's rub

roll out the barrel



eff trump eff putin eff the isolations

we won WWII for a reason



keep it comin joe

expand democracy

stick the shiv in the autocrat

stick him in the eye
7/13/2023 11:19 AM
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Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/12/2023 6:51:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/12/2023 6:31:00 PM (view original):
Attention All Foxers

i hope foxers can get added to the lexicon.

So far this year - 800 million paid to victims.
New defamation lawsuit - Mr and Mrs Ray Epps trumpers.
Unspecified damages for lies leading to death threats they had to move out of state and go into hiding.

A slam scam scum dunk that I think will cost Fox 50 million. Or more!!
the more the merrier.
:)
Maybe some unfortunate people who believe in the honesty and integrity of Fox and did not die from covid because of those lies / will turn away from their lies about the climate coming catastrophe; after what is being proven thru court cases.

Why do people watch that shiit?
Fox has moved to the left. Quite a lot. Tucker Carlson. Fired. and he was liked by a lotta lotta people
7/17/2023 4:39 AM (edited)
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Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/16/2023 8:17:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/12/2023 6:51:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/12/2023 6:31:00 PM (view original):
Attention All Foxers

i hope foxers can get added to the lexicon.

So far this year - 800 million paid to victims.
New defamation lawsuit - Mr and Mrs Ray Epps trumpers.
Unspecified damages for lies leading to death threats they had to move out of state and go into hiding.

A slam scam scum dunk that I think will cost Fox 50 million. Or more!!
the more the merrier.
:)
Maybe some unfortunate people who believe in the honesty and integrity of Fox and did not die from covid because of those lies / will turn away from their lies about the climate coming catastrophe; after what is being proven thru court cases.

Why do people watch that shiit?
In 2006 your buddy Al Gore said we wouldn't last another ten years. YEP, right. we are 7 years overdue to burn up.and you guys call TRUMP a ;liar. He iks the best Pres you have had in fifty years. There IS no climate crisis. Yet although the man is so full of it, his eyes are brown, yet his followers still exalt him.

The is no conspiracy theory, it is a real conspiracy, and I would be happy to name some of the players. besides Gore. Klaus Schwab, George Soros, W.H.O., Pfizer, John Kerry, and the most of the left. what is amusing is how you instantly believe everything these guys tell you. You need to think for yourself instead of letting others do it for you

Cheers
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7/16/2023 11:01 AM
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Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/16/2023 8:19:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/12/2023 6:51:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/12/2023 6:31:00 PM (view original):
Attention All Foxers

i hope foxers can get added to the lexicon.

So far this year - 800 million paid to victims.
New defamation lawsuit - Mr and Mrs Ray Epps trumpers.
Unspecified damages for lies leading to death threats they had to move out of state and go into hiding.

A slam scam scum dunk that I think will cost Fox 50 million. Or more!!
the more the merrier.
:)
Maybe some unfortunate people who believe in the honesty and integrity of Fox and did not die from covid because of those lies / will turn away from their lies about the climate coming catastrophe; after what is being proven thru court cases.

Why do people watch that shiit?
Fox has move to the left. Quite a lot. Tucker Carlson. Fired. and he was liked by a lotta lotta people
What has Fox done that means they have moved to the left?
They May have moved into court rooms but explain how they have moved to the left.

One of the reasons that The Mother Tucker was fired is that he created a hostile work environment for fellow losers.
7/16/2023 11:06 AM
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Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/16/2023 11:01:00 AM (view original):
Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/16/2023 8:17:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/12/2023 6:51:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/12/2023 6:31:00 PM (view original):
Attention All Foxers

i hope foxers can get added to the lexicon.

So far this year - 800 million paid to victims.
New defamation lawsuit - Mr and Mrs Ray Epps trumpers.
Unspecified damages for lies leading to death threats they had to move out of state and go into hiding.

A slam scam scum dunk that I think will cost Fox 50 million. Or more!!
the more the merrier.
:)
Maybe some unfortunate people who believe in the honesty and integrity of Fox and did not die from covid because of those lies / will turn away from their lies about the climate coming catastrophe; after what is being proven thru court cases.

Why do people watch that shiit?
In 2006 your buddy Al Gore said we wouldn't last another ten years. YEP, right. we are 7 years overdue to burn up.and you guys call TRUMP a ;liar. He iks the best Pres you have had in fifty years. There IS no climate crisis. Yet although the man is so full of it, his eyes are brown, yet his followers still exalt him.

The is no conspiracy theory, it is a real conspiracy, and I would be happy to name some of the players. besides Gore. Klaus Schwab, George Soros, W.H.O., Pfizer, John Kerry, and the most of the left. what is amusing is how you instantly believe everything these guys tell you. You need to think for yourself instead of letting others do it for you

Cheers
Ladies and Gentleman, let me introduce Mr.
Gibberish. The man also known as The Unintended Comedian.
Everything i said is true, and you know it
7/17/2023 4:40 AM
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EVERYTHING you say is a christian taliban fantasy. You’re full of NOTHING but fear, lies and stupidity.
7/17/2023 6:39 AM
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