TRUMP: Best President ever Topic

I hate to do it but I have to say I agree with all3 here. If everyone pays a flat rate of say 15% of their household income, with no available loopholes or deductions, how is that unfair? If my household makes $75,000 a year we would pay $11,250 in taxes. If your household makes $750,000 a year, you would pay $112,500 . What is unfair about that?
10/2/2020 5:34 PM
I actually wouldn't necessarily classify that system as unfair. I would say it's inefficient. And I would argue that a non-flat income tax is just as fair.
10/2/2020 7:12 PM
The answer is the US Gov't has used the Income Tax Code to "influence" behavior (again) for (like) forever.
They institute deductions to encourage MONEY to go into those specific investment types.
For decades (for example) it was home ownership.

And, there isn't enough tax revenue available without taxing the rich at higher levels IF you want to except the poorest from taxes, which is current policy.
10/2/2020 7:30 PM
Why should the poorest be exempt from paying their fair share? Do they not get the benefits of living in this Country?
10/2/2020 7:44 PM
Posted by all3 on 10/2/2020 7:44:00 PM (view original):
Why should the poorest be exempt from paying their fair share? Do they not get the benefits of living in this Country?
This is a Republican and the modern religious philosophy.
10/2/2020 7:56 PM
Posted by dino27 on 10/2/2020 4:32:00 PM (view original):
Posted by all3 on 10/2/2020 3:58:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bagchucker on 10/2/2020 12:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 9/28/2020 10:27:00 AM (view original):
I want a President who will force the rich to pay their fair share.
nope

i like a progressive tax

i like robin hood

if rich real estate dudes pay $750 its proof the tax code is ignorant
This is where the problem is - determining "fair share".
If I pay 25 or 30%, why should someone else's "fair share" be 45 or 50%? That doesn't seem "fair at all.
Same rate for everyone is "fair". Eliminate ALL loopholes.
Dumb.
flat earth

this country figured out progressive is fair eons ago.
with a flat tax and no deductions you either literally kill the poor by taxing them into oblivion or you have no tax for anyone and get same result kill the poor.
and the country.

noah and the ark.
The above. If there is no tax revenue where does The money that helps middle and lower income come from. No where.
And 15% of 100 grand is a lot more for that person then 15 million from 100 million.

you can’t have a civilized society with a flat tax.

just think about raising the money for needed programs.
h
our system works.
10/2/2020 8:01 PM
Posted by all3 on 10/2/2020 7:44:00 PM (view original):
Why should the poorest be exempt from paying their fair share? Do they not get the benefits of living in this Country?
with a flat tax they would pay, but then with welfare etc they would get it back and then some

why not cut out the middleman for efficiency

the biggest thing is the rich shunt income into nontaxable streams

why a CEO apologizes for a bad year by promising to work for a dollar next year
10/2/2020 8:03 PM
Posted by all3 on 10/2/2020 7:44:00 PM (view original):
Why should the poorest be exempt from paying their fair share? Do they not get the benefits of living in this Country?
What was it that Jesus said about the dogs getting the scraps from the table.
that was the gospel where Jesus was a trumper.
10/2/2020 8:04 PM
Posted by dino27 on 10/2/2020 7:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by all3 on 10/2/2020 7:44:00 PM (view original):
Why should the poorest be exempt from paying their fair share? Do they not get the benefits of living in this Country?
This is a Republican and the modern religious philosophy.
Much better than a marxist aetheist philosophy.
10/3/2020 6:11 AM
Posted by lostnfound74 on 10/3/2020 6:11:00 AM (view original):
Posted by dino27 on 10/2/2020 7:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by all3 on 10/2/2020 7:44:00 PM (view original):
Why should the poorest be exempt from paying their fair share? Do they not get the benefits of living in this Country?
This is a Republican and the modern religious philosophy.
Much better than a marxist aetheist philosophy.
Aetheist
10/3/2020 8:59 AM
Much better for those poor folks to pray for someone to intercede and feed 'em "multiplied" fish and "miracalized" loaves of bread!
They'll do that for awhile but finally their faith gives out and they RAID the neighbors compound for food!
History!
10/3/2020 9:51 AM
That's right, I forgot society "makes" people rob and loot. Sorry, I forgot nobody is held responsible for their hate-filled actions any longer - well, at least nobody who isn't a confirmed Republican.

(added) bob, I thought you used to be for personal responsibility and incentivising people to work harder. Happy with what the mob mentality has you now believing?
10/3/2020 10:36 AM (edited)
Posted by lostnfound74 on 10/3/2020 6:11:00 AM (view original):
Posted by dino27 on 10/2/2020 7:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by all3 on 10/2/2020 7:44:00 PM (view original):
Why should the poorest be exempt from paying their fair share? Do they not get the benefits of living in this Country?
This is a Republican and the modern religious philosophy.
Much better than a marxist aetheist philosophy.
Do me a favor. Define "marxist." Like, what makes someone a marxist to you?

This should be real funny.
10/3/2020 10:56 AM
Posted by Uofa2 on 10/3/2020 8:59:00 AM (view original):
Posted by lostnfound74 on 10/3/2020 6:11:00 AM (view original):
Posted by dino27 on 10/2/2020 7:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by all3 on 10/2/2020 7:44:00 PM (view original):
Why should the poorest be exempt from paying their fair share? Do they not get the benefits of living in this Country?
This is a Republican and the modern religious philosophy.
Much better than a marxist aetheist philosophy.
Aetheist
Cristean
10/3/2020 10:56 AM
Posted by all3 on 10/3/2020 10:36:00 AM (view original):
That's right, I forgot society "makes" people rob and loot. Sorry, I forgot nobody is held responsible for their hate-filled actions any longer - well, at least nobody who isn't a confirmed Republican.

(added) bob, I thought you used to be for personal responsibility and incentivising people to work harder. Happy with what the mob mentality has you now believing?
Society doesn't *make* someone rob and loot, however it can contribute to that decision. Your paradigm of "personal responsibility means I'll duck my head in the sand at any broad analysis of a situation" is ******* ridiculous.
10/3/2020 10:58 AM
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