Yeah this concept is great. I didn’t really understand it when I signed up but it makes complete sense now.

People need to quit taking "my" players, just a few spots before me. I sit and watch players stay on the board for 35 picks (I have 40 between my picks), then they all get drafted by the 4-5 owners directly before me. UGH!! Oh yeah, I still absolutely love the format and greatly appreciate everything cmcafeeky is doing. It's helping me keep the 1% of my sanity I still have while being cooped-up.

Posted by all3 on 4/16/2020 9:17:00 AM (view original):
People need to quit taking "my" players, just a few spots before me. I sit and watch players stay on the board for 35 picks (I have 40 between my picks), then they all get drafted by the 4-5 owners directly before me. UGH!! Oh yeah, I still absolutely love the format and greatly appreciate everything cmcafeeky is doing. It's helping me keep the 1% of my sanity I still have while being cooped-up.

I have two teams and I’ve been lucky to only have this happen a few times. (Dwade, KG, and Detlef) hope it doesn’t happen here.

Posted by jhsukow on 4/16/2020 9:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 4/16/2020 9:17:00 AM (view original):
People need to quit taking "my" players, just a few spots before me. I sit and watch players stay on the board for 35 picks (I have 40 between my picks), then they all get drafted by the 4-5 owners directly before me. UGH!! Oh yeah, I still absolutely love the format and greatly appreciate everything cmcafeeky is doing. It's helping me keep the 1% of my sanity I still have while being cooped-up.

I have two teams and I’ve been lucky to only have this happen a few times. (Dwade, KG, and Detlef) hope it doesn’t happen here.

Cut to LITERALLY 3 minutes later.

Posted by all3 on 4/16/2020 9:17:00 AM (view original):
People need to quit taking "my" players, just a few spots before me. I sit and watch players stay on the board for 35 picks (I have 40 between my picks), then they all get drafted by the 4-5 owners directly before me. UGH!! Oh yeah, I still absolutely love the format and greatly appreciate everything cmcafeeky is doing. It's helping me keep the 1% of my sanity I still have while being cooped-up.

That's why for the most part I don't even look until a few spots ahead of me. Now if I see someone I think might slip I'll save them in a team center, but for the most part I am just doing this on the fly (and it probably shows). My team isn't going to be really good at anything, but they shouldn't be awful at anything either. The joys of picking late in an initial draft. Now I need some luck in getting an equally good draft position next time around.

Posted by all3 on 4/16/2020 9:17:00 AM (view original):
People need to quit taking "my" players, just a few spots before me. I sit and watch players stay on the board for 35 picks (I have 40 between my picks), then they all get drafted by the 4-5 owners directly before me. UGH!! Oh yeah, I still absolutely love the format and greatly appreciate everything cmcafeeky is doing. It's helping me keep the 1% of my sanity I still have while being cooped-up.

and you snag MY Willie Wise

McMillan/Payton
Pippen/??
Ryan Anderson/Marion
Kemp/Noah
Hakeem/??

Starting 5 ORB: 44.8%, DRB: 93.3%
DEF ratings: 62, 81, 54, 72, 100
Two good passers in the starting 5 and a weighted eFG% of 52%
Gary Payton/Shawn Marion/Joakim Noah leading the bench.

Let’s go!

Sorry for the two hour delay there. I blame the war criminals: slash, dkbc, and seapilots. I feel good about Goran, but he was a drop from those other three for my plan.

I have no idea how this season will go, but I’m doomed next year. One big so far, and while Kevin Willis has a good 91-92, don’t think that’ll cut it with a broken Rose and the last years of Bird and Kidd.

Uofa2 - Im sure youll be fine - ...

Player	Postion	MPG	Usage%	eFG%	OReb%	DReb%	Ast%	Tov%	Def
Magic Johnson	PG/SF	36	22.9	51.8	4.0	15.4	39.9	20.4	47
Joe Dumars	SG	37	24.0	48.7	2.2	4.4	17.9	11.4	80
Kobe Bryant	SF	34	35.2	48.7	3.3	12.4	17.7	11.4	90
Wes Unseld	PF	35	14.7	51.0	10.9	26.6	10.8	15.6	52
Marc Gasol	C	32	16.9	52.9	6.6	18.1	9.6	15.1	56
Rod Strickland	PG/SG	25	18.1	49.1	3.0	7.7	26.0	17.3	61
John Salley	C/PF	20	15.4	47.5	8.9	12.4	5.0	15.7	95
Carmelo Anthony	SF	12	31.1	51.0	4.5	15.6	10.4	9.4	38
Michael Cage	PF	7	11.3	50.8	9.1	20.5	4.8	14.4	39
Steve Novak	PF	2	16.1	71.6	2.1	11.9	1.8	5.4	44

My last pick is just fluff, these are my guys getting playing time. Eh, could be worse, efficiency isn't great BUT this is a progressive you take who you can get. If I can draft a decent PG next year I will feel pretty good about that as well.

Drafting at the end of rd 1, I didn't even bother to focus on the first season as I don't think you can win without a superstar without more luck than I want to count on, so I focused my picks on years 2 and 3. Year 4 with just 3 players is too far out to build around. That's not to say that I punted year 1 (or year 4)...I did what I could with the seniors to make sure that I could cover the minutes with eligible players, but when looking at the rest of the team, I didn't even consider their year 1 stats when making drafting decisions.

If I get fortunate enough to get a top 8 pick in one of the next 2 drafts, I think my strategy will pay off. If I don't, I'm probably going to strongly push for a change to the draft format. There's a reason poker is my game of choice in the casino...you have more control over your outcomes there than (probably) any other game. I don't want to rely so heavily on luck. At some point we may as well not even draft teams and flip coins to see who wins...saves us $12.

In that we're adding 36 Seniors who graduate after this season to next season's draft, and 72 Seniors and graduated Seniors who had to sit-out a year before going pro again, to each ensuing draft, I think people are vastly underrating the depths of this League's drafts.

$12? My teams are still $9.95 each, with six-packs $47.95. Am I getting a long-term customer and/or old-age discount?

Same mine are only 9.95

Posted by all3 on 4/22/2020 11:23:00 AM (view original):
In that we're adding 36 Seniors who graduate after this season to next season's draft, and 72 Seniors and graduated Seniors who had to sit-out a year before going pro again, to each ensuing draft, I think people are vastly underrating the depths of this League's drafts.

$12? My teams are still $9.95 each, with six-packs $47.95. Am I getting a long-term customer and/or old-age discount?

You're getting the "the exact number doesn't change the point" discount.

Depth doesn't change the fact that superstars are the most likely way to a title. If you're consistently picking late due to nothing other than bad luck and trades can't be made you're not going to win. Michael Jordan or Derek Harper...that was the 4th pick and 4th to last picks of rd 1 with unlimited numbers of depth available. Which one is going to win? Yes, if you get far enough down the draft and the 4th to last team drafts the perfect team (somehow) they might beat whatever you build around Michael Jordan. Maybe. Even getting the best juniors isn't really an advantage because the difference between Jordan/Harper is much less than Jerry Lucas/Steph Curry. You could make an argument that Curry is better than Lucas if you wanted to. Can't make that argument for Jordan and Harper.

The rules are what the rules are and that's fine. I'm not saying to change them (yet). But someone is going to get luck and someone else unlucky - and not moving from first to 4th in the lottery unlucky...having last half of the draft picks 3 seasons in a row - and it's going to be a problem. Let's see what happens...maybe I'm wrong, but that's not usually the end result. The teams that win are going to be the teams that get lucky in the draft. The draft is the wrong place to insert randomness - especially if the best teams can get the #1 pick.

Want to insert randomness? I played a sim baseball league that did this. I'd have to go back to look at the rules to see when and how the rolls happened, but basically a dice roll was used to determine what season you got of your player. If the base season was 90 (for example), the season used would depend on a dice roll and every player was rolled individually. So player A could be 90, Player B could be 88, and player C could be 92. Odds were weighted towards the current season, but it was possible to be up to 2 seasons in either direction. THAT'S the kind of randomness I could get behind. Obviously you'd have to have someone doing the dice rolls and I don't remember how they did them, but good luck building a dynasty that way.