Good, bad, deadly?

Personally, I think he's focusing too much on businesses and the stock market, and not enough on people and public health. The administration waited FAR too long to push for free or affordable testing (perhaps deliberately), and people in poverty need more than a payroll tax cut to get by.

TLDR, he's costing lives and livelihoods. We need competency, at minimum, back in the White House.

he's not a people person

he's a boss person



but he did get the people out of afghanistan

There are still 3-4000 troops there and the Taliban will get 1500 beauties released

I understand the push for "free" testing, but let's remember that testing will never be "free" for anyone. Somebody is going to need to foot the bill. Should that be the Federal Government? Maybe so, but just reminding that whatever BILL our Government passes, nobody is getting anything for "free" (no matter how much Nancy and Bernie keep saying it is).

We just bailed out wall street for 1.5 trillion dollars. Was that "free"?

Trump gave farmers billions in welfare because of his trade war of choice

Was that free?

Posted by bronxcheer on 3/13/2020 11:16:00 AM (view original):
Trump gave farmers billions in welfare because of his trade war of choice

Was that free?

Come on man, I know you're not this stupid. Quit embarrassing yourself trying to be argumentative. Anytime the Federal Government gives anyone anything, you, me, and every other tax-paying American is paying for it.

Yeah, well I'd rather them give it to Americans than play international politics and "war games", and attempting to militarize the heavens, and giving it to so-called friendly despots and kings and ****!

With the money that went to bail out wall street, Trump could have eliminated student debt, or established a limited UBI, or do any other scattershot of programs that would have actually helped people.

Posted by DougOut on 3/13/2020 12:26:00 PM (view original):

From April 12, 2009, to April 10, 2010, in the United States, there were 60.8 million cases of swine flu, as well as 274,304 hospitalizations and 12,469 deaths, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated.

Obama’s acting director of health and human services declaredH1N1 a public health emergency on April 26, 2009. That was when the United States had only 20 confirmed cases of H1N1 and no deaths.

Two days later, the administration made an initial funding requestfor H1N1 to Congress. Eventually $7.65 billion was allocated for a vaccine and other measures.

On Oct. 24, 2009, six months after his administration declared H1N1 a public health emergency, Obama declared it a national emergency.

By then, H1N1 had claimed more than 1,000 American lives, according to the CDC.

When Obama made his declaration, thousands of people were lining up in cities across the country to receive vaccinations, as federal officials acknowledged that their vaccination program had gotten off to a slow start, with some states having requested 10 times the amount they had been allotted, the New York Times reported at the time.

TOTAL # of deaths reached over 18,000 in the USA. NOT GOOD. Let's hope we do a better job this time.

Obama actually did a good job with H1N1. And either way, he is irrelevant to this discussion about Trump.

Posted by DougOut on 3/13/2020 2:53:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 3/13/2020 1:26:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 3/13/2020 12:26:00 PM (view original):

From April 12, 2009, to April 10, 2010, in the United States, there were 60.8 million cases of swine flu, as well as 274,304 hospitalizations and 12,469 deaths, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated.

Obama’s acting director of health and human services declaredH1N1 a public health emergency on April 26, 2009. That was when the United States had only 20 confirmed cases of H1N1 and no deaths.

Two days later, the administration made an initial funding requestfor H1N1 to Congress. Eventually $7.65 billion was allocated for a vaccine and other measures.

On Oct. 24, 2009, six months after his administration declared H1N1 a public health emergency, Obama declared it a national emergency.

By then, H1N1 had claimed more than 1,000 American lives, according to the CDC.

When Obama made his declaration, thousands of people were lining up in cities across the country to receive vaccinations, as federal officials acknowledged that their vaccination program had gotten off to a slow start, with some states having requested 10 times the amount they had been allotted, the New York Times reported at the time.

TOTAL # of deaths reached over 18,000 in the USA. NOT GOOD. Let's hope we do a better job this time.

Obama actually did a good job with H1N1. And either way, he is irrelevant to this discussion about Trump.

I didn't say he did or didn't. And what is the discussion about Trump?

You people need a wake up and I'm here to give it to ya. 18,036.

We don't know how many are infected in the US, because Trump has not pushed for further testing.

Dense Pence knows how to *** kiss Diaper Donny!!!!!

Donny didn't know he dismantled the Pandemic Response Team

"Someone else may have done that, I don't know"

The Buck doesn't stop with him.

No one cares about what Obama did, Doug.