Posted by ozomatli on 10/5/2019 7:30:00 PM (view original):
@redcped -- The player you select cannot have ever played with anyone on the 2000 Mets except for the player you twisted to get them in the first place

OK. Is there a tool that helps you verify this? Or do I have to search every season of the careers of every player on the 2000 Mets one by one to check each guy I want to pick?

Or I am overthinking this?

Posted by redcped on 10/5/2019 7:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by ozomatli on 10/5/2019 7:30:00 PM (view original):
@redcped -- The player you select cannot have ever played with anyone on the 2000 Mets except for the player you twisted to get them in the first place

OK. Is there a tool that helps you verify this? Or do I have to search every season of the careers of every player on the 2000 Mets one by one to check each guy I want to pick?

Or I am overthinking this?

I will probably put a spreadsheet together that I can share, but I haven't done this yet so for now it's manual

EDIT: Actually, it looks like this would work

$140M

Draft order example: The #1 ranked owner nominated Babe Ruth and the #2 ranked owner nominated Roger Maris. In Round 1: I select Lou Gehrig as my teammate, tied to Babe Ruth and brianjw selects Mickey Mantle, tied to Roger Maris. I would pick before brianjw in the next round since Ruth was nominated before Maris.

Clarify how the draft order works. Your example relates a rd 1 nominee (Ruth)to a rd 2 nominee(Maris). I'm assuming you are 1, brianjw is 2?

Posted by DoctorKz on 10/5/2019 7:37:00 PM (view original):
$140M

Draft order example: The #1 ranked owner nominated Babe Ruth and the #2 ranked owner nominated Roger Maris. In Round 1: I select Lou Gehrig as my teammate, tied to Babe Ruth and brianjw selects Mickey Mantle, tied to Roger Maris. I would pick before brianjw in the next round since Ruth was nominated before Maris.

Clarify how the draft order works. Your example relates a rd 1 nominee (Ruth)to a rd 2 nominee(Maris). I'm assuming you are 1, brianjw is 2?

I don't understand this question. Players are not nominated each round. They are nominated before the draft. I am not saying that brianjw or myself has any particular rank in this example, though I appreciate the order you assumed

140 mil

a) if a player is a teammate of two nominated players do we state which one we are using when we make that pick

b) I’m assuming the nominated players are not able to be selected later as teammates?

Posted by daddyzander on 10/5/2019 7:41:00 PM (view original):
140 mil

a) if a player is a teammate of two nominated players do we state which one we are using when we make that pick

b) I’m assuming the nominated players are not able to be selected later as teammates?

A) Yes, this is stated in the rules

B) Yes, this is also stated in the rules

Posted by daddyzander on 10/5/2019 6:35:00 PM (view original):
So 255 mil easy questions

a) what happens if two people bid the exact same amount

b) let’s say I have bid 250 of my 255 mil with five picks left therefore compliant. What happens if someone else bids more for the same guy. To make an additional bid I cannot be at 1 mil a pick any longer.

I think this is going to be a problem. A lot of people are going to run out of money. Are we going to have a policy for what order they select in during the late rounds?

Should you make the rule that people must leave $2M/round (at least on initial bids)?

And this thing of making the losers pay to is reminding me of a famous paradox.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_auction

Posted by brianjw on 10/5/2019 8:12:00 PM (view original):

Posted by daddyzander on 10/5/2019 6:35:00 PM (view original):
So 255 mil easy questions

a) what happens if two people bid the exact same amount

b) let’s say I have bid 250 of my 255 mil with five picks left therefore compliant. What happens if someone else bids more for the same guy. To make an additional bid I cannot be at 1 mil a pick any longer.

I think this is going to be a problem. A lot of people are going to run out of money. Are we going to have a policy for what order they select in during the late rounds?

Should you make the rule that people must leave $2M/round (at least on initial bids)?

You are required to keep enough back so you can bid at least $1M for your remaining picks. I was looking at that possibility too...

You can only bid in increments of 1M (i.e. a bid of 10M is ok, a bid of 9.5M is not ok) and you cannot make a bid that would leave you with less than 1M for each subsequent round of the draft.

Someone will need to keep score...

I don't think many, if any, will run out of money. I don't think there will be as many cases of people picking the same player as you'd think at first. There should be a policy, though. We'll use the same format but in this case, since there is no highest bid, the player will be blacklisted and people will need to re-pick.

It also may be worth adding a maximum bid amount, just in case.

I think there will be very few cases of people picking the same player and making the same bid. I think there will be a lot of cases of people picking the same players and having to make two bids in one round.

Posted by brianjw on 10/5/2019 8:53:00 PM (view original):
I think there will be very few cases of people picking the same player and making the same bid. I think there will be a lot of cases of people picking the same players and having to make two bids in one round.

I don't want to influence people's strategies too much by getting too deep into it, but I don't think that will be the case.

I'd be shocked if more than 10-15% of all players picked end up being picked multiple times. Given halfway-decent cash management, everyone should be fine.

Just to confirm in the 110M league, the bar on being teammates with two players from the base team extends outside the 10 year window, right? So in your 2002 Red Sox example, I couldn't pick anyone who was also a teammate of a 2000 Met in 1994 or 2006.

This is an observation, not a complaint, but it does appear at least possible that a good deal of roster formation in the $255M draft will come down to luck and some owners could find themselves at a massive disadvantage within the first couple rounds. An owner could easily wind up losing on on multiple players in each round and be far shorter on cash than others, and it wouldn't really have anything to do with how good they are at playing WIS.

I've done a couple silent auctions just with players and without the money factor, and it becomes a bit more of a psychology game than a draft.

Posted by brianjw on 10/5/2019 9:31:00 PM (view original):
Just to confirm in the 110M league, the bar on being teammates with two players from the base team extends outside the 10 year window, right? So in your 2002 Red Sox example, I couldn't pick anyone who was also a teammate of a 2000 Met in 1994 or 2006.

Ah, yeah. Correct