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But in porn both actors get paid? Who is the prostitute? Both of them?
Yes, they are both being paid to have sex. By definition, they are both prostituting themselves.
WHO'S THE JOHN?!?!
I have ignored this question because you are trying to change the definition. If you are being paid to have sex, you are a prostitute by definition. I have posted the definition like 10 times already.
Yeah, I can read. My point is that the one line definition of prostitute isn't all encompassing. Simple definitions aren't intended to be rules.
For instance, the definition of prostitute on Merriam-Webster is:
to offer indiscriminately for sexual intercourse especially for money
Porn actors DO NOT "offer indiscriminately for sexual intercourse." If I show up at Tori Black's house with a briefcase full of money, she isn't going to have sex with me.
And the definition of Sexual Intercourse (MW) is:
1: heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the ***** :COITUS
2: intercourse (such as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the *****
Yet, people who give hand-jobs for money are engaging in prostitution despite not meeting the definition of sexual intercourse.
So, instead of focusing so hard on a simple, one-line definition, try using your brain.
I'm not focusing on one line definitions. I'm using common sense. Prostitution is sex for money. Porn stars are being paid to have sex. They are prostituting themselves. They are not being paid to act. Nobody gives a **** about their acting. Saying that Tori Black would reject you if you showed up at her house is a bad argument. A prostitute in Vegas would probably reject you as well if you randomly showed up at their house. Tori Black would probably be more likely to reject as I assume she has less need for the money.
Whether you work in a brothel or for a porn company, you are going to work to have sex.
You are focusing on the definition. You even "posted the definition like 10 times already."
I am focusing on the definition. You are 100% correct. The whole point of my argument is that by definition, pornography is a form of prostitution. I brought it up again because you argued a while back that Stormy Daniels was not a prostitute. My point was that made a career out of having sex for money. So, yes she was a prostitute.
I am not focusing on the one-line definition. I do understand that the scope is broader than this. I am using the one-line definition as the base of the argument.
Let's look at it another way.
Group A is all people whose jobs incorporate sex in one way or another.
That's a pretty big group.
All prostitutes fall within group A. But group A is not all prostitutes. Prostitutes are a subgroup within A. Other subgroups within A: strippers, models, porn stars, non-porn actors, novelists, therapists, etc.
And there's crossover within those groups. Some traditional actors do porn. Some porn stars also work as prostitutes, etc. But that's crossover between groups, not merging of two groups into one.
Slide strippers and porn stars over to the other side of group A and I agree with you. If you are having sex for payment, you are prostituting yourself. I'm not sure why this bothers you so much. You've already said that sex isn't a big deal to you. That's fine. You're more than entitled to that view.
The only reason that I can see that would make you care about the distinction is because one form of prostitution is illegal in most places and very dangerous and one is legal and regulated for the women's safety.