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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 4:25:00 PM (view original):
I am certainly anti Left. I think any political faction that is threatened by the likes of Ben Shapiro has major issues.

No one is threatened by Shapiro.

he can't even reach the podium without a stepstool.

****, he still has daddy sticking up for him. Lol.

Ummm....There are quite a few on the far left who hate free speech and are scared to death of Shapiro.

there are quite a few everywhere who are hate free speech (trump seems to be one).

Don't move the goal posts. Why is the Left petrified of Ben Shapiro?

I can't speak for the left. I'm not scared in the least of Ben Shapiro. You'd have to ask people who are scared of him why they are scared of him.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 4:25:00 PM (view original):
I am certainly anti Left. I think any political faction that is threatened by the likes of Ben Shapiro has major issues.

No one is threatened by Shapiro.

he can't even reach the podium without a stepstool.

****, he still has daddy sticking up for him. Lol.

Ummm....There are quite a few on the far left who hate free speech and are scared to death of Shapiro.

there are quite a few everywhere who are hate free speech (trump seems to be one).

Don't move the goal posts. Why is the Left petrified of Ben Shapiro?

Lol. You are seriously overestimating Shapiro's importance and presence.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/29/2019 1:44:00 PM (view original):
As a libertarian, I want government out of my life completely. California is now requiring companies to have at least 1 woman on their board of directors by the end of 2019 and must have at least 2 by the end of 2021. Government should not be involved in companies decisions. This is major government overreach.

I agree. I am against affirmative action, I think it is a step but not the right way to improve equality in America.

As for the government out of life completely, well, I think that is silly.

As Jon Stewart put it, "Some people want government to be better, not for it to be gone."

Government has 1 role in my opinion. Protect people from other people. Other than that, if I'm not hurting anyone else, leave me the hell alone.

John Stewart is an idiot.

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As a libertarian, I want government out of my life completely. California is now requiring companies to have at least 1 woman on their board of directors by the end of 2019 and must have at least 2 by the end of 2021. Government should not be involved in companies decisions. This is major government overreach.

I agree,strikeout. Companies should be allowed to hire the people they see as the best people for whatever job they are looking to fill, regardless of race, gender or religion or sexual orientation. On the other hand, they should not be allowed to not hire a great candidate because of race, gender, religion or sexual preference.

Why? Won't it harm the Company if they pass on a "great" candidate because of those reasons?

so, you think its okay for a company to discriminate on the basis of race, religion, gender or sexual orientation? Why am I not too surprised.

Yeah. IDC. If the Company doesn't hire the best it will suffer when compared to its competitors.

that's right...I forgot you don't care about anything that does not directly affect you.

To a point you're not wrong. But why should I be forced to hire someone I am not comfortable hiring?

why wouldn't you be comfortable hiring the best qualified candidate?

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 4:25:00 PM (view original):
I am certainly anti Left. I think any political faction that is threatened by the likes of Ben Shapiro has major issues.

No one is threatened by Shapiro.

he can't even reach the podium without a stepstool.

****, he still has daddy sticking up for him. Lol.

Ummm....There are quite a few on the far left who hate free speech and are scared to death of Shapiro.

there are quite a few everywhere who are hate free speech (trump seems to be one).

Don't move the goal posts. Why is the Left petrified of Ben Shapiro?

Lol. You are seriously overestimating Shapiro's importance and presence.

Well he is harmless and the left rails against him. Its all over YouTube go and watch. I am curious as to why? You don't even know or understand why.

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/29/2019 3:36:00 PM (view original):
First off, I am against anti-discrimination laws anyways. The market takes of discrimination on its own. The government actually had to put discrimination laws into place because the market wasn't discriminating for them. People don't care who they sell to. They just want the money. The people that do care go out of business. It's one thing that I love about capitalism.

To this specific case, the baker said he would sell the gay couple a cake. He said that he would not put two dudes on top and he would not write "Jim and Bob" or whatever on it. Asking him to decorate the cake for a gay wedding is discriminating on his religious beliefs. Once again, take a step back and look at this logically.

Yeah but what if enough bakers refuse service to enough gay people? That's pretty bad for the gay people, right? Asking someone to bake a cake for a gay person is not discrimination against their belief.

On your BL argument, if I go into an occupation where I am expected to write books based on people's requests, I will be expected to do that, regardless of whether I agree with it or not.

I guarantee that many authors who help write athlete's books do not agree with everything they write.

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As a libertarian, I want government out of my life completely. California is now requiring companies to have at least 1 woman on their board of directors by the end of 2019 and must have at least 2 by the end of 2021. Government should not be involved in companies decisions. This is major government overreach.

I agree,strikeout. Companies should be allowed to hire the people they see as the best people for whatever job they are looking to fill, regardless of race, gender or religion or sexual orientation. On the other hand, they should not be allowed to not hire a great candidate because of race, gender, religion or sexual preference.

Why? Won't it harm the Company if they pass on a "great" candidate because of those reasons?

so, you think its okay for a company to discriminate on the basis of race, religion, gender or sexual orientation? Why am I not too surprised.

Yeah. IDC. If the Company doesn't hire the best it will suffer when compared to its competitors.

that's right...I forgot you don't care about anything that does not directly affect you.

To a point you're not wrong. But why should I be forced to hire someone I am not comfortable hiring?

why wouldn't you be comfortable hiring the best qualified candidate?

"Best Qualified" is subjective. Maybe I don't see them as a great fit for the team or I don't like their personality? It has to be a fit as I have to spend 50 hours a week with that person. Best qualified on paper does not always equate to best qualified in RL.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 4:25:00 PM (view original):
I am certainly anti Left. I think any political faction that is threatened by the likes of Ben Shapiro has major issues.

No one is threatened by Shapiro.

he can't even reach the podium without a stepstool.

****, he still has daddy sticking up for him. Lol.

Ummm....There are quite a few on the far left who hate free speech and are scared to death of Shapiro.

I'd say way more on the right are afraid of AOC. She scares the **** out of the right.

I'm in a **** ton of Dem discussion groups. Ben Shapiro's name NEVER comes up. Ever

AOC scares me because she is stupid, but has been elected to a position of power within the country. She was an economics major and doesn't understand economics. Very dangerous road.

Because his name really never comes up unless you bring him up. When has anyone here but you started any dialogue about Ben Shapiro?

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/29/2019 3:36:00 PM (view original):
First off, I am against anti-discrimination laws anyways. The market takes of discrimination on its own. The government actually had to put discrimination laws into place because the market wasn't discriminating for them. People don't care who they sell to. They just want the money. The people that do care go out of business. It's one thing that I love about capitalism.

To this specific case, the baker said he would sell the gay couple a cake. He said that he would not put two dudes on top and he would not write "Jim and Bob" or whatever on it. Asking him to decorate the cake for a gay wedding is discriminating on his religious beliefs. Once again, take a step back and look at this logically.

Yeah but what if enough bakers refuse service to enough gay people? That's pretty bad for the gay people, right? Asking someone to bake a cake for a gay person is not discrimination against their belief.

On your BL argument, if I go into an occupation where I am expected to write books based on people's requests, I will be expected to do that, regardless of whether I agree with it or not.

I guarantee that many authors who help write athlete's books do not agree with everything they write.

Wrong. Because there will be those that service gay people and they will make a killing $$$wise.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 4:25:00 PM (view original):
I am certainly anti Left. I think any political faction that is threatened by the likes of Ben Shapiro has major issues.

No one is threatened by Shapiro.

he can't even reach the podium without a stepstool.

****, he still has daddy sticking up for him. Lol.

Ummm....There are quite a few on the far left who hate free speech and are scared to death of Shapiro.

I'd say way more on the right are afraid of AOC. She scares the **** out of the right.

I'm in a **** ton of Dem discussion groups. Ben Shapiro's name NEVER comes up. Ever

AOC scares me because she is stupid, but has been elected to a position of power within the country. She was an economics major and doesn't understand economics. Very dangerous road.

No more dumb or dangerous than Trump.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 4:25:00 PM (view original):
I am certainly anti Left. I think any political faction that is threatened by the likes of Ben Shapiro has major issues.

No one is threatened by Shapiro.

he can't even reach the podium without a stepstool.

****, he still has daddy sticking up for him. Lol.

Ummm....There are quite a few on the far left who hate free speech and are scared to death of Shapiro.

there are quite a few everywhere who are hate free speech (trump seems to be one).

Don't move the goal posts. Why is the Left petrified of Ben Shapiro?

I hate terms like The Left. Stop using it.

I am not petrified of Ben Shapiro. He is not relevant in any way.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/29/2019 2:24:00 PM (view original):
We all have government protections. It doesn't give the government the right to intrude on our lives. It should work the same for businesses. It's the government's job to protect.

Okay, I agree that when businesses start taking handouts from the government they have now sold their sole and relinquished their freedoms. This creates crony capitalism and is very dangerous.

You didn't answer the last question.

We all have government protections but there are times when we waive our rights in exchange for something else.

For instance, when you open a bank (or other public accommodation), you give up the right to discriminate against your customers on the basis of religion.

Open a private club or church, feel free to discriminate. Open a bank, restaurant, etc., give up that right.

This brings up another interesting point and shows why your logic is flawed. Government screws everything they touch up. That's a fact. For instance, in effort to prevent discrimination, the government actually discriminates. A good example of this is the Oregon baker.

Not 'everything.' I would argue that in many cases, the private sector is more flawed than the government, so long as the people hold government accountable.

But at least the people have some say in government.

The market holds the private sector accountable. Issues arise when the government gets involved with private sector.

The Left is the Progressive Left like the Alt Right and just cause you are not doesn't mean others feel the same way. Check out YouTube. He has mobs out to get him. LOL.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/29/2019 1:44:00 PM (view original):
As a libertarian, I want government out of my life completely. California is now requiring companies to have at least 1 woman on their board of directors by the end of 2019 and must have at least 2 by the end of 2021. Government should not be involved in companies decisions. This is major government overreach.

I agree. I am against affirmative action, I think it is a step but not the right way to improve equality in America.

As for the government out of life completely, well, I think that is silly.

As Jon Stewart put it, "Some people want government to be better, not for it to be gone."

Government has 1 role in my opinion. Protect people from other people. Other than that, if I'm not hurting anyone else, leave me the hell alone.

John Stewart is an idiot.

Well, that's your opinion, although government isn't 'Protecting people from other people' if they don't get to ban discrimination.

It's 'Jon', and no he is not.