Posted by bad_luck on 6/25/2018 2:30:00 PM (view original):What happens if the BP can’t verify?
Posted by tangplay on 6/25/2018 2:34:00 PM (view original):Posted by cccp1014 on 6/25/2018 1:40:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 6/25/2018 1:34:00 PM (view original):Posted by cccp1014 on 6/25/2018 10:46:00 AM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 6/24/2018 10:14:00 PM (view original):Posted by cccp1014 on 6/24/2018 8:38:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 6/24/2018 2:05:00 PM (view original):How so? And why should innovation be the main way to decide whether a country is successful or not? BTW, capitalism has innovation problems too. In Kansas big energy dominates. We have restrictions on solar panels that we can buy because that would hurt the big corporations.You just don't get it. Why do I waste my time? I don't get it. Explain it to me.Through innovation you get: Apple Phones Electric Cars Wireless home security Medicinal cures and procedures You get this because people want to be rich and hence innovation is their key to get there. First mover advantage. Socialism does not lend itself to innovation because the reward is not as great. There will still be altruistic people innovating but not as many as those in capitalist countries. Do you know what a Venture Fund is? 1. Even if Democratic Socialism (Which is capitalism) isn't as good at innovation as free-market capitalism, there will still be plenty of free-market capitalists to innovate. 2. Even in a society like Scandinavia, people still want to be rich. If you play the lottery, your thought process wouldn't be that you will only be happy if you win the grand prize. Even if you win the 2nd best prize, you are still happy. Rich people in Democratic Socialist societies are still, well, rich. They still have better lives than the poor. I have heard of the phrase, but I probably don't have the best grips as to what it is.You are all over the place. So you want to live a simple and humble life and have others innovate for you. How European of you. Have the US back you militarily so you can concentrate on other things. OK. What? That argument is all over the place. I made the argument that people will still innovate regardless. What about military?
Posted by cccp1014 on 6/25/2018 1:40:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 6/25/2018 1:34:00 PM (view original):Posted by cccp1014 on 6/25/2018 10:46:00 AM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 6/24/2018 10:14:00 PM (view original):Posted by cccp1014 on 6/24/2018 8:38:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 6/24/2018 2:05:00 PM (view original):How so? And why should innovation be the main way to decide whether a country is successful or not? BTW, capitalism has innovation problems too. In Kansas big energy dominates. We have restrictions on solar panels that we can buy because that would hurt the big corporations.You just don't get it. Why do I waste my time? I don't get it. Explain it to me.Through innovation you get: Apple Phones Electric Cars Wireless home security Medicinal cures and procedures You get this because people want to be rich and hence innovation is their key to get there. First mover advantage. Socialism does not lend itself to innovation because the reward is not as great. There will still be altruistic people innovating but not as many as those in capitalist countries. Do you know what a Venture Fund is? 1. Even if Democratic Socialism (Which is capitalism) isn't as good at innovation as free-market capitalism, there will still be plenty of free-market capitalists to innovate. 2. Even in a society like Scandinavia, people still want to be rich. If you play the lottery, your thought process wouldn't be that you will only be happy if you win the grand prize. Even if you win the 2nd best prize, you are still happy. Rich people in Democratic Socialist societies are still, well, rich. They still have better lives than the poor. I have heard of the phrase, but I probably don't have the best grips as to what it is.You are all over the place. So you want to live a simple and humble life and have others innovate for you. How European of you. Have the US back you militarily so you can concentrate on other things. OK.
Posted by tangplay on 6/25/2018 1:34:00 PM (view original):Posted by cccp1014 on 6/25/2018 10:46:00 AM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 6/24/2018 10:14:00 PM (view original):Posted by cccp1014 on 6/24/2018 8:38:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 6/24/2018 2:05:00 PM (view original):How so? And why should innovation be the main way to decide whether a country is successful or not? BTW, capitalism has innovation problems too. In Kansas big energy dominates. We have restrictions on solar panels that we can buy because that would hurt the big corporations.You just don't get it. Why do I waste my time? I don't get it. Explain it to me.Through innovation you get: Apple Phones Electric Cars Wireless home security Medicinal cures and procedures You get this because people want to be rich and hence innovation is their key to get there. First mover advantage. Socialism does not lend itself to innovation because the reward is not as great. There will still be altruistic people innovating but not as many as those in capitalist countries. Do you know what a Venture Fund is? 1. Even if Democratic Socialism (Which is capitalism) isn't as good at innovation as free-market capitalism, there will still be plenty of free-market capitalists to innovate. 2. Even in a society like Scandinavia, people still want to be rich. If you play the lottery, your thought process wouldn't be that you will only be happy if you win the grand prize. Even if you win the 2nd best prize, you are still happy. Rich people in Democratic Socialist societies are still, well, rich. They still have better lives than the poor. I have heard of the phrase, but I probably don't have the best grips as to what it is.
Posted by cccp1014 on 6/25/2018 10:46:00 AM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 6/24/2018 10:14:00 PM (view original):Posted by cccp1014 on 6/24/2018 8:38:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 6/24/2018 2:05:00 PM (view original):How so? And why should innovation be the main way to decide whether a country is successful or not? BTW, capitalism has innovation problems too. In Kansas big energy dominates. We have restrictions on solar panels that we can buy because that would hurt the big corporations.You just don't get it. Why do I waste my time? I don't get it. Explain it to me.Through innovation you get: Apple Phones Electric Cars Wireless home security Medicinal cures and procedures You get this because people want to be rich and hence innovation is their key to get there. First mover advantage. Socialism does not lend itself to innovation because the reward is not as great. There will still be altruistic people innovating but not as many as those in capitalist countries. Do you know what a Venture Fund is?
Posted by tangplay on 6/24/2018 10:14:00 PM (view original):Posted by cccp1014 on 6/24/2018 8:38:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 6/24/2018 2:05:00 PM (view original):How so? And why should innovation be the main way to decide whether a country is successful or not? BTW, capitalism has innovation problems too. In Kansas big energy dominates. We have restrictions on solar panels that we can buy because that would hurt the big corporations.You just don't get it. Why do I waste my time? I don't get it. Explain it to me.
Posted by cccp1014 on 6/24/2018 8:38:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 6/24/2018 2:05:00 PM (view original):How so? And why should innovation be the main way to decide whether a country is successful or not? BTW, capitalism has innovation problems too. In Kansas big energy dominates. We have restrictions on solar panels that we can buy because that would hurt the big corporations.You just don't get it. Why do I waste my time?
Posted by tangplay on 6/24/2018 2:05:00 PM (view original):How so? And why should innovation be the main way to decide whether a country is successful or not? BTW, capitalism has innovation problems too. In Kansas big energy dominates. We have restrictions on solar panels that we can buy because that would hurt the big corporations.
Posted by bagchucker on 6/25/2018 2:38:00 PM (view original):cccp wins
Posted by cccp1014 on 6/25/2018 2:34:00 PM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 6/25/2018 2:30:00 PM (view original):Posted by cccp1014 on 6/25/2018 2:29:00 PM (view original):I think the border agents will do all they can to verify him if he says he is a US Citizen. What if he says he is Mexican and sneaking out because he has no future there. In that example would you be OK with him being sent back or does he deserve due process? I answered you. Answer me. So the border patrol becomes judge and jury? Until you answer me, we are done. You would agree that my example is more probable than yours. LOL. You lose Again
Posted by bad_luck on 6/25/2018 2:30:00 PM (view original):Posted by cccp1014 on 6/25/2018 2:29:00 PM (view original):I think the border agents will do all they can to verify him if he says he is a US Citizen. What if he says he is Mexican and sneaking out because he has no future there. In that example would you be OK with him being sent back or does he deserve due process? I answered you. Answer me. So the border patrol becomes judge and jury?
Posted by cccp1014 on 6/25/2018 2:29:00 PM (view original):I think the border agents will do all they can to verify him if he says he is a US Citizen. What if he says he is Mexican and sneaking out because he has no future there. In that example would you be OK with him being sent back or does he deserve due process? I answered you. Answer me.
Posted by cccp1014 on 6/25/2018 2:43:00 PM (view original):They send him back. In your needle in a haystack example.
Posted by bad_luck on 6/25/2018 2:46:00 PM (view original):Posted by cccp1014 on 6/25/2018 2:43:00 PM (view original):They send him back. In your needle in a haystack example. So they pick him up, he says he’s a citizen but doesn’t have ID. BP can’t immediately verify anything. And that’s it? He gets deported to Mexico without a chance to prove his case?
Posted by cccp1014 on 6/25/2018 2:55:00 PM (view original):Posted by bad_luck on 6/25/2018 2:46:00 PM (view original):Posted by cccp1014 on 6/25/2018 2:43:00 PM (view original):They send him back. In your needle in a haystack example. So they pick him up, he says he’s a citizen but doesn’t have ID. BP can’t immediately verify anything. And that’s it? He gets deported to Mexico without a chance to prove his case?He has no ID, no story and he is sneaking in? LOL. They ask him probing questions and then make a decision. Empower your officers.
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