Posted by cccp1014 on 6/19/2018 7:25:00 AM (view original):
I don’t care if you are stupid but I do care if you are intolerant. For example if I say that children and parents get separated at the border because a lot of times children are sent by themselves or people pose as parents because they are drug mules or that this law was in place under BHO and no one said anything, I am called an insensitive bigot by the Left.

Pretty stupid and intolerant.

and if I say Trump is a lying con-man, I'm called a crazy leftist liberal by the right. I'm also called un-patriotic.
Pretty stupid and intolerant.

Posted by wylie715 on 6/19/2018 12:21:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/19/2018 7:25:00 AM (view original):
I don’t care if you are stupid but I do care if you are intolerant. For example if I say that children and parents get separated at the border because a lot of times children are sent by themselves or people pose as parents because they are drug mules or that this law was in place under BHO and no one said anything, I am called an insensitive bigot by the Left.

Pretty stupid and intolerant.

and if I say Trump is a lying con-man, I'm called a crazy leftist liberal by the right. I'm also called un-patriotic.
Pretty stupid and intolerant.

Show some examples? I don't think I ever said that. Or anyone did for that matter.

I am still waiting to hear from you on what specific policies you are referring to that you either disagree with or feel that you have been conned in some way?

I don't feel I've been conned. I think I know what and who Trump is, so his con did not work on me. And what do you mean "still" waiting? I didn't even know you were waiting in the first place.

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/19/2018 7:25:00 AM (view original):
I don’t care if you are stupid but I do care if you are intolerant. For example if I say that children and parents get separated at the border because a lot of times children are sent by themselves or people pose as parents because they are drug mules or that this law was in place under BHO and no one said anything, I am called an insensitive bigot by the Left.

Pretty stupid and intolerant.

Unaccompanied minors aren't the issue here. They aren't being separated from their parents by the US government because they arrived alone.

Maybe some people are pretending to be parents, but the vast majority are the parents. Taking the children from them is cruel and damaging to the children. It's inhumane and needs to stop immediately.

And no, this "law" (it's actually a executive policy, not a law) was not in place under Obama. It's new, as of May 2018.

Posted by bad_luck on 6/20/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/19/2018 7:25:00 AM (view original):
I don’t care if you are stupid but I do care if you are intolerant. For example if I say that children and parents get separated at the border because a lot of times children are sent by themselves or people pose as parents because they are drug mules or that this law was in place under BHO and no one said anything, I am called an insensitive bigot by the Left.

Pretty stupid and intolerant.

Unaccompanied minors aren't the issue here. They aren't being separated from their parents by the US government because they arrived alone.

Maybe some people are pretending to be parents, but the vast majority are the parents. Taking the children from them is cruel and damaging to the children. It's inhumane and needs to stop immediately.

And no, this "law" (it's actually a executive policy, not a law) was not in place under Obama. It's new, as of May 2018.

Maybe then parents should not try to come over illegally?

Right?

They are breaking the law. If you know you will be separated from your kids, odds are you won't come over.

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/20/2018 1:16:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 6/20/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/19/2018 7:25:00 AM (view original):
I don’t care if you are stupid but I do care if you are intolerant. For example if I say that children and parents get separated at the border because a lot of times children are sent by themselves or people pose as parents because they are drug mules or that this law was in place under BHO and no one said anything, I am called an insensitive bigot by the Left.

Pretty stupid and intolerant.

Unaccompanied minors aren't the issue here. They aren't being separated from their parents by the US government because they arrived alone.

Maybe some people are pretending to be parents, but the vast majority are the parents. Taking the children from them is cruel and damaging to the children. It's inhumane and needs to stop immediately.

And no, this "law" (it's actually a executive policy, not a law) was not in place under Obama. It's new, as of May 2018.

Maybe then parents should not try to come over illegally?

Right?

They are breaking the law. If you know you will be separated from your kids, odds are you won't come over.

So torture toddlers as an immigration deterrent?

That's ******.

Posted by bad_luck on 6/20/2018 1:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/20/2018 1:16:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 6/20/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/19/2018 7:25:00 AM (view original):
I don’t care if you are stupid but I do care if you are intolerant. For example if I say that children and parents get separated at the border because a lot of times children are sent by themselves or people pose as parents because they are drug mules or that this law was in place under BHO and no one said anything, I am called an insensitive bigot by the Left.

Pretty stupid and intolerant.

Unaccompanied minors aren't the issue here. They aren't being separated from their parents by the US government because they arrived alone.

Maybe some people are pretending to be parents, but the vast majority are the parents. Taking the children from them is cruel and damaging to the children. It's inhumane and needs to stop immediately.

And no, this "law" (it's actually a executive policy, not a law) was not in place under Obama. It's new, as of May 2018.

Maybe then parents should not try to come over illegally?

Right?

They are breaking the law. If you know you will be separated from your kids, odds are you won't come over.

So torture toddlers as an immigration deterrent?

That's ******.

I don't get it, bad luck.

1. Parents are breaking the law. So what do you want our officials to do? Don't come over illegally. Obviously something is amiss in Mexico if people are flocking out of there.
2. If things are this bad and you agree they are since people are flocking out of there at the risk of being separated from their children, then why do people oppose a wall?

It is inhumane. It does suck. But it is a deterrent. If your parents rob a bank you will be separated from your kids. Your kids won't go to jail with you. This new administration ran on a strict immigration policy and they won. So now they are enforcing what they ran on. It seems pretty simple to me. If you don't like it then vote them out?

We are a Republic not an Autocracy.

You don't get it? Correct.

The fact that people try to immigrate here illegally doesn't obligate us to take their children from them. The fact that this is a new policy proves that.

Can you not read? This administration ran on tough illegal immigration policy. They won. They are implementing it. If you don't like it then vote them out?

Honestly, my kids read better than you do.

Again, that's dumb. Being tough on immigration doesn't require torturing children.

That's like saying, "Hitler ran on white supremacy, I guess he's justified in his actions against Jews."

I mean, ****, you're arguing an issue that you're clueless about. Up until an hour ago, you thought Obama put this "law" into place.

It was in practice just not as enforced as it is now. Did you equate genocide to this? Seriously?

So would you support the wall then? Or are you against that too? How would you deter illegal immigration?

And lastly, in your example, Hitler did run on that, did enforce it and was lauded for it. Difference was, Jews were not breaking any laws. Illegals are. They are given plenty of warnings and still decide to cross illegally.

Again, what would you do? I am curious.

Of course in typical BL fashion you will skirt the issue and not respond. You'll just keep swearing.

You are such a child.

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/20/2018 2:02:00 PM (view original):
It was in practice just not as enforced as it is now. Did you equate genocide to this? Seriously?

So would you support the wall then? Or are you against that too? How would you deter illegal immigration?

And lastly, in your example, Hitler did run on that, did enforce it and was lauded for it. Difference was, Jews were not breaking any laws. Illegals are. They are given plenty of warnings and still decide to cross illegally.

Again, what would you do? I am curious.

Of course in typical BL fashion you will skirt the issue and not respond. You'll just keep swearing.

You are such a child.

No, it was not in practice. ICE did not separate families until May of this year.

It's called an analogy.

I would not support the wall. I think border security is important. I think the wall is useless.

The "they're breaking the law so anything we do to them is justified" argument is stupid as hell.

How about instead of separating parents and children, we send the whole family back to Mexico and tell them to immigrate legally if they want to stay??

They enforced the law stating that anyone who crosses illegally will be arrested. Similar to anyone who robs a bank will be arrested. So when they are arrested of course they are separated from their kids. If you don't like the law then change it. Again this administration ran on this. If you don't like it then vote them out.

So you support border security but you don't support a wall or a zero tolerance policy. So then what other ideas do you have to address this self defined by you, important topic?

BTW, I understand where you are coming from but this is what the administration ran on. I am not asking if you agree with this policy as you clearly do not but are you surprised by it? I am not in the least. You will have your chance to vote the POTUS out in 2020.