Trump: Worst President Ever? Topic

^^^both bipartisan bills.... Like I said.... It's politics, you pick the stats that make your argument and omit those that don't. Democrats did indeed vote to separate minors from adults. That's not a lie as you put it, it's a half truth.



There's also the Flores Consent Decree from 1997 (a ruling from the liberal 9th circuit) which is specific to what the government must do with minors caught crossing the border illegally.
6/17/2018 6:27 AM (edited)
I will offer you a deal, moy. I will reserve my opinions about denuclearization until it develops or fails, IF you do the same with the Mueller investigation. Sound fair?

Tang, we've gotten more out of North Korea in 7 months than Mueller has on Trump in well over a year. Even IF Mueller finds anything Trump won't leave office nor will republicans vote him out. His base is too strong and they lack the spine. It'll be just like the Hillary case.... "Trump and his team made some mistakes but the intent was not there nor do we recommend criminal charges". I guarantee that's the worst case scenario for Trump. Even CNN states (of course in the last line of the article) that Mueller had nothing on Trump yet.... Libs just don't read that far, they have a hard time reading more than headlines.
6/17/2018 6:27 AM (edited)
Posted by moy23 on 6/17/2018 5:48:00 AM (view original):
I will offer you a deal, moy. I will reserve my opinions about denuclearization until it develops or fails, IF you do the same with the Mueller investigation. Sound fair?

Tang, we've gotten more out of North Korea in 7 months than Mueller has in well over a year. Even IF Mueller finds anything Trump won't leave office nor will republicans vote him out. His base is too strong and they lack the spine. It'll be just like the Hillary case.... "Trump and his team made some mistakes but the intent was not there nor do we recommend criminal charges". I guarantee that's the worst case scenario for Trump. Even CNN states (of course in the last line of the article) that Mueller had nothing on Trump yet.... Libs just don't read that far, they have a hard time reading more than headlines.
Prosecutors haven't tied Manafort, Gates and Kilimnik's alleged wrongdoings to the actions of the Trump campaign, which is at the core of Mueller's investigation.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/15/politics/judge-sends-paul-manafort-to-jail-pending-trial/index.html
6/17/2018 5:51 AM
Trump averages 6.5 false claims( lies( "alternative facts") a day
6/17/2018 6:38 AM
Posted by bronxcheer on 6/17/2018 6:38:00 AM (view original):
Trump averages 6.5 false claims( lies( "alternative facts") a day
That's far less than CNN and MSNBC but I don't hear you complain about that...
6/17/2018 7:37 AM
I get 95 % of my news from the BBC + NPR, NY Times and WSJ

Fox, CNN, and MSNBC are godawful.
6/17/2018 8:38 AM
Posted by mixtroy on 6/16/2018 11:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 6/16/2018 4:34:00 PM (view original):
The Democrats are forcing the breakup of families at the Border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda. Any Immigration Bill MUST HAVE full funding for the Wall, end Catch & Release, Visa Lottery and Chain, and go to Merit Based Immigration. Go for it! WIN!

Democrats can fix their forced family breakup at the Border by working with Republicans on new legislation, for a change! This is why we need more Republicans elected in November. Democrats are good at only three things, High Taxes, High Crime and Obstruction. Sad!

My supporters are the smartest, strongest, most hard working and most loyal that we have seen in our countries history. It is a beautiful thing to watch as we win elections and gather support from all over the country. As we get stronger, so does our country. Best numbers ever!

-Tweeter in Chief
Tell me, what LAW are the democrats responsible for that separates children from their families? Prior to Chump there was no such law. Why don't you go fact check that moy? But yet, he intentionally lies to the public by saying that the dems did it. He's one sorry *** piece of ****!
Ummm.....let's see.....

Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals Program
Chain migration
Lottery system
Santuary Cities

In case you didn't know, we have a legal path to citizenship. This honor is not to be given to those who disrespect and disregard our laws and sovereign territory.

End of story.

You're welcome.
6/17/2018 9:59 AM
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Posted by laramiebob on 6/12/2018 12:16:00 PM (view original):
True Dat........but Kim got to sightsee Singapore, elevate himself to "leader" status, and all without having to leave his own shitter.

Art of the Deal Indeed!
What's in it for rocketman? Yeah, if he denuclearizes the peninsula he has an opportunity to become a transformative leader for North Korea. A chance to change the culture, open up the borders for free trade with economic giants like the USA, actually grow the economy and start feeding their malnourished citizens. Kim doesn't have to be his dad.

Think of the legacy for Kim Jung Un.
For Tang.
What makes you think that Kim is having a sudden personality change? Furthermore, why should he trust us? He saw what we did in Iraq.
Trump is a master negotiator.

and seeing what we did in Iraq is EXACTLY why he should do something now. Look what happened there all because Hussain wouldn't let nuke inspectors in.
Yeah but we wouldn't have invaded Iraq if Saddam had nukes, right?
Who knows.... Obama dropped bombs in Pakistan, and they have nukes.

More likely then an invasion.... Trump will just continue to starve them out and crush their economy.... all while keeping China at bay so they can't help NK.
The answer is no. If Saddam had kept nukes, he would still be on power. You don't think Kim sees that? Tell me moy, what do you think Kim's goals are? I would say his only goal is to keep power, at all costs.
Power of what? Tiny, malnourished North Korea?

To be 30 and wealthy but not able to travel the world.... Imagine how much more money he can make by having sanctions removed and trading globally.

I'm not Un (thank God) and I have no idea what he's thinking... but Trump is giving him one shot at this. If Un wants to be a recluse then fine... But Trump's not one to give this another go around it doesn't work out now, he'll just move on to other issues. Trump doesn't have time to waste on something he thinks is going nowhere.
North Korea is still a country, and a fairly powerful one at that. Kim isn't a normal person, he is a dictator from a line of dictators. I don't see where the character swap came in and he suddenly wants global cooperation.
Moy, Get your head out of the fake news approval ratings and actually have a discussion.
Yeah, you're wrong... Again. Time will tell.

You libs keep underestimating Trump. He's a great negotiator. Watch.
So you agree that Trump hasn't done anything yet?
No. I don't. He already got our last prisoner out of NK and gave up nothing. He arranged for the immediate release of all remains from our fallen soldiers to the US. He's saving money by suspending 'war games'. NK hasn't tested a single missile in 7 months. That's REAL.

Trump also said his NK summit is a first step.... And that denuclearization won't happen in a day. 500 days ago, before Trump was in office, you may recall how bad the NK tensions were.... Infact you and your lib buddies were screaming WWIII is coming now that Trump is in office. You should probably learn to give credit where credit is due. Trump has shocked the world, in a good way.
All of that is wonderful, but the real goal is denuclearization. Like I get that the summit is a first step but I just don't see how the next step will be made. IMO, Kim only wants to keep power, that's been his rhetoric up to this point and will continue in the future. I don't see any character swap there. The summary of all of this for me has been 'I will believe it when I see it.' IF Trump is able to reach a tangible deal on denuclearization I promise I will give him full credit for that.

All of the other things deserve praise too, though. I fully agree with you that Trump has done more with NK than Obama. That and the economy are the only saving graces about his presidency. Is it enough to excuse everything else? No. Do I overall think Trump has been a good president? No. But I will give credit where credit is due.

I will offer you a deal, moy. I will reserve my opinions about denuclearization until it develops or fails, IF you do the same with the Mueller investigation. Sound fair?

BTW, BL doesn't represent all liberals. I was not saying WW3 was going to happen nor did I think the economy would crash.
No response to this moy?


MOY! MOY! MOY!
6/17/2018 10:01 AM
HEY! LOOK AT THIS!

Here's a video of OBAMA lying. Said he had no knowledge of HILLARYS server.


1:41

Obama weighs in on Hillary Clinton's emails


WELL WELL WELL............Not according to the IG report. The Liar in Chief caught red handed.

Of course I personally knew of this over 2 years ago. It was revealed on the Rush Limbaugh show.
6/17/2018 10:21 AM
Posted by DougOut on 6/17/2018 10:21:00 AM (view original):
HEY! LOOK AT THIS!

Here's a video of OBAMA lying. Said he had no knowledge of HILLARYS server.


1:41

Obama weighs in on Hillary Clinton's emails


WELL WELL WELL............Not according to the IG report. The Liar in Chief caught red handed.

Of course I personally knew of this over 2 years ago. It was revealed on the Rush Limbaugh show.
NO WAY!!! PRESIDENTS DON'T EVER LIE!?!?!
6/17/2018 10:33 AM
Posted by DougOut on 6/17/2018 9:59:00 AM (view original):
Posted by mixtroy on 6/16/2018 11:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 6/16/2018 4:34:00 PM (view original):
The Democrats are forcing the breakup of families at the Border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda. Any Immigration Bill MUST HAVE full funding for the Wall, end Catch & Release, Visa Lottery and Chain, and go to Merit Based Immigration. Go for it! WIN!

Democrats can fix their forced family breakup at the Border by working with Republicans on new legislation, for a change! This is why we need more Republicans elected in November. Democrats are good at only three things, High Taxes, High Crime and Obstruction. Sad!

My supporters are the smartest, strongest, most hard working and most loyal that we have seen in our countries history. It is a beautiful thing to watch as we win elections and gather support from all over the country. As we get stronger, so does our country. Best numbers ever!

-Tweeter in Chief
Tell me, what LAW are the democrats responsible for that separates children from their families? Prior to Chump there was no such law. Why don't you go fact check that moy? But yet, he intentionally lies to the public by saying that the dems did it. He's one sorry *** piece of ****!
Ummm.....let's see.....

Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals Program
Chain migration
Lottery system
Santuary Cities

In case you didn't know, we have a legal path to citizenship. This honor is not to be given to those who disrespect and disregard our laws and sovereign territory.

End of story.

You're welcome.
Yeah we have a legal path for citizenry BUT there's not one single law on the books that makes it MANDATORY that kids be separated from their parents if they get caught coming in illegally. That's something that CHUMP has done and is blaming the dems for bc of the negative fallout about the policy
6/17/2018 10:38 AM
Posted by moy23 on 6/17/2018 5:51:00 AM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 6/17/2018 5:48:00 AM (view original):
I will offer you a deal, moy. I will reserve my opinions about denuclearization until it develops or fails, IF you do the same with the Mueller investigation. Sound fair?

Tang, we've gotten more out of North Korea in 7 months than Mueller has in well over a year. Even IF Mueller finds anything Trump won't leave office nor will republicans vote him out. His base is too strong and they lack the spine. It'll be just like the Hillary case.... "Trump and his team made some mistakes but the intent was not there nor do we recommend criminal charges". I guarantee that's the worst case scenario for Trump. Even CNN states (of course in the last line of the article) that Mueller had nothing on Trump yet.... Libs just don't read that far, they have a hard time reading more than headlines.
Prosecutors haven't tied Manafort, Gates and Kilimnik's alleged wrongdoings to the actions of the Trump campaign, which is at the core of Mueller's investigation.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/15/politics/judge-sends-paul-manafort-to-jail-pending-trial/index.html
Not that has been DISCLOSED and made public by Mueller's team...YET!!!!
6/17/2018 10:41 AM
Posted by mixtroy on 6/17/2018 10:38:00 AM (view original):
Posted by DougOut on 6/17/2018 9:59:00 AM (view original):
Posted by mixtroy on 6/16/2018 11:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 6/16/2018 4:34:00 PM (view original):
The Democrats are forcing the breakup of families at the Border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda. Any Immigration Bill MUST HAVE full funding for the Wall, end Catch & Release, Visa Lottery and Chain, and go to Merit Based Immigration. Go for it! WIN!

Democrats can fix their forced family breakup at the Border by working with Republicans on new legislation, for a change! This is why we need more Republicans elected in November. Democrats are good at only three things, High Taxes, High Crime and Obstruction. Sad!

My supporters are the smartest, strongest, most hard working and most loyal that we have seen in our countries history. It is a beautiful thing to watch as we win elections and gather support from all over the country. As we get stronger, so does our country. Best numbers ever!

-Tweeter in Chief
Tell me, what LAW are the democrats responsible for that separates children from their families? Prior to Chump there was no such law. Why don't you go fact check that moy? But yet, he intentionally lies to the public by saying that the dems did it. He's one sorry *** piece of ****!
Ummm.....let's see.....

Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals Program
Chain migration
Lottery system
Santuary Cities

In case you didn't know, we have a legal path to citizenship. This honor is not to be given to those who disrespect and disregard our laws and sovereign territory.

End of story.

You're welcome.
Yeah we have a legal path for citizenry BUT there's not one single law on the books that makes it MANDATORY that kids be separated from their parents if they get caught coming in illegally. That's something that CHUMP has done and is blaming the dems for bc of the negative fallout about the policy
YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME! THIS IS A JOKE. RIGHT? TELL ME THIS IS A JOKE! PLEASE!

Because if this isn't a joke...that means you want the children with the parents....IN PRISON!
6/17/2018 10:48 AM
Posted by moy23 on 6/17/2018 5:51:00 AM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 6/17/2018 5:48:00 AM (view original):
I will offer you a deal, moy. I will reserve my opinions about denuclearization until it develops or fails, IF you do the same with the Mueller investigation. Sound fair?

Tang, we've gotten more out of North Korea in 7 months than Mueller has in well over a year. Even IF Mueller finds anything Trump won't leave office nor will republicans vote him out. His base is too strong and they lack the spine. It'll be just like the Hillary case.... "Trump and his team made some mistakes but the intent was not there nor do we recommend criminal charges". I guarantee that's the worst case scenario for Trump. Even CNN states (of course in the last line of the article) that Mueller had nothing on Trump yet.... Libs just don't read that far, they have a hard time reading more than headlines.
Prosecutors haven't tied Manafort, Gates and Kilimnik's alleged wrongdoings to the actions of the Trump campaign, which is at the core of Mueller's investigation.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/15/politics/judge-sends-paul-manafort-to-jail-pending-trial/index.html
They won’t have to. They can just nail Trump for money laundering. Doesn’t even have to tie back to Russia. It will be beautiful.
6/17/2018 10:57 AM
Posted by mixtroy on 6/17/2018 10:38:00 AM (view original):
Posted by DougOut on 6/17/2018 9:59:00 AM (view original):
Posted by mixtroy on 6/16/2018 11:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 6/16/2018 4:34:00 PM (view original):
The Democrats are forcing the breakup of families at the Border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda. Any Immigration Bill MUST HAVE full funding for the Wall, end Catch & Release, Visa Lottery and Chain, and go to Merit Based Immigration. Go for it! WIN!

Democrats can fix their forced family breakup at the Border by working with Republicans on new legislation, for a change! This is why we need more Republicans elected in November. Democrats are good at only three things, High Taxes, High Crime and Obstruction. Sad!

My supporters are the smartest, strongest, most hard working and most loyal that we have seen in our countries history. It is a beautiful thing to watch as we win elections and gather support from all over the country. As we get stronger, so does our country. Best numbers ever!

-Tweeter in Chief
Tell me, what LAW are the democrats responsible for that separates children from their families? Prior to Chump there was no such law. Why don't you go fact check that moy? But yet, he intentionally lies to the public by saying that the dems did it. He's one sorry *** piece of ****!
Ummm.....let's see.....

Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals Program
Chain migration
Lottery system
Santuary Cities

In case you didn't know, we have a legal path to citizenship. This honor is not to be given to those who disrespect and disregard our laws and sovereign territory.

End of story.

You're welcome.
Yeah we have a legal path for citizenry BUT there's not one single law on the books that makes it MANDATORY that kids be separated from their parents if they get caught coming in illegally. That's something that CHUMP has done and is blaming the dems for bc of the negative fallout about the policy
The fallout has been positive - it further deters more illegals from coming to the US and the media is doing their job letting illegals know they will be separated if caught. Thanks for getting the word out! Guess it just depends on which side of the immigration issue you're on.
6/17/2018 10:59 AM
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