Don’t be a clown.

Similar to how BL stays away from the Israel vs. Palestine argument, I will stay away from this one. I do understand both sides of the complex debate though. Even though I frequently disagree with BL, I at least understand where is coming from most of the time. With TP, I rarely understand his logic.

Posted by bad_luck on 6/7/2018 4:15:00 PM (view original):
I realize that the world isn’t black and white and there are situations that suck but because we have rights, they exist. Women have the right to decide if someone else can live inside them.

She has that right all the way up to the point she has unprotected sex and then doesn't use available after-sex options either.
Abortion should not be used as a birth control method simply because two people are too lazy and/or too selfish.

Posted by bad_luck on 6/7/2018 4:19:00 PM (view original):
Don’t be a clown.

Ha ha you're heartless.

Posted by all3 on 6/7/2018 4:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 6/7/2018 4:15:00 PM (view original):
I realize that the world isn’t black and white and there are situations that suck but because we have rights, they exist. Women have the right to decide if someone else can live inside them.

She has that right all the way up to the point she has unprotected sex and then doesn't use available after-sex options either.
Abortion should not be used as a birth control method simply because two people are too lazy and/or too selfish.

A) Birth control isn’t 100%

B) even for a planned pregnancy, health issues might come up during the pregnancy.

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/7/2018 2:30:00 PM (view original):
Are they unemployed?

No.

Posted by strikeout26 on 6/7/2018 3:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/7/2018 1:56:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/7/2018 1:51:00 PM (view original):
TP's logic:

1. Supports the constitution but wants to eliminate the electoral college and is pro sanctuary cities.
2. Says he is Jewish when both his parents are Christian.
3. Says he is a pacifist and devout Christian but is pro choice.
4. Wants to cut the military budget but does not want to address entitlements.
5. Say he is a sports journalist but considers KC at Seattle (football) to be a guaranteed win for KC with a young QB.
6. Does not believe that most Palestinians and actually likely Muslims want all the Jews eviscerated. Needs "proof"
7. Does not comprehend that the entities that benefited most from the ACA were the insurance companies.
8. Says the world respected the US more with BHO at the helm. As in Benghazi, rise of Isis, Syria, Russia taking Crimea...by "respect" I believe he means "lack of fear".
9. All for Big Gov't except for when the Gov't tells people who they can or cannot marry. Then he wants the Gov't to stay out of it.
10. Thinks the POTUS has very little to do with the economy but ignores the new tax bill that was signed and pushed for by the POTUS, which clearly impacted the economy. Ignores Reaganomics.

Yep, this is the typical new age Democrat.

1. I am not pro sanctuary cities.
2. I am Jewish and so is my mother.
3. I am a moderate on abortion, I think there are no good answers.
4. IDK about entitlements. I didn't say we shouldn't address it.
5. That was a homer joke.
6. Yes, you need to prove your claims.
7. Why is this relevant?
8. What was Obama's global popularity rating? Far ahead of Trump? How many foreigners have you talked to?
9. I am not pro-big Gov't as a principle. You may say that I am, but that isn't an ideology of mine, thus no hypocrisy.
10. I don't know if the tax bill impacted the economy.

Tang, my problem is that you flip flop. You stated that abortion should be illegal once the heart starts beating. Later you backed off of that. I'm not sure you can make up your mind on some issues.

By the way, there is a good answer on abortion. Protect ALL children. This includes those still in the womb.

I did flip flop. You convinced me that that position is wrong. I am more pro-life than I was a couple months ago.

My issue is, of course, the rape issue and the issue of when a woman dies if they give birth. It is a tough question for me. You may see it as an easy answer, I do not.

What I don't understand is the pro-life people who are anti birth control. That makes zero sense to me. If you are pro life, you should love birth control, right? I understand both pro choice and pro life arguments, but that one I just don't get.

Posted by strikeout26 on 6/7/2018 4:13:00 PM (view original):
You do realize that abortion is killing a baby, right? You are quite heartless to support the death of children. You can try to sugarcoat it any way you want, but it still makes you a heartless bastard.

look, you are fully entitled to your beliefs regarding abortion, just as anyone else is. Just because they are your views does not mean they are everyone's views. Personally, I would never want to abort a child and my wife would not either, but I do believe that women should have the right to choose. Why does the unborn child override the mother's rights. There should be a limit as far as how late in pregnancy an abortion is allowed, but my opinion is it should be allowed. You can think I am a "heartless bastard" if it makes you feel better. I know I am not.

Posted by all3 on 6/7/2018 4:15:00 PM (view original):
No surprise the California Crazy is in favor of it.
Is there any BS thing people in that State don't want to legalize or allow?
Makes me wish their secession plan was coming-along much better.

Much rather live in California than wherever the hell you live.

As long as it ain't Los Banos............

Posted by tangplay on 6/7/2018 6:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/7/2018 2:30:00 PM (view original):
Are they unemployed?

No.

Then why didn’t they have insurance?

Posted by wylie715 on 6/7/2018 6:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 6/7/2018 4:13:00 PM (view original):
You do realize that abortion is killing a baby, right? You are quite heartless to support the death of children. You can try to sugarcoat it any way you want, but it still makes you a heartless bastard.

look, you are fully entitled to your beliefs regarding abortion, just as anyone else is. Just because they are your views does not mean they are everyone's views. Personally, I would never want to abort a child and my wife would not either, but I do believe that women should have the right to choose. Why does the unborn child override the mother's rights. There should be a limit as far as how late in pregnancy an abortion is allowed, but my opinion is it should be allowed. You can think I am a "heartless bastard" if it makes you feel better. I know I am not.

I agree with Mr. Belvedere for the most part. Complex issue. We need to first agree when life starts and then debate it.

Posted by wylie715 on 6/7/2018 6:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 6/7/2018 4:15:00 PM (view original):
No surprise the California Crazy is in favor of it.
Is there any BS thing people in that State don't want to legalize or allow?
Makes me wish their secession plan was coming-along much better.

Much rather live in California than wherever the hell you live.

I'm certainly not surprised. Can you move there and help with the secession?

Posted by bad_luck on 6/7/2018 5:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 6/7/2018 4:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 6/7/2018 4:15:00 PM (view original):
I realize that the world isn’t black and white and there are situations that suck but because we have rights, they exist. Women have the right to decide if someone else can live inside them.

She has that right all the way up to the point she has unprotected sex and then doesn't use available after-sex options either.
Abortion should not be used as a birth control method simply because two people are too lazy and/or too selfish.

A) Birth control isn’t 100%

B) even for a planned pregnancy, health issues might come up during the pregnancy.

I would favor exceptions for B.
What % of abortions do you think those 2 conditions cover? 5 at most?
You agree the other 95% already made their choice?