Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 4:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 2:08:00 PM (view original):
#1) Economy
#2) Military
#3) Entitlements
#4) Terrorism
#5) Healthcare
#6) Supreme Court
#7) Education
#9) Trade Deals
#9) Environment
#10) Israel vs. Palestine

#1) idk if the president actually plays a part in controlling it.
#2) I disagree but that's OK.
#3) OK
#4) Idk how big a role the Pres. plays in controlling it.
#5) OK
#6) What about it?
#7) OK.
#8) OK
#9) OK
#10) Specifically what do you want a President to do?

Mine (in a loose order) are:
1. Education
2. Healthcare
3. North Korea
4. Environment
5. Budget
6. Treatment of social issues in the USA like race and class.
7. All other foreign policy.
8. Following of constitution.
9. Economy/Trade deals
10. Good leader/good representation of the USA on a global scale.

To me Trump fails on all of this except for #3 (maybe) and #9.

What did you score Obama as on those 10?

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 5:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 4:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 2:08:00 PM (view original):
#1) Economy
#2) Military
#3) Entitlements
#4) Terrorism
#5) Healthcare
#6) Supreme Court
#7) Education
#9) Trade Deals
#9) Environment
#10) Israel vs. Palestine

#1) idk if the president actually plays a part in controlling it.
#2) I disagree but that's OK.
#3) OK
#4) Idk how big a role the Pres. plays in controlling it.
#5) OK
#6) What about it?
#7) OK.
#8) OK
#9) OK
#10) Specifically what do you want a President to do?

Mine (in a loose order) are:
1. Education
2. Healthcare
3. North Korea
4. Environment
5. Budget
6. Treatment of social issues in the USA like race and class.
7. All other foreign policy.
8. Following of constitution.
9. Economy/Trade deals
10. Good leader/good representation of the USA on a global scale.

To me Trump fails on all of this except for #3 (maybe) and #9.

Ummm..didn’t DJT push the lower taxes for corps? Didn’t he push for establishing the capital in Jerusalem? Doesn’t he nominate the SC Justices?

Are you on drugs?

What are you responding to with your points?

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 5:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 4:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 2:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 1:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 1:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 1:16:00 PM (view original):
Is that a good thing?

IDK

It is not in my top 10 things I worry about.

The economy is doing well, we are spending on our military and renegotiating trade deals. I wish DJT would attack entitlements but that is not in his bag of tricks I guess. The whole Stormy Daniels thing is a red herring. I thought the Lewinsky thing with WJC was stupid too with Ken Starr wasting taxpayer dollars on stupid sh*t.

The constitution isn't on your top 10 priorities?

List out your top 10 priorities.

You are the one anti electoral college. LOL.

Fair point, but I think saying '**** the justice system, the president and co. can do whatever they want' is a bigger adjustment than the electoral college.

What are you talking about? This happened before he became President. Again are you on drugs?

I mean that if the president can pardon himself and everyone he likes with no consequence he can do whatever he wants with no consequence.

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 5:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 4:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 2:08:00 PM (view original):
#1) Economy
#2) Military
#3) Entitlements
#4) Terrorism
#5) Healthcare
#6) Supreme Court
#7) Education
#9) Trade Deals
#9) Environment
#10) Israel vs. Palestine

#1) idk if the president actually plays a part in controlling it.
#2) I disagree but that's OK.
#3) OK
#4) Idk how big a role the Pres. plays in controlling it.
#5) OK
#6) What about it?
#7) OK.
#8) OK
#9) OK
#10) Specifically what do you want a President to do?

Mine (in a loose order) are:
1. Education
2. Healthcare
3. North Korea
4. Environment
5. Budget
6. Treatment of social issues in the USA like race and class.
7. All other foreign policy.
8. Following of constitution.
9. Economy/Trade deals
10. Good leader/good representation of the USA on a global scale.

To me Trump fails on all of this except for #3 (maybe) and #9.

What did you score Obama as on those 10?

Failed on #1, 3, and 5.

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 6:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 5:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 4:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 2:08:00 PM (view original):
#1) Economy
#2) Military
#3) Entitlements
#4) Terrorism
#5) Healthcare
#6) Supreme Court
#7) Education
#9) Trade Deals
#9) Environment
#10) Israel vs. Palestine

#1) idk if the president actually plays a part in controlling it.
#2) I disagree but that's OK.
#3) OK
#4) Idk how big a role the Pres. plays in controlling it.
#5) OK
#6) What about it?
#7) OK.
#8) OK
#9) OK
#10) Specifically what do you want a President to do?

Mine (in a loose order) are:
1. Education
2. Healthcare
3. North Korea
4. Environment
5. Budget
6. Treatment of social issues in the USA like race and class.
7. All other foreign policy.
8. Following of constitution.
9. Economy/Trade deals
10. Good leader/good representation of the USA on a global scale.

To me Trump fails on all of this except for #3 (maybe) and #9.

Ummm..didn’t DJT push the lower taxes for corps? Didn’t he push for establishing the capital in Jerusalem? Doesn’t he nominate the SC Justices?

Are you on drugs?

What are you responding to with your points?

That the POTUS has little to no control over them.

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 6:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 5:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 4:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 2:08:00 PM (view original):
#1) Economy
#2) Military
#3) Entitlements
#4) Terrorism
#5) Healthcare
#6) Supreme Court
#7) Education
#9) Trade Deals
#9) Environment
#10) Israel vs. Palestine

#1) idk if the president actually plays a part in controlling it.
#2) I disagree but that's OK.
#3) OK
#4) Idk how big a role the Pres. plays in controlling it.
#5) OK
#6) What about it?
#7) OK.
#8) OK
#9) OK
#10) Specifically what do you want a President to do?

Mine (in a loose order) are:
1. Education
2. Healthcare
3. North Korea
4. Environment
5. Budget
6. Treatment of social issues in the USA like race and class.
7. All other foreign policy.
8. Following of constitution.
9. Economy/Trade deals
10. Good leader/good representation of the USA on a global scale.

To me Trump fails on all of this except for #3 (maybe) and #9.

What did you score Obama as on those 10?

Failed on #1, 3, and 5.

And 2 and 10 and 4 and 9....Not easy being POTUS.

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 8:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 6:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 5:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 4:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 2:08:00 PM (view original):
#1) Economy
#2) Military
#3) Entitlements
#4) Terrorism
#5) Healthcare
#6) Supreme Court
#7) Education
#9) Trade Deals
#9) Environment
#10) Israel vs. Palestine

#1) idk if the president actually plays a part in controlling it.
#2) I disagree but that's OK.
#3) OK
#4) Idk how big a role the Pres. plays in controlling it.
#5) OK
#6) What about it?
#7) OK.
#8) OK
#9) OK
#10) Specifically what do you want a President to do?

Mine (in a loose order) are:
1. Education
2. Healthcare
3. North Korea
4. Environment
5. Budget
6. Treatment of social issues in the USA like race and class.
7. All other foreign policy.
8. Following of constitution.
9. Economy/Trade deals
10. Good leader/good representation of the USA on a global scale.

To me Trump fails on all of this except for #3 (maybe) and #9.

Ummm..didn’t DJT push the lower taxes for corps? Didn’t he push for establishing the capital in Jerusalem? Doesn’t he nominate the SC Justices?

Are you on drugs?

What are you responding to with your points?

That the POTUS has little to no control over them.

Oh, that's just the economy. And I still don't see how the Pres impacts the econ significantly.

Like if Hoover was to blame for the Great Depression, etc.

For the others, I was just asking what about those things you want the President to do.

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 8:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 6:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 5:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 4:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 2:08:00 PM (view original):
#1) Economy
#2) Military
#3) Entitlements
#4) Terrorism
#5) Healthcare
#6) Supreme Court
#7) Education
#9) Trade Deals
#9) Environment
#10) Israel vs. Palestine

#1) idk if the president actually plays a part in controlling it.
#2) I disagree but that's OK.
#3) OK
#4) Idk how big a role the Pres. plays in controlling it.
#5) OK
#6) What about it?
#7) OK.
#8) OK
#9) OK
#10) Specifically what do you want a President to do?

Mine (in a loose order) are:
1. Education
2. Healthcare
3. North Korea
4. Environment
5. Budget
6. Treatment of social issues in the USA like race and class.
7. All other foreign policy.
8. Following of constitution.
9. Economy/Trade deals
10. Good leader/good representation of the USA on a global scale.

To me Trump fails on all of this except for #3 (maybe) and #9.

What did you score Obama as on those 10?

Failed on #1, 3, and 5.

And 2 and 10 and 4 and 9....Not easy being POTUS.

2: Passed ObamaCare, which is SOMETHING and helps my family have decent healthcare, without it we would have struggled. Could have been better but not failing.
4: Again, could have done more, I wish he did more, but he faced strong resistance in Congress and at least he attempted to address the problems and made it a big issue in America.... unfortunately politicized it as well but that wasn't his fault. This would be a B. Trump would get an F.
9: As far as I could tell the economy was doing pretty well, especially compared to someone like Bush, who would be failing. A failing grade is basically a depression or something actually awful in my book.
10: This was one of Obama's best things in my book. He was pretty universally respected around the world, and he was a pretty good leader and a charismatic guy. From what I have gathered, he is a top-class person, even when the cameras are off. Compared to Trump, who is almost universally hated, NOT charismatic and an iffy at best moral compass, and Obama looks pretty good.

If I were to grade Obama/Trump:
1. Education D/D-
2. Healthcare B/F
3. North Korea D/B+
4. Environment B/F
5. Budget D-/D-
6. Treatment of social issues in the USA like race and class. C/F
7. All other foreign policy. C+/D
8. Following of constitution. A/C
9. Economy/Trade deals C/A
10. Good leader/good representation of the USA on a global scale. A+/F

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 1:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 1:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 1:16:00 PM (view original):
Is that a good thing?

IDK

It is not in my top 10 things I worry about.

The economy is doing well, we are spending on our military and renegotiating trade deals. I wish DJT would attack entitlements but that is not in his bag of tricks I guess. The whole Stormy Daniels thing is a red herring. I thought the Lewinsky thing with WJC was stupid too with Ken Starr wasting taxpayer dollars on stupid sh*t.

The constitution isn't on your top 10 priorities?

List out your top 10 priorities.

For me, the Constitution is pinned at #1.

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 8:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 8:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 6:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 5:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 4:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 2:08:00 PM (view original):
#1) Economy
#2) Military
#3) Entitlements
#4) Terrorism
#5) Healthcare
#6) Supreme Court
#7) Education
#9) Trade Deals
#9) Environment
#10) Israel vs. Palestine

#1) idk if the president actually plays a part in controlling it.
#2) I disagree but that's OK.
#3) OK
#4) Idk how big a role the Pres. plays in controlling it.
#5) OK
#6) What about it?
#7) OK.
#8) OK
#9) OK
#10) Specifically what do you want a President to do?

Mine (in a loose order) are:
1. Education
2. Healthcare
3. North Korea
4. Environment
5. Budget
6. Treatment of social issues in the USA like race and class.
7. All other foreign policy.
8. Following of constitution.
9. Economy/Trade deals
10. Good leader/good representation of the USA on a global scale.

To me Trump fails on all of this except for #3 (maybe) and #9.

What did you score Obama as on those 10?

Failed on #1, 3, and 5.

And 2 and 10 and 4 and 9....Not easy being POTUS.

2: Passed ObamaCare, which is SOMETHING and helps my family have decent healthcare, without it we would have struggled. Could have been better but not failing.
4: Again, could have done more, I wish he did more, but he faced strong resistance in Congress and at least he attempted to address the problems and made it a big issue in America.... unfortunately politicized it as well but that wasn't his fault. This would be a B. Trump would get an F.
9: As far as I could tell the economy was doing pretty well, especially compared to someone like Bush, who would be failing. A failing grade is basically a depression or something actually awful in my book.
10: This was one of Obama's best things in my book. He was pretty universally respected around the world, and he was a pretty good leader and a charismatic guy. From what I have gathered, he is a top-class person, even when the cameras are off. Compared to Trump, who is almost universally hated, NOT charismatic and an iffy at best moral compass, and Obama looks pretty good.

If I were to grade Obama/Trump:
1. Education D/D-
2. Healthcare B/F
3. North Korea D/B+
4. Environment B/F
5. Budget D-/D-
6. Treatment of social issues in the USA like race and class. C/F
7. All other foreign policy. C+/D
8. Following of constitution. A/C
9. Economy/Trade deals C/A
10. Good leader/good representation of the USA on a global scale. A+/F

What do you mean by following the constitution?

Obamacare is "not failing" and gets a B?!
Who knew hallucinogens were so prevalent in central Kansas?
(for a reality check access this: https://www.kff.org/interactive/kaiser-health-tracking-poll-the-publics-views-on-the-aca/#?response=Favorable--Unfavorable&aRange=twoYear)

Whether ObamaCare is a failure or not depends largely on the viewpoint of the party making the judgment.
Someone like me, who is alive directly BECAUSE of ObamaCare is gonna have a favorable viewpoint.
Others who for the 1st time had access to BUYING health insurance also are likely to view it as favorable.
MANY small business owners will view it as unfavorable.

SOME of the ACA (the LAW authorizing program) is extremely good and needed. Some of it is unworkable longterm and will eventually fail WITHOUT amendment/adjustment.
It COULD have been better I think but doing so would have endangered it's pass-ability.
You know...... the opposition of the Repugs who were committed to oppose ANYTHING on Obama's agenda......pledged it to their base........on TV, publicly

Eventually, the ACA will be "fixed" and the Repugs will end up owning the result!..........unless they get wiped out by a blue wave in 2018.......... then it will be the Dems problem. They'll likely fix it.......... by ******* it up completely!
Just my 2 cents. I get to give it thanks to Obama's ACA!

I really can't speak to the question of hallucinogens presence in Kansas. Don't think they have any Liberty Caps but don't they have Morning Glory??

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/7/2018 8:26:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 8:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 8:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 6:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 5:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/6/2018 4:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/6/2018 2:08:00 PM (view original):
#1) Economy
#2) Military
#3) Entitlements
#4) Terrorism
#5) Healthcare
#6) Supreme Court
#7) Education
#9) Trade Deals
#9) Environment
#10) Israel vs. Palestine

#1) idk if the president actually plays a part in controlling it.
#2) I disagree but that's OK.
#3) OK
#4) Idk how big a role the Pres. plays in controlling it.
#5) OK
#6) What about it?
#7) OK.
#8) OK
#9) OK
#10) Specifically what do you want a President to do?

Mine (in a loose order) are:
1. Education
2. Healthcare
3. North Korea
4. Environment
5. Budget
6. Treatment of social issues in the USA like race and class.
7. All other foreign policy.
8. Following of constitution.
9. Economy/Trade deals
10. Good leader/good representation of the USA on a global scale.

To me Trump fails on all of this except for #3 (maybe) and #9.

What did you score Obama as on those 10?

Failed on #1, 3, and 5.

And 2 and 10 and 4 and 9....Not easy being POTUS.

2: Passed ObamaCare, which is SOMETHING and helps my family have decent healthcare, without it we would have struggled. Could have been better but not failing.
4: Again, could have done more, I wish he did more, but he faced strong resistance in Congress and at least he attempted to address the problems and made it a big issue in America.... unfortunately politicized it as well but that wasn't his fault. This would be a B. Trump would get an F.
9: As far as I could tell the economy was doing pretty well, especially compared to someone like Bush, who would be failing. A failing grade is basically a depression or something actually awful in my book.
10: This was one of Obama's best things in my book. He was pretty universally respected around the world, and he was a pretty good leader and a charismatic guy. From what I have gathered, he is a top-class person, even when the cameras are off. Compared to Trump, who is almost universally hated, NOT charismatic and an iffy at best moral compass, and Obama looks pretty good.

If I were to grade Obama/Trump:
1. Education D/D-
2. Healthcare B/F
3. North Korea D/B+
4. Environment B/F
5. Budget D-/D-
6. Treatment of social issues in the USA like race and class. C/F
7. All other foreign policy. C+/D
8. Following of constitution. A/C
9. Economy/Trade deals C/A
10. Good leader/good representation of the USA on a global scale. A+/F

What do you mean by following the constitution?

Like a fundamental understanding and playing by the rules of the constitution.

Posted by all3 on 6/7/2018 12:19:00 PM (view original):
Obamacare is "not failing" and gets a B?!
Who knew hallucinogens were so prevalent in central Kansas?
(for a reality check access this: https://www.kff.org/interactive/kaiser-health-tracking-poll-the-publics-views-on-the-aca/#?response=Favorable--Unfavorable&aRange=twoYear)

ObamaCare sure as hell isn't failing! Bob hit it right on the nose. My family as well is only on Healthcare because of the ACA. And if it was so bad why do Republicans seem not to be able to come up with a better alternative?

BTW thanks for proving my point with your 'reality check'. First off popularity isn't super relevant, secondly there is a huge partisan split, with 79% of Dems supporting it and 79% of Repugs against it. However a plurality of independents support ObamaCare. This seems to support the idea that Obamacare is relatively popular. Again, not perfect, but I think a B grade is pretty fair until we see an alternative.