Posted by cccp1014 on 5/30/2018 8:28:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/29/2018 11:48:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/29/2018 10:23:00 AM (view original):
Answer my question. There is racism everywhere as there is anti semitism but I believe it is a lot less now than it was in the 60s? Again how does a racist in Boston impact a lady in Boston deciding to become a single mom? Forget the race. We need to educate kids that being a single parent is likely going to cause them and their child to start behind the 8 Ball and be at a disadvantage. I NEVER hear anyone talk about that sans Ben Shapiro.

I will step in and take a shot.

You are missing the point. The point isn't that individual racist people are racist and those people negatively affect black people. The point is that longstanding institutional practices like slavery, Jim Crow, and redlining still have discernible effects on the black populace, with the generational wealth and everything. You are correct that individual people are making bad choices and that we need to make attempts to fix that, but if you believe that just fixing the single parent problem will close the race gap then you would be naive and incorrect. BL, Taint, Wylie, Bob, and I have all proved that even with all other things equal, black people are still at a disadvantage, due to generational wealth, redlining, justice/police systems, and that we hold the poor in general in this country down. You even agreed on this. There is more nuance in this issue than one side or the other, all black people succeeding or all black people failing. If you keep resorting to hyperbole, you will never get the point.

You have proven nothing. I have proven that single parenthood is the #1 problem period.

I have proved 100% that all your theories are false.

There, I answered you.

LOL. I know English is your second language but you really haven’t proven anything.

Even if we agree for the sake of the argument that the number of parents in the household is the number one factor, race is still a big factor when comparing households with he same number of parents. Blacks are at a disadvantage because of racism.

Disadvantaged how?

Black two-parent families earned 87% of what white two-parent families earned. Also distorting the median is the disproportionate number of blacks who live in the South, where wages are lower overall. If you look only at specific areas rather than at the nation as a whole, black household earnings exceeded whites’ in 130 cities and counties across the nation.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/30/2018 10:36:00 AM (view original):
Disadvantaged how?

Black two-parent families earned 87% of what white two-parent families earned. Also distorting the median is the disproportionate number of blacks who live in the South, where wages are lower overall. If you look only at specific areas rather than at the nation as a whole, black household earnings exceeded whites’ in 130 cities and counties across the nation.

Disadvantaged how?

Black two-parent families earn less than white two parent families.

Did you not read what I just posted? Do you not speak English? Black household earnings exceeded whites’ in 130 cities and counties across the nation.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/30/2018 11:15:00 AM (view original):
Did you not read what I just posted? Do you not speak English? Black household earnings exceeded whites’ in 130 cities and counties across the nation.

There are THIRTY SEVEN THOUSAND cities and counties in the US. Pointing out 130 is like saying, “see John Smith is black and a lawyer, must not be any racism.”

Could it possibly be that the difference in average earnings between the two races have to do with the number of people that have college degrees? Don't let logic get in the way, B_L. I've already proven to you that the wage gap narrows drastically when comparing blacks and whites with college degrees. Remember, black women with degrees actually make more than white women with degrees. Once again, I would hate for logic to get in the way for you.

Yes and overall they are at 87%. Considering the generational wealth issue that is not terrible at all. In 50 years it will be close to equal. This stat is also from 1995. I bet there are a lot more counties now.

Facts:
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• Many live in the South and wages in the South are lower for EVERYONE
• 87% is not terrible given the generational wealth issue
• This was 1995 and things have gotten better so it is likely even more now.
• Asians make more than whites. So are Asians advantaged?

Your argument is flawed.

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/30/2018 11:19:00 AM (view original):
Could it possibly be that the difference in average earnings between the two races have to do with the number of people that have college degrees? Don't let logic get in the way, B_L. I've already proven to you that the wage gap narrows drastically when comparing blacks and whites with college degrees. Remember, black women with degrees actually make more than white women with degrees. Once again, I would hate for logic to get in the way for you.

Hmmm I wonder if racism could play a role in someone's access to college?

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/30/2018 11:19:00 AM (view original):
Could it possibly be that the difference in average earnings between the two races have to do with the number of people that have college degrees? Don't let logic get in the way, B_L. I've already proven to you that the wage gap narrows drastically when comparing blacks and whites with college degrees. Remember, black women with degrees actually make more than white women with degrees. Once again, I would hate for logic to get in the way for you.

Right and due to generational wealth some cannot go to the same universities as wealthier white people. OK. But that gap is closing.

Posted by bad_luck on 5/30/2018 11:23:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/30/2018 11:19:00 AM (view original):
Could it possibly be that the difference in average earnings between the two races have to do with the number of people that have college degrees? Don't let logic get in the way, B_L. I've already proven to you that the wage gap narrows drastically when comparing blacks and whites with college degrees. Remember, black women with degrees actually make more than white women with degrees. Once again, I would hate for logic to get in the way for you.

Hmmm I wonder if racism could play a role in someone's access to college?

It is $$$$....colleges are $$$$ driven. Except Harvard. LOL

Nothing to do with race. This is not the 30s. Try again.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/30/2018 11:25:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 5/30/2018 11:23:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/30/2018 11:19:00 AM (view original):
Could it possibly be that the difference in average earnings between the two races have to do with the number of people that have college degrees? Don't let logic get in the way, B_L. I've already proven to you that the wage gap narrows drastically when comparing blacks and whites with college degrees. Remember, black women with degrees actually make more than white women with degrees. Once again, I would hate for logic to get in the way for you.

Hmmm I wonder if racism could play a role in someone's access to college?

It is $$$$....colleges are $$$$ driven. Except Harvard. LOL

Nothing to do with race. This is not the 30s. Try again.

If you grow up poor and you live in a poor neighborhood and you go to a bad, poor school, will that impact your ability to go to college?

Posted by bad_luck on 5/30/2018 11:27:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/30/2018 11:25:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 5/30/2018 11:23:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/30/2018 11:19:00 AM (view original):
Could it possibly be that the difference in average earnings between the two races have to do with the number of people that have college degrees? Don't let logic get in the way, B_L. I've already proven to you that the wage gap narrows drastically when comparing blacks and whites with college degrees. Remember, black women with degrees actually make more than white women with degrees. Once again, I would hate for logic to get in the way for you.

Hmmm I wonder if racism could play a role in someone's access to college?

It is $$$$....colleges are $$$$ driven. Except Harvard. LOL

Nothing to do with race. This is not the 30s. Try again.

If you grow up poor and you live in a poor neighborhood and you go to a bad, poor school, will that impact your ability to go to college?

Yes. Regardless of race. But I think programs exist now to help those persons. In fact recent immigrants from Africa and The Caribbean continually succeed when faced with these situations. Same for Asian immigrants. The key...TWO PARENTS. Also if you have two parents, both of whom graduated HS and have jobs before having a kid, the kid won't be poor.

Thank you again for making my point.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/30/2018 11:22:00 AM (view original):
Yes and overall they are at 87%. Considering the generational wealth issue that is not terrible at all. In 50 years it will be close to equal. This stat is also from 1995. I bet there are a lot more counties now.

Facts:
?

• Many live in the South and wages in the South are lower for EVERYONE
• 87% is not terrible given the generational wealth issue
• This was 1995 and things have gotten better so it is likely even more now.
• Asians make more than whites. So are Asians advantaged?

Your argument is flawed.

It’s not getting closer though. The average black male earned 80% of what an average white male earned in 1979. In 2016, he gap was larger, with the average black male earning 70%.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/30/2018 11:30:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 5/30/2018 11:27:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/30/2018 11:25:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 5/30/2018 11:23:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/30/2018 11:19:00 AM (view original):
Could it possibly be that the difference in average earnings between the two races have to do with the number of people that have college degrees? Don't let logic get in the way, B_L. I've already proven to you that the wage gap narrows drastically when comparing blacks and whites with college degrees. Remember, black women with degrees actually make more than white women with degrees. Once again, I would hate for logic to get in the way for you.

Hmmm I wonder if racism could play a role in someone's access to college?

It is $$$$....colleges are $$$$ driven. Except Harvard. LOL

Nothing to do with race. This is not the 30s. Try again.

If you grow up poor and you live in a poor neighborhood and you go to a bad, poor school, will that impact your ability to go to college?

Yes. Regardless of race. But I think programs exist now to help those persons. In fact recent immigrants from Africa and The Caribbean continually succeed when faced with these situations. Same for Asian immigrants. The key...TWO PARENTS. Also if you have two parents, both of whom graduated HS and have jobs before having a kid, the kid won't be poor.

Thank you again for making my point.

Even if black people do all of those things, they still end up behind white people.

And this is without even talking about the justice system, which is the easiest way to prove institutional racism.