I know. Right!?

Why are we just discussing racism against blacks? What about the racism of blacks? No idea where to look for the numbers, but I'd bet the % of blacks who are racist is much higher than the % of whites. I'd also bet the % of racist whites has decreased much more over the last couple decades than the % of racist blacks. It's kind of hard for any race to say "Yeah, I'm cool with them.", when you have some of them screaming "I hate your black/white guts." in your face. Shouldn't addressing the racism of blacks be part of the discussion on how to make the problem better (it will never be eliminated)?

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So, racism again black people does not make their lives more difficult than the lives of white people?

I'll reiterate

NO! It does not make it any more difficult than that of a fat person. It makes it easier in some instances perhaps. Got it? Dodge ball captain.

But racism in the past made the life of an average black person more difficult than the life of an average white person?

YES! When Jesse Owens had to use a separate entrance. When Jackie Robinson was spit on. When Bill Russell had to stay at different hotels than his teammates. Of course. That was abominable and frankly ridiculous. We are past that. At least in my experience we are past that. Being a Jew and coming from nothing to this country, the last thing I would ever do is be racist against people for something they can't control.

Now are you going to answer me or not? Sheesh.

But there’s still racism. It’s not as bad as before but wouldn’t some racism still make life for an average black person more difficult than the life of an average white person?

So now answer me.

I think it depends. If that black person has two parents I think they have a huge advantage over a white person with one. Asians and Jews are a lot more successful because most have two parents. Its just a stronger family dynamic for some reason. Black people don't have the generational wealth of white people and neither do I btw. So I know that makes it more difficult. But I think we are making great strides and in 50 years we should eliminate that issue. But I really want to understand why the Left refuses to attack the issue of single parenthood.

For example the Cs lost game 7. There are a myriad of reasons why but first and foremost was Rozier going 0-10 from 3 pt range. That to me equates to the single parent issue. Jayson Tatum only took two shots in the 4th quarter...that equates to your racism. Yes, that contributed to the Cs loss but it was #6 or 7 as to why they lost.

Racism is around but it is not the #1 or even #2 or #3 culprit of why there is income inequality in the US.

That is my only point on this. Again even if I am the biggest racist in the world, I have zero impact on a young lady in KY deciding to become a single parent. That is a BAD IDEA and results in that child and herself being behind the 8 ball. I would much rather be a black kid with two parents than a white kid with one from the starting gate.

You keep saying this:

“huge advantage over a white person with one”

And sure, it’s true. But does a black person with two parents have a disadvantage compared to a white person with two parents? The answer is yes.

Because of racism.

Look at Rwanda and Sierra Leone. Racism is not a white man disease. The Left's argument is that a minority cannot be racist.

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Posted by bad_luck on 5/29/2018 1:37:00 PM (view original):
So, racism again black people does not make their lives more difficult than the lives of white people?

I'll reiterate

NO! It does not make it any more difficult than that of a fat person. It makes it easier in some instances perhaps. Got it? Dodge ball captain.

But racism in the past made the life of an average black person more difficult than the life of an average white person?

YES! When Jesse Owens had to use a separate entrance. When Jackie Robinson was spit on. When Bill Russell had to stay at different hotels than his teammates. Of course. That was abominable and frankly ridiculous. We are past that. At least in my experience we are past that. Being a Jew and coming from nothing to this country, the last thing I would ever do is be racist against people for something they can't control.

Now are you going to answer me or not? Sheesh.

But there’s still racism. It’s not as bad as before but wouldn’t some racism still make life for an average black person more difficult than the life of an average white person?

So now answer me.

I think it depends. If that black person has two parents I think they have a huge advantage over a white person with one. Asians and Jews are a lot more successful because most have two parents. Its just a stronger family dynamic for some reason. Black people don't have the generational wealth of white people and neither do I btw. So I know that makes it more difficult. But I think we are making great strides and in 50 years we should eliminate that issue. But I really want to understand why the Left refuses to attack the issue of single parenthood.

For example the Cs lost game 7. There are a myriad of reasons why but first and foremost was Rozier going 0-10 from 3 pt range. That to me equates to the single parent issue. Jayson Tatum only took two shots in the 4th quarter...that equates to your racism. Yes, that contributed to the Cs loss but it was #6 or 7 as to why they lost.

Racism is around but it is not the #1 or even #2 or #3 culprit of why there is income inequality in the US.

That is my only point on this. Again even if I am the biggest racist in the world, I have zero impact on a young lady in KY deciding to become a single parent. That is a BAD IDEA and results in that child and herself being behind the 8 ball. I would much rather be a black kid with two parents than a white kid with one from the starting gate.

You keep saying this:

“huge advantage over a white person with one”

And sure, it’s true. But does a black person with two parents have a disadvantage compared to a white person with two parents? The answer is yes.

Because of racism.

No. It is yes because of PAST racism and lack of generational wealth. That generational wealth helps pay for college, first home, car, etc.

Because of that programs exist to help minorities get into/pay for college. Start with two parents, graduate HS and believe you me, capitalism WILL take care of you. Start with one parent, don't graduate HS and you are well behind. My wife was raised by a single mom because her dad passed away when she was two. They really struggled. Single parenthood is a nightmare. It is even worse now.

None of that precludes acknowledging the role of present day racism in the lives of black people.

They face no more racism than I face anti semitism. It has not precluded me from accomplishing anything. Why do you refuse to acknowledge that single parenthood is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more of a factor than color?

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They face no more racism than I face anti semitism. It has not precluded me from accomplishing anything. Why do you refuse to acknowledge that single parenthood is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more of a factor than color?

I disagree. I think current racism against blacks is more prevalent and more damaging than anti-semitism.

How do you know? You have never faced anti semitism?

Give me one specific criteria where you see this. JUST ONE. So that we can attack this one at a time please. I have posted stats that show that two parent households are better than one. We agree there. Now prove to me that race is a bigger factor than two parent households please. On of my friends names btw is Michael Smith. People don't know he is black until they meet him. They can tell I am Jew without even meeting me based on my name. So at times he has it a bit easier. I am not comparing anti semitism to racism I am just saying that to me that is a smaller factor than a two vs. one parent household argument.

Now please kindly proceed with one criteria at a time.

Thank you

How do you know? You've never faced racism.

I'm basing my opinion on rates of poverty, jail sentencing practices, the fact that cops aren't more afraid of Jewish people than they are of other whites, etc.

Regarding parents in the home, when you compare blacks and whites and control for the number of parents (comparing apples to apples), whites come out ahead.

Barely ahead.

This is from a black Columbia Professor. What are your thoughts please?

Racial profiling is racism. It can be—but just as often isn’t. In some parts of the country, black men are so over represented in criminal activities that police officers, white and black, would be shirking their duty not to concentrate on them. Sure, sometimes profiling ends up detaining more blacks than their rate of conviction for the targeted crime justifies, as with drivers recently stopped and searched for drugs in New Jersey. But even here, officers generally have acted less out of race hatred than out of a pragmatic assessment that they can fill their quotas faster by focusing on a group that commits a disproportionate share of crime. Inappropriate, yes—and widely condemned as such: indication Number 674 that racism is on the wane.

I have always suspected that today’s profiling-must-stop contingent secretly believes that whites deserve black crime as retribution for oppression. But to halt all profiling would increase the number of blacks murdered, mostly by other blacks. And black leaders would cite this rise as further evidence of racism, as happened in New York in the 1980s, when cops turned a blind eye to a wave of black crime. Many of those crying racism about today’s New York City policing were sounding the same call about the Dinkins administration’s lax policing.

Even if racial profiling is rational and without ill-will, it's still the textbook definition of racism. Cops pulling someone over because that person looks like a "criminal" (black person).

And I don't believe that it is always rational or without ill-will.

And it isn't barely. Black single mother have poverty rates above 40% white white single mothers are less than 30%.

You guys are debating idealistic perfection.

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And it isn't barely. Black single mother have poverty rates above 40% white white single mothers are less than 30%.

This figure is dragged down by the disproportionate number of single black welfare mothers. Black two-parent families earned 87% of what white two-parent families earned. Also distorting the median is the disproportionate number of blacks who live in the South, where wages are lower overall. If you look only at specific areas rather than at the nation as a whole, black household earnings exceeded whites’ in 130 cities and counties across the nation.