Posted by gomiami1972 on 5/28/2018 11:51:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/28/2018 11:48:00 AM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 5/28/2018 8:51:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by gomiami1972 on 5/27/2018 9:31:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/27/2018 9:21:00 PM (view original):
Glad to have you on board, gomiami. It's always nice to have some logical thinking for a change.

Appreciate it. I could probably come up with a set of questions that would catapult Syria to the #1 spot. All data is easily manipulated, especially when circular reasoning is employed from the get-go.

OK, so what questions would you ask to gather a true happiness index?

I wouldn't even try. Happiness is an individual state of being. There's no way of measuring it in a collective.

I'm happy, my son is happy but my wife is ****** off. Is the family happy because we win 2 out of 3? Come on...

OK, so taking it in a different direction, how would you define 'success' and 'failure' as pertaining to countries? How do we know who is doing well and who isn't?

That's an excellent question. I'm not sure, to be honest.

Well, if we cannot answer that question, then why do people label socialistic states as failures? (Not trying to be aggressive, just playing devil's advocate)

Seems as though bob agrees with me that this Country is scr*wed until a Major 3rd Party evolves.

Posted by tangplay on 5/28/2018 11:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 5/28/2018 1:21:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/27/2018 9:26:00 PM (view original):
Wylie has been here.

are you implying I am logical?? that's not very nice.

I don't know if it shows, but I typed that in my sarcasm font.

The most logical person on here is Dougout.

I typed that in my sarcasm font too.

You guys rip Doug, but I'm not sure he has had a mean word to say about anyone in these forums. It's quite a shame.

Tang, until you start using more logic, I don't think you have a place to insult anyone on here.

Posted by tangplay on 5/28/2018 11:46:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/28/2018 8:20:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/27/2018 11:44:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/27/2018 9:33:00 PM (view original):
How do you know they're happier? Based on this one report? If they are happier, why are people begging to move to the US?

Who is begging to move to the US? The only Swedish person I know that recently moved to the USA was Zlatan Ibrahimovic and it was against his will.

I'm not sure if you've noticed or not, but the debate over immigration in the US stems from too many people wanting to move in, not from too many people wanting to leave. I never said the Swedes were begging to come, but plenty of people from other countries are. And yeah, I actually have a friend who's a neurosurgeon that moved from Sweden. She had to go through medical school twice.

Other countries, sure, but I doubt from the Nordic ones. You have to prove to me that the Nordic countries are not happy.

BTW, the USA is still 18th, so way above a lot of countries.

They may be happy. Good for them. A lot of people in America are happy too. What I don't understand is why the one's who aren't stay. It makes no sense to me.

By the way, I don't have to prove anything to you in terms of happiness. That is subjective to the individual.

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/28/2018 12:05:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/28/2018 11:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 5/28/2018 1:21:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/27/2018 9:26:00 PM (view original):
Wylie has been here.

are you implying I am logical?? that's not very nice.

I don't know if it shows, but I typed that in my sarcasm font.

The most logical person on here is Dougout.

I typed that in my sarcasm font too.

You guys rip Doug, but I'm not sure he has had a mean word to say about anyone in these forums. It's quite a shame.

Tang, until you start using more logic, I don't think you have a place to insult anyone on here.

Doug is a good guy, I hope. It is all in good fun.

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/28/2018 12:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/28/2018 11:46:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/28/2018 8:20:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/27/2018 11:44:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/27/2018 9:33:00 PM (view original):
How do you know they're happier? Based on this one report? If they are happier, why are people begging to move to the US?

Who is begging to move to the US? The only Swedish person I know that recently moved to the USA was Zlatan Ibrahimovic and it was against his will.

I'm not sure if you've noticed or not, but the debate over immigration in the US stems from too many people wanting to move in, not from too many people wanting to leave. I never said the Swedes were begging to come, but plenty of people from other countries are. And yeah, I actually have a friend who's a neurosurgeon that moved from Sweden. She had to go through medical school twice.

Other countries, sure, but I doubt from the Nordic ones. You have to prove to me that the Nordic countries are not happy.

BTW, the USA is still 18th, so way above a lot of countries.

They may be happy. Good for them. A lot of people in America are happy too. What I don't understand is why the one's who aren't stay. It makes no sense to me.

By the way, I don't have to prove anything to you in terms of happiness. That is subjective to the individual.

How many people immigrate to the USA from Nordic countries per year?

Posted by gomiami1972 on 5/28/2018 11:50:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/28/2018 11:11:00 AM (view original):
I am a Libertarian.

I don't think I am "Right"

I am pro life, I think the 2nd Amendment is outdated and I believe in a $$ cap for CEOs of companies if those companies have layoffs. I don't like tangplay because his rhetoric is racist. Saying "white privilege" really means "black disadvantage" and I find that abhorrent. Saying institutional racism while quoting random stats further promotes this divisive rhetoric. People like dino are equally bad. They preach hatred and if you disagree they redline you. Pathetic. Sounds like communist Russia to me.

They state this rhetoric while having zero knowledge of how finance works, how defense is funded, how our court system works. This is what divides this country and it annoys me. BHO was the worst president for the military in recent memory, maybe ever. He artificially inflated the stock market by keeping rates low, he never addressed entitlements and he lied when he said "HRC was the most qualified candidate ever". Under his watch the hate group BLM rose and police and the people had a horrible relationship. Under his leadership ISIS arose and North Korea became even more of a pariah. Shall we even mention Syria and Russia?

Yet I heard nothing. DJT has been in office for a year and tangplay acts as if he is Attila the Hun. I find that mind boggling and hypocritical.

A traditional libertarian would see themselves as neither left nor right - being designated as one or the other would be laughable and offensive at the same time. Libertarians used to be far left on personal freedom and far right on economic freedom. However, the philosophy has been under assault for the past 20 years or so to the point I hardly recognize it these days. Hence, I now call myself a Classic Liberal. My friends would get a laugh if someone labeled me as a moderate but, considering how extreme the edges have become, I guess it fits.

By the way, Obama can not be the worst President for the military. Woodrow Wilson has that title locked up permanently.

Sorry, I meant to say not pro life but pro choice. LOL

In my opinion capitalism is the way. If I open a restaurant and only allow men then I will go out of business but no one should tell me who I can and can't allow in there. I mean in my lifetime in terms of POTUS.

Posted by tangplay on 5/28/2018 11:54:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/28/2018 11:11:00 AM (view original):
I am a Libertarian.

I don't think I am "Right"

I am pro life, I think the 2nd Amendment is outdated and I believe in a $$ cap for CEOs of companies if those companies have layoffs. I don't like tangplay because his rhetoric is racist. Saying "white privilege" really means "black disadvantage" and I find that abhorrent. Saying institutional racism while quoting random stats further promotes this divisive rhetoric. People like dino are equally bad. They preach hatred and if you disagree they redline you. Pathetic. Sounds like communist Russia to me.

They state this rhetoric while having zero knowledge of how finance works, how defense is funded, how our court system works. This is what divides this country and it annoys me. BHO was the worst president for the military in recent memory, maybe ever. He artificially inflated the stock market by keeping rates low, he never addressed entitlements and he lied when he said "HRC was the most qualified candidate ever". Under his watch the hate group BLM rose and police and the people had a horrible relationship. Under his leadership ISIS arose and North Korea became even more of a pariah. Shall we even mention Syria and Russia?

Yet I heard nothing. DJT has been in office for a year and tangplay acts as if he is Attila the Hun. I find that mind boggling and hypocritical.

BHO:
1. Not the worst pres. for our military. Not even close. He raised their budget.
2. HRC was up there. She was very qualified.
3. He had no control over BLM. He had no control over police.
4. ISIS was not his fault, lol. Bush was the one who planted the seeds for that.
5. OK, I will give you the North Korea one. But Trump hasn't been any better.
6. Syria: not his fault.
7. Russia: OK yeah he should have done better.

You have yet to mention one thing DJT has done that you disagree with. I don't think Trump is even close to the worst Pres of all time, and I don't hate him. He isn't a racist, bigot, antisemite, etc. He is not the smartest guy, though, and I disagree with him as a person and a lot of his ideas.

BTW, if you support Trump on basically everything, you are on the right. Sorry bud. Libertarians tend to be on the right.

And my rhetoric is racist. Yes, black people are at a systematic disadvantage. The rhetoric is only divisive because people like you have your head in the sand and cannot accept fact.

#1) One of my clients is a defense contractor and I quote him. We can agree to disagree and he is a Democrat who lives in MA.
#2) Subjective but Obama hated her.
#3) BS
#4) He pulled out of Iraq its on him. Bush is an idiot too.
#5) Trump has only had one year to BHO's 8.
#6) Whose fault then?
#7) Yep

I have been bashing DJT non stop for not addressing entitlements. What do you mean? I like his rhetoric when it comes to Mexico and agree with his fiscal policies and of course the increased military spend. I question his multiple cabinet changes but he is a newbie politician.

If thats the case why do they dominate the NFL and NBA?

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/28/2018 12:05:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/28/2018 11:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 5/28/2018 1:21:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/27/2018 9:26:00 PM (view original):
Wylie has been here.

are you implying I am logical?? that's not very nice.

I don't know if it shows, but I typed that in my sarcasm font.

The most logical person on here is Dougout.

I typed that in my sarcasm font too.

You guys rip Doug, but I'm not sure he has had a mean word to say about anyone in these forums. It's quite a shame.

Tang, until you start using more logic, I don't think you have a place to insult anyone on here.

I don't rip Doug. I just have no desire to read the stuff he posts. I'm sure he's a very nice guy.

Posted by gomiami1972 on 5/28/2018 12:47:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/28/2018 12:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/28/2018 12:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/28/2018 11:46:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/28/2018 8:20:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/27/2018 11:44:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/27/2018 9:33:00 PM (view original):
How do you know they're happier? Based on this one report? If they are happier, why are people begging to move to the US?

Who is begging to move to the US? The only Swedish person I know that recently moved to the USA was Zlatan Ibrahimovic and it was against his will.

I'm not sure if you've noticed or not, but the debate over immigration in the US stems from too many people wanting to move in, not from too many people wanting to leave. I never said the Swedes were begging to come, but plenty of people from other countries are. And yeah, I actually have a friend who's a neurosurgeon that moved from Sweden. She had to go through medical school twice.

Other countries, sure, but I doubt from the Nordic ones. You have to prove to me that the Nordic countries are not happy.

BTW, the USA is still 18th, so way above a lot of countries.

They may be happy. Good for them. A lot of people in America are happy too. What I don't understand is why the one's who aren't stay. It makes no sense to me.

By the way, I don't have to prove anything to you in terms of happiness. That is subjective to the individual.

How many people immigrate to the USA from Nordic countries per year?

More than Americans immigrate to Scandinavia, lol.

What was the last breakthrough invention that came from the Nordic countries?

If you look at dino's thread it is full of biased hatred and redlining. Should be renamed Pravda.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/28/2018 1:52:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/28/2018 11:54:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/28/2018 11:11:00 AM (view original):
I am a Libertarian.

I don't think I am "Right"

I am pro life, I think the 2nd Amendment is outdated and I believe in a $$ cap for CEOs of companies if those companies have layoffs. I don't like tangplay because his rhetoric is racist. Saying "white privilege" really means "black disadvantage" and I find that abhorrent. Saying institutional racism while quoting random stats further promotes this divisive rhetoric. People like dino are equally bad. They preach hatred and if you disagree they redline you. Pathetic. Sounds like communist Russia to me.

They state this rhetoric while having zero knowledge of how finance works, how defense is funded, how our court system works. This is what divides this country and it annoys me. BHO was the worst president for the military in recent memory, maybe ever. He artificially inflated the stock market by keeping rates low, he never addressed entitlements and he lied when he said "HRC was the most qualified candidate ever". Under his watch the hate group BLM rose and police and the people had a horrible relationship. Under his leadership ISIS arose and North Korea became even more of a pariah. Shall we even mention Syria and Russia?

Yet I heard nothing. DJT has been in office for a year and tangplay acts as if he is Attila the Hun. I find that mind boggling and hypocritical.

BHO:
1. Not the worst pres. for our military. Not even close. He raised their budget.
2. HRC was up there. She was very qualified.
3. He had no control over BLM. He had no control over police.
4. ISIS was not his fault, lol. Bush was the one who planted the seeds for that.
5. OK, I will give you the North Korea one. But Trump hasn't been any better.
6. Syria: not his fault.
7. Russia: OK yeah he should have done better.

You have yet to mention one thing DJT has done that you disagree with. I don't think Trump is even close to the worst Pres of all time, and I don't hate him. He isn't a racist, bigot, antisemite, etc. He is not the smartest guy, though, and I disagree with him as a person and a lot of his ideas.

BTW, if you support Trump on basically everything, you are on the right. Sorry bud. Libertarians tend to be on the right.

And my rhetoric is racist. Yes, black people are at a systematic disadvantage. The rhetoric is only divisive because people like you have your head in the sand and cannot accept fact.

#1) One of my clients is a defense contractor and I quote him. We can agree to disagree and he is a Democrat who lives in MA.
#2) Subjective but Obama hated her.
#3) BS
#4) He pulled out of Iraq its on him. Bush is an idiot too.
#5) Trump has only had one year to BHO's 8.
#6) Whose fault then?
#7) Yep

I have been bashing DJT non stop for not addressing entitlements. What do you mean? I like his rhetoric when it comes to Mexico and agree with his fiscal policies and of course the increased military spend. I question his multiple cabinet changes but he is a newbie politician.

If thats the case why do they dominate the NFL and NBA?

Okay, tell us how Obama controlled BLM and/or the police?
You keep bringing up the NFL and the NBA as evidence that blacks are not at a disadvantage. The NFL and the NBA are extremely small segments of the population, and are not a realistic reflection of society. There are a lot of blacks in the NFL and the NBA because those specific Black men are tall and/or fast and have athletic talent. If a Mexican had the same talent as LeBron, you can bet your *** he'd be in the NBA or NFL. (I Think James would be a star in the NFL too if he had gone in that direction)

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/28/2018 1:53:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 5/28/2018 12:47:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/28/2018 12:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/28/2018 12:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/28/2018 11:46:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by tangplay on 5/27/2018 11:44:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/27/2018 9:33:00 PM (view original):
How do you know they're happier? Based on this one report? If they are happier, why are people begging to move to the US?

Who is begging to move to the US? The only Swedish person I know that recently moved to the USA was Zlatan Ibrahimovic and it was against his will.

I'm not sure if you've noticed or not, but the debate over immigration in the US stems from too many people wanting to move in, not from too many people wanting to leave. I never said the Swedes were begging to come, but plenty of people from other countries are. And yeah, I actually have a friend who's a neurosurgeon that moved from Sweden. She had to go through medical school twice.

Other countries, sure, but I doubt from the Nordic ones. You have to prove to me that the Nordic countries are not happy.

BTW, the USA is still 18th, so way above a lot of countries.

They may be happy. Good for them. A lot of people in America are happy too. What I don't understand is why the one's who aren't stay. It makes no sense to me.

By the way, I don't have to prove anything to you in terms of happiness. That is subjective to the individual.

How many people immigrate to the USA from Nordic countries per year?

More than Americans immigrate to Scandinavia, lol.

What was the last breakthrough invention that came from the Nordic countries?

IKEA invented cheap dressers that crush small children. Does that count?