I trust you. I didn't research it. I'm not sure if you know this or not, but if you look at SS as an investment, what would the average return be? I'm curious what the average return is if you take disability out and only look at retirement benefits only.

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really? are you comparing rape and child beating to kneeling for the anthem? That's pretty stupid.

I am saying its stupid for millionaires to complain about anything.

And you and Strikeout moan about a potential tax increase for millionaires? Hypocrite much?

Don't lump my name into this. You obviously don't understand personal finance well enough to talk about tax hikes on the rich, so you may want to avoid that subject. Heck, you didn't even realize that in some states, they pay as much as 60% in taxes already.

Way to avoid the obvious hypocrisy.

Please explain. I never said millionaires have nothing to complain about. You just have this envy against the successful. It's pretty screwed up.

OK, then for you it isn't hypocritical. Just wrong. lol. I don't envy anyone. I love my life and my job.

First off, what's wrong? You admitted that 60% is too much. Are you forgetful or a liar? Second, for someone who's not jealous, you sure do complain about the wealthy and their money a lot.

You have yet to prove that the tax rate is 60% in some places. I will believe it when I see it. (Also I was referring to the envy part)

I have never complained that rich people have money, and I rarely complain about income gaps. I don't care that people are rich. I care when rich people get systemic advantages to basic human rights over others, and I care about this countries economy and well being.

https://taxfoundation.org/2017-tax-brackets/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fool.com/amp/taxes/2017/04/27/2017-california-income-tax-what-you-need-to-know.aspx

Top federal rate for people making over $400,000 is 39.6%. CA top rate is 13.3%. That puts you at 52.9%. Now tack on local taxes. That puts people making $500M+ right at about 60%.

I'm not sure why I had to prove this. It's really easy to look up.

LOL...you don't understand how state taxes work do you? those taxes are deductible on the federal level. So are the local... it's easy to look up.

Well, they were...under Trump who wants to **** the blue states because they didnt vote for him..it's different. Not sure how much.

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Also, I think it is a little funny that the same people who hate PC culture and try to 'troll' the liberal 'snowflakes' get so butthurt over players kneeling. Do you need a safe space? lol.

Butthurt? Its disrespectful. The anthem is a military salute. And don't say it is not because they always come out with color guard and military personnel. Then again you're a pacifist so why do you even care about the military? If you saw two hooligans beating a stray dog you would just yell at them and not intervene. Coward. I don't care what players do btw. If you love America so much, why do you want to eliminate the Electoral College? Lastly, Trump's rating was poor before the election too. It did not matter.

It’s disrespectful to do a lot of non-PC things.

The anthem is not a military salute. It’s an anthem.

Really? Then why do they say "Please stand as we honor those who served and our nations colors?"

Your leftist views are insane

Because the US government pays them to. My son’s little league had a girl come sing the national anthem. No one said anything about the military.

Did you just compare pro sports to little league? Seriously?

Don't forget, B_L lives in the state that hates America and has threatened to secede. The military is honored all the time during youth sports in more patriotic parts of the country.

Texas among others, threatened to secede under Obama...are they non-patriotic?

DENVER — It’s traditional for Americans to threaten to move to France or Canada when their candidate loses, but this year some disappointed voters are implementing a different plan.

In the wake of the Nov. 6 election, petitions seeking to secede from the union have been filed on behalf of 23 states on the White House website, https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions. Most of the petitions contain the same wording and ask to withdraw “peacefully” from the United States in order to form independent governments.

Critics describe the effort as a bit of an overreaction. “Anyone who wants their state to secede from the union is someone whose brain has already seceded from their body,” said John Andrews, director of the conservative Centennial Institute at Colorado Christian University.

Still, the White House may have to take the requests seriously. According to the website, any petition receiving 25,000 online “signatures” on the “We the People” page within 30 days of posting will receive a review by the appropriate executive department and a response from a White House staffer.

As of Monday, the Texas petition had already exceeded the 25,000-signature threshold, and the Louisiana petition was fast approaching the cutoff with more than 18,000 signatures. Most of the petitions were posted online Nov. 10, which means they have until Dec. 10 to qualify for a response.

Yeah, I know, but I just a hatred for CA. It's kind of unfair of me as I have never lived there, but oh well.

Ignorance is what it's called.


Has nothing to do with being "unfair", you don't know dick about what you're talking about.

It is ignorance. " I have never lived there" equals ignorant about CA. Pretty sure I just admitted that.

If you're going to admit about being ignorant about something, just STFU about it. You're not helping because you don't know jack ****.

Yeah, I understand the SALT deduction. It was bullshit. I don't believe we should have any deductions.

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You have yet to prove that the tax rate is 60% in some places. I will believe it when I see it. (Also I was referring to the envy part)

I have never complained that rich people have money, and I rarely complain about income gaps. I don't care that people are rich. I care when rich people get systemic advantages to basic human rights over others, and I care about this countries economy and well being.

There's no places in the country that the tax rates are that high. NONe.

I know CA is a liberal state that ******* and moans way too much. I know that much.

Also, if the lefties can stereotype the south, I have every right to stereotype the west. You guys do the same **** and know nothing about this part of the country. Stop being a hypocrite.

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You have yet to prove that the tax rate is 60% in some places. I will believe it when I see it. (Also I was referring to the envy part)

I have never complained that rich people have money, and I rarely complain about income gaps. I don't care that people are rich. I care when rich people get systemic advantages to basic human rights over others, and I care about this countries economy and well being.

There's no places in the country that the tax rates are that high. NONe.

Come man. Don't play stupid. 39.6%+13.3%+local taxes. You can do simple math.

I was talking about the income tax.

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https://taxfoundation.org/2017-tax-brackets/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fool.com/amp/taxes/2017/04/27/2017-california-income-tax-what-you-need-to-know.aspx

Right, so the upper limit is 40%. Exactly what I have been saying.