Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 5:16:00 PM (view original):
Prior racism yes. Just as Jews are from the Holocaust. They lost all their wealth as well and had to rebuild. They are just a generation ahead. In 25 years the black community will be much better off.

Are you ever going to answer my question or is this a one way conversation? And you wonder why people on these boards think you are a terrible person? Stop being rude.

Your question regarding single parent households? Yeah, it's because a single parent household is a big disadvantage. So what?

Whites from two parent households do better than blacks from two parent households.

Are you familiar with the middle class success sequence? (graduate high school, get a full time job, don't have kids before 21)

Yes, I've been preaching it 4ever. So maybe we can take a step closer by pushing the two parent household.

Do whites have a competitive advantage over Asians? Asians are the highest earners in the US.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 5:33:00 PM (view original):
Yes, I've been preaching it 4ever. So maybe we can take a step closer by pushing the two parent household.

Do whites have a competitive advantage over Asians? Asians are the highest earners in the US.

You've been preaching the middle class success sequence forever?

Ask your friend Tangplay. Yes.

Posted by bad_luck on 5/9/2018 5:38:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 5:33:00 PM (view original):
Yes, I've been preaching it 4ever. So maybe we can take a step closer by pushing the two parent household.

Do whites have a competitive advantage over Asians? Asians are the highest earners in the US.

You've been preaching the middle class success sequence forever?

Less middle class more "you won't be poor" template. I think the middle class operational definition is skewed.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 5:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 5/9/2018 5:38:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 5:33:00 PM (view original):
Yes, I've been preaching it 4ever. So maybe we can take a step closer by pushing the two parent household.

Do whites have a competitive advantage over Asians? Asians are the highest earners in the US.

You've been preaching the middle class success sequence forever?

Less middle class more "you won't be poor" template. I think the middle class operational definition is skewed.

Ok, either way, would you say that, since you think there is no white privilege, blacks and whites who hit all three markers would enjoy, on average, the same amount of success?

If they come from the same level of generational wealth, have the same # of parents, same education. Yes.

You again ignored me. Asians make more than whites. Is there Asian privilege?

So there are lots of factors that go into success, right?

Is it possible that just being black, when everything else is controlled for, is a disadvantage?

Are you not going to answer me again? You are such a child.

So you're saying there is black disadvantage not white privilege?

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 5:51:00 PM (view original):
Are you not going to answer me again? You are such a child.

So you're saying there is black disadvantage not white privilege?

It's a non-sequitur. I don't have an answer as to why Asians are so successful. I definitely wouldn't argue that whites are disadvantaged, even compared directly to Asians, based on the overall success of whites.

Are you going to address this:

The Sarasota Herald Tribune investigated sentencing in Florida and found:

African-American defendants get more time behind bars — sometimes twice the prison terms of whites with identical criminal histories — when they commit the same crimes under identical circumstances. It also shows how bias on the part of individual judges and prosecutors drives sentencing inequity.

This is from joint research by the University of South Carolina and Michigan State:

Although there were negligible differences among the racial groups in how frequently boys committed crimes, white boys were less likely to spend time in a facility than black and Hispanic boys

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 4:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 4:18:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:02:00 PM (view original):
Wait. I just told you that I got the interview but not the job. Is that not equalizing opportunity and not outcomes?

No.

Then what do you consider that?

Equalizing outcomes. Getting the interview is an outcome.

It is? Isn't getting the job an outcome? Anyone can get an interview at Home Depot. Just apply.

No, getting an interview is an outcome. Not everyone gets an interview.

Posted by bad_luck on 5/9/2018 5:38:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 5:33:00 PM (view original):
Yes, I've been preaching it 4ever. So maybe we can take a step closer by pushing the two parent household.

Do whites have a competitive advantage over Asians? Asians are the highest earners in the US.

You've been preaching the middle class success sequence forever?

Jesus, hell yeah he has, and I disproved him wrong (HINT: Just point out the million people who do that and are still poor and the 30 million who do that and don't even get to the middle class.)

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 7:26:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 4:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 4:18:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 3:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:02:00 PM (view original):
Wait. I just told you that I got the interview but not the job. Is that not equalizing opportunity and not outcomes?

No.

Then what do you consider that?

Equalizing outcomes. Getting the interview is an outcome.

It is? Isn't getting the job an outcome? Anyone can get an interview at Home Depot. Just apply.

No, getting an interview is an outcome. Not everyone gets an interview.

What is an opportunity then?

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 7:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 5/9/2018 5:38:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 5:33:00 PM (view original):
Yes, I've been preaching it 4ever. So maybe we can take a step closer by pushing the two parent household.

Do whites have a competitive advantage over Asians? Asians are the highest earners in the US.

You've been preaching the middle class success sequence forever?

Jesus, hell yeah he has, and I disproved him wrong (HINT: Just point out the million people who do that and are still poor and the 30 million who do that and don't even get to the middle class.)

No you didn't 1 million is not that many in a country of 330 mil. No country is perfect as I proved to you. You're dumb. I am glad you declared yourself the winner. Captain Leftist.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 8:39:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 7:26:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 4:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 4:18:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 3:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:02:00 PM (view original):
Wait. I just told you that I got the interview but not the job. Is that not equalizing opportunity and not outcomes?

No.

Then what do you consider that?

Equalizing outcomes. Getting the interview is an outcome.

It is? Isn't getting the job an outcome? Anyone can get an interview at Home Depot. Just apply.

No, getting an interview is an outcome. Not everyone gets an interview.

What is an opportunity then?

Getting considered for the interview based on individual qualities rather than race. Employer chooses the best candidate.