Trump: Worst President Ever? Topic

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Posted by bad_luck on 4/25/2018 7:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 4/25/2018 6:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 4/25/2018 6:27:00 PM (view original):
Trump's shtick is rarely telling the truth? That's not the shtick I want my president to have.
When did Obama tell the truth? Was he you're president?

Trump's shtick is negotiating, and it appears to be working in North Korea.
Obama was honest.
Big oil bad! = Biggest oil boom in is history
Big business bad! = 400% market growth
guns bad! = Over 100,000,000 guns sold
Rich People bad! = ONLY the wealthy saw their wealth grow under Obama (and by double digits)

What was Obama honest about?
4/25/2018 10:59 PM
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Posted by moy23 on 4/25/2018 11:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 4/25/2018 7:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 4/25/2018 6:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 4/25/2018 6:27:00 PM (view original):
Trump's shtick is rarely telling the truth? That's not the shtick I want my president to have.
When did Obama tell the truth? Was he you're president?

Trump's shtick is negotiating, and it appears to be working in North Korea.
Obama was honest.
Big oil bad! = Biggest oil boom in is history
Big business bad! = 400% market growth
guns bad! = Over 100,000,000 guns sold
Rich People bad! = ONLY the wealthy saw their wealth grow under Obama (and by double digits)

What was Obama honest about?
Were those lies, or failures of the presidency?
4/25/2018 11:19 PM
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I'm hardly wealthy and my bottom line grew hugely under Obama.
4/25/2018 11:20 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 4/25/2018 7:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 4/25/2018 6:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 4/25/2018 6:27:00 PM (view original):
Trump's shtick is rarely telling the truth? That's not the shtick I want my president to have.
When did Obama tell the truth? Was he you're president?

Trump's shtick is negotiating, and it appears to be working in North Korea.
Obama was honest.
no politician is honest. It comes with the territory. I thought Obama was more honest than most. At least he didn't say one thing one day and then two days later say the exact opposite.
4/25/2018 11:36 PM
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I think it's cute when Wylie pretends he doesn't read my posts.
4/26/2018 4:38 AM
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Posted by moy23 on 4/25/2018 11:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 4/25/2018 7:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 4/25/2018 6:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 4/25/2018 6:27:00 PM (view original):
Trump's shtick is rarely telling the truth? That's not the shtick I want my president to have.
When did Obama tell the truth? Was he you're president?

Trump's shtick is negotiating, and it appears to be working in North Korea.
Obama was honest.
Big oil bad! = Biggest oil boom in is history
Big business bad! = 400% market growth
guns bad! = Over 100,000,000 guns sold
Rich People bad! = ONLY the wealthy saw their wealth grow under Obama (and by double digits)

What was Obama honest about?
I don’t see how any of those are lies.

Saying that something is bad is an opinion.
4/26/2018 11:28 AM
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Posted by wylie715 on 4/25/2018 11:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 4/25/2018 7:30:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 4/25/2018 6:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 4/25/2018 6:27:00 PM (view original):
Trump's shtick is rarely telling the truth? That's not the shtick I want my president to have.
When did Obama tell the truth? Was he you're president?

Trump's shtick is negotiating, and it appears to be working in North Korea.
Obama was honest.
no politician is honest. It comes with the territory. I thought Obama was more honest than most. At least he didn't say one thing one day and then two days later say the exact opposite.
There’s an adjusted standard for presidents in particular. They can’t always say what they think for various reasons—national security, diplomacy, general politics, etc.

But, for each of the handful of times Obama wasn’t completely transparent, Trump has 30,000 lies of various consequence.
4/26/2018 11:51 AM
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But, for every hunnert fireside tweets Trump gives us, Oblama gave us a big old thirty minute well edited well massaged well redacted borefest
4/26/2018 12:27 PM
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Posted by bagchucker on 4/26/2018 12:27:00 PM (view original):
But, for every hunnert fireside tweets Trump gives us, Oblama gave us a big old thirty minute well edited well massaged well redacted borefest
True. Obama was boring. But, for example, think back to the ACA town hall in 2009. He took questions and spoke extensively on the topic for over an hour. Here’s no way Trump could do that. Trump can ramble for an hour and make **** up and scream lock her up, but talk about policy details? No way. Trump’s an idiot.
4/26/2018 1:07 PM
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the safety pyramid

the smarter and older people are, the more they wear their helmets and seat belts

the idiot won the election

its time for dems and libs to take off their helmets and seatbelts
4/26/2018 1:12 PM
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Posted by bagchucker on 4/26/2018 1:13:00 PM (view original):
the safety pyramid

the smarter and older people are, the more they wear their helmets and seat belts

the idiot won the election

its time for dems and libs to take off their helmets and seatbelts
No way. Trump was an anomaly. 2020 election will replace him with a boring dem senator.
4/26/2018 1:29 PM
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Where is our man with three names to clean this up?
4/26/2018 1:41 PM
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IT IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE PREVENT ALL UNSAFE ACTS
4/26/2018 1:53 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 4/26/2018 1:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bagchucker on 4/26/2018 1:13:00 PM (view original):
the safety pyramid

the smarter and older people are, the more they wear their helmets and seat belts

the idiot won the election

its time for dems and libs to take off their helmets and seatbelts
No way. Trump was an anomaly. 2020 election will replace him with a boring dem senator.
I hope you are right, but I wouldn't place any bets on it.
4/26/2018 2:08 PM
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Posted by wylie715 on 4/26/2018 2:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 4/26/2018 1:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bagchucker on 4/26/2018 1:13:00 PM (view original):
the safety pyramid

the smarter and older people are, the more they wear their helmets and seat belts

the idiot won the election

its time for dems and libs to take off their helmets and seatbelts
No way. Trump was an anomaly. 2020 election will replace him with a boring dem senator.
I hope you are right, but I wouldn't place any bets on it.
It's going to come down to the economy. Period.
4/26/2018 3:08 PM
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