https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000004715581/obama-to-trump-stop-whining.html

I forgot about this. It shows the true hypocrisy of the left. I cracked up laughing when I ran across it again.

That is pretty funny.

Here is one on the other side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Q8Nm4ksVU

is it fair to say that true hypocrisy is an oxymoron.
i actually think there has been a minimal amount of whining about the election result..clinton understandably whined a bit but where was the whining elswhere...i didnt hear it.....i think the dems took it like adults.
thats how i see that..we wined and dined.

Yeah, that probably is an oxymoron, but I think you know what I was implying.

I would have to disagree. The dem's have done nothing but complain about the results of the election. It has been said many times that Trump won because of Russian interference.

The truth of the matter is that both parties ran terrible candidates. The republicans just happened to run a candidate a little less terrible according to the American voters. The reason that we had two poor options make it out of a primary is because Americans love drama. There wasn't any drama around Bernie, Kasich, or Carson.

Tang, I'm not going to watch a 10 minute video. I believe in climate change. I'm not sure the extent that humans play in this, but they definitely play a role and we have a responsibility to be good stewards of the earth.

Another reason Trump won was simply because it was the Republicans turn. It's just the way it works. We haven't had the same party win back to back elections since Reagan/Bush and before that, if you exclude death or resignation while in office, you have to go back to Hoover.

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/15/2018 9:52:00 PM (view original):
Tang, I'm not going to watch a 10 minute video. I believe in climate change. I'm not sure the extent that humans play in this, but they definitely play a role and we have a responsibility to be good stewards of the earth.

Boom. Agreed. The point was that both sides are hypocritical :)

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/15/2018 10:04:00 PM (view original):
Another reason Trump won was simply because it was the Republicans turn. It's just the way it works. We haven't had the same party win back to back elections since Reagan/Bush and before that, if you exclude death or resignation while in office, you have to go back to Hoover.

So it is Dem's turn to win the midterms?

this is a theory but i think that the russians enlisted and worked with jill stein..she had a major impact..we cant quantify the r=effect of russian bots and ads and hacks had..it is not possible but i dont agree that it is a fact that they did not help.

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/15/2018 9:50:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, that probably is an oxymoron, but I think you know what I was implying.

I would have to disagree. The dem's have done nothing but complain about the results of the election. It has been said many times that Trump won because of Russian interference.

The truth of the matter is that both parties ran terrible candidates. The republicans just happened to run a candidate a little less terrible according to the American voters. The reason that we had two poor options make it out of a primary is because Americans love drama. There wasn't any drama around Bernie, Kasich, or Carson.

It may have been won because of Russian interference....not to mention the New York office of the FBI. All of that certainly did HRC no favors.

The electoral college decided the election, not the American people. If it was a popular vote of American people, HRC would be leading us.

Bernie had plenty of drama(within the party) and Carson(falsehoods and unproveable anecdotes) had plenty of drama.

Kasich was the best candidate.

Agreed. I would have voted for Kasich in a heartbeat. Or Sanders.

Posted by tangplay on 3/15/2018 10:45:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/15/2018 9:52:00 PM (view original):
Tang, I'm not going to watch a 10 minute video. I believe in climate change. I'm not sure the extent that humans play in this, but they definitely play a role and we have a responsibility to be good stewards of the earth.

Boom. Agreed. The point was that both sides are hypocritical :)

Of course.

Posted by tangplay on 3/15/2018 10:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/15/2018 10:04:00 PM (view original):
Another reason Trump won was simply because it was the Republicans turn. It's just the way it works. We haven't had the same party win back to back elections since Reagan/Bush and before that, if you exclude death or resignation while in office, you have to go back to Hoover.

So it is Dem's turn to win the midterms?

The dems will definitely take the house. Looking at some of the data, the republicans may actually pick up a few seats in the senate.

Posted by The Taint on 3/15/2018 11:12:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/15/2018 9:50:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, that probably is an oxymoron, but I think you know what I was implying.

I would have to disagree. The dem's have done nothing but complain about the results of the election. It has been said many times that Trump won because of Russian interference.

The truth of the matter is that both parties ran terrible candidates. The republicans just happened to run a candidate a little less terrible according to the American voters. The reason that we had two poor options make it out of a primary is because Americans love drama. There wasn't any drama around Bernie, Kasich, or Carson.

It may have been won because of Russian interference....not to mention the New York office of the FBI. All of that certainly did HRC no favors.

The electoral college decided the election, not the American people. If it was a popular vote of American people, HRC would be leading us.

Bernie had plenty of drama(within the party) and Carson(falsehoods and unproveable anecdotes) had plenty of drama.

Kasich was the best candidate.

The American people decided the election. If we didn't have the electoral college, smaller, more rural areas wouldn't have much of a voice. Big cities would decide every election.

Also, when I say drama, I mean potential criminal activity. I think Bernie is an idiot who lives in this little utopia and would have been terrible for the country, but he's a pretty honest fellow. As far as Carson, a comment about the pyramids at a commencement speech 20 years ago isn't very dramatic.

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/16/2018 8:21:00 AM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 3/15/2018 11:12:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/15/2018 9:50:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, that probably is an oxymoron, but I think you know what I was implying.

I would have to disagree. The dem's have done nothing but complain about the results of the election. It has been said many times that Trump won because of Russian interference.

The truth of the matter is that both parties ran terrible candidates. The republicans just happened to run a candidate a little less terrible according to the American voters. The reason that we had two poor options make it out of a primary is because Americans love drama. There wasn't any drama around Bernie, Kasich, or Carson.

It may have been won because of Russian interference....not to mention the New York office of the FBI. All of that certainly did HRC no favors.

The electoral college decided the election, not the American people. If it was a popular vote of American people, HRC would be leading us.

Bernie had plenty of drama(within the party) and Carson(falsehoods and unproveable anecdotes) had plenty of drama.

Kasich was the best candidate.

The American people decided the election. If we didn't have the electoral college, smaller, more rural areas wouldn't have much of a voice. Big cities would decide every election.

Also, when I say drama, I mean potential criminal activity. I think Bernie is an idiot who lives in this little utopia and would have been terrible for the country, but he's a pretty honest fellow. As far as Carson, a comment about the pyramids at a commencement speech 20 years ago isn't very dramatic.

Is that a bad thing? Rjght now some people's votes count more than others simply because of where they live. That is an injustice in my eyes.