Posted by DougOut on 1/4/2018 5:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/4/2018 4:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 1/4/2018 4:57:00 PM (view original):
I know there's another Ice Age coming.

We are in an Ice Age.

We're in a warming period. North Africa turned from pasture to desert. Buy property on the equator. I get 3%.

"we are in an interglacial period—the Holocene—of the ice age. The ice age began 2.6 million years ago at the start of the Pleistocene epoch, because the Greenland, Arctic, and Antarctic ice sheets still exist."

Posted by DougOut on 1/4/2018 5:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/4/2018 5:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 1/4/2018 5:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/4/2018 4:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 1/4/2018 11:24:00 AM (view original):
Trump-haters were expecting record lows over the summer?
Pretty sure last week, coupled with next week, will close greatly close that 3-1 gap being touted last page, and we still have the 2 coldest months of Winter remaining ahead.
Again, just another thing for those haters to try to criticize Trump about, that makes them look like raving loons.

95% of scientists are liberal Trump hating trolls. Everyone at NASA is too.

And IF there is Global Warming (not Global Extremes), it just started last January?
Where was all the Liberal outcry about it the 8 years before then? Freakin' hypocrites raving again.

People have known about this since the early 2000's.

The GOP is the real problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Q8Nm4ksVU

NOBODY CLICKS ON BLACK LINKS

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/4/2018 5:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/4/2018 5:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 1/4/2018 5:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/4/2018 4:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 1/4/2018 11:24:00 AM (view original):
Trump-haters were expecting record lows over the summer?
Pretty sure last week, coupled with next week, will close greatly close that 3-1 gap being touted last page, and we still have the 2 coldest months of Winter remaining ahead.
Again, just another thing for those haters to try to criticize Trump about, that makes them look like raving loons.

95% of scientists are liberal Trump hating trolls. Everyone at NASA is too.

And IF there is Global Warming (not Global Extremes), it just started last January?
Where was all the Liberal outcry about it the 8 years before then? Freakin' hypocrites raving again.

People have known about this since the early 2000's.

The GOP is the real problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Q8Nm4ksVU

ha ha ha ha wow you are truly a mentally ill person.

Why am I mentally ill. Isn't it 'logical' to assume that because the GOP all changed their views on climate in 2008 has something to do with how they made climate a partisan issue and spread misinformation?

Posted by all3 on 1/4/2018 5:26:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/4/2018 5:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/4/2018 5:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 1/4/2018 5:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/4/2018 4:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 1/4/2018 11:24:00 AM (view original):
Trump-haters were expecting record lows over the summer?
Pretty sure last week, coupled with next week, will close greatly close that 3-1 gap being touted last page, and we still have the 2 coldest months of Winter remaining ahead.
Again, just another thing for those haters to try to criticize Trump about, that makes them look like raving loons.

95% of scientists are liberal Trump hating trolls. Everyone at NASA is too.

And IF there is Global Warming (not Global Extremes), it just started last January?
Where was all the Liberal outcry about it the 8 years before then? Freakin' hypocrites raving again.

People have known about this since the early 2000's.

The GOP is the real problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Q8Nm4ksVU

ha ha ha ha wow you are truly a mentally ill person.

Come on, he makes perfect sense - when the Dems were in charge it was the Repubs fault nothing was done, and now that the Repubs are in charge it's still their fault. It's called Republican hypocrisy - HRC is the Queen of it and obviously a very good teacher.

You clearly did not watch the video. The video displays many members of the Republican party changing their views on climate around 2008.

anyone who thinks anything they post here is going to change someone's mind is mentally ill.

You changed my mind.

tagplay you are mentally ill because:

1. You believe there is white privilege.
2. You believe that poor people should be able to have kids even if they cannot afford him.
3. You believe that we should all be pacifists and pray for world peace. AKA if a burglar breaks into your house you would rather pray than defend yourself.
4. You opine on global warming when you do not know anything about it.
5. You believe that Palestine is a place of peace.
6. You believe that Islam is a religion of peace.

Shall I go on?

Mentally ill.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/4/2018 7:09:00 PM (view original):
tagplay you are mentally ill because:

1. You believe there is white privilege.
2. You believe that poor people should be able to have kids even if they cannot afford him.
3. You believe that we should all be pacifists and pray for world peace. AKA if a burglar breaks into your house you would rather pray than defend yourself.
4. You opine on global warming when you do not know anything about it.
5. You believe that Palestine is a place of peace.
6. You believe that Islam is a religion of peace.

Shall I go on?

Mentally ill.

1. Yep. I posted plenty of stats and other arguments and you just basically called me an idiot and made ridiculous oversimplified statements and hyperbole.
2. I believe that poor people have that right, yes.
3. Soooo all practicing Christians are mentally ill?
4. I know more about it than you ever will. I care extremely deeply about the subject and my thoughts on it reflect that.
5. I never said that.
6. I retreated that statement after you proved me incorrect.

Posted by tangplay on 1/4/2018 7:47:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/4/2018 7:09:00 PM (view original):
tagplay you are mentally ill because:

1. You believe there is white privilege.
2. You believe that poor people should be able to have kids even if they cannot afford him.
3. You believe that we should all be pacifists and pray for world peace. AKA if a burglar breaks into your house you would rather pray than defend yourself.
4. You opine on global warming when you do not know anything about it.
5. You believe that Palestine is a place of peace.
6. You believe that Islam is a religion of peace.

Shall I go on?

Mentally ill.

1. Yep. I posted plenty of stats and other arguments and you just basically called me an idiot and made ridiculous oversimplified statements and hyperbole.
2. I believe that poor people have that right, yes.
3. Soooo all practicing Christians are mentally ill?
4. I know more about it than you ever will. I care extremely deeply about the subject and my thoughts on it reflect that.
5. I never said that.
6. I retreated that statement after you proved me incorrect.

1) You did not. I POSTED the stats. That proved you wrong and asked you to list examples of racism. You listed something for 1997. Mentally ill.
2) And not be able to pay for them. So I should have had 4 kids when we can only afford 2? Mentally ill.
3) Nope but you do not speak for all and the fact that you think you do makes you mentally ill.
4) You are a writer and not a good one. You are not a scientist. You don't know anything and neither do I. But because you think you do. Well you are mentally ill.
5) You did and called them a "democracy". You are forgetful and mentally ill.
6) You did? Then I apologize but you still want them coming to the US....making you....MENTALLY ILL!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrxZRuL65wQ

cut and paste it.

Posted by wylie715 on 1/4/2018 6:13:00 PM (view original):
anyone who thinks anything they post here is going to change someone's mind is mentally ill.

You change my mind as well. Hmmmm....

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/4/2018 8:52:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/4/2018 7:47:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/4/2018 7:09:00 PM (view original):
tagplay you are mentally ill because:

1. You believe there is white privilege.
2. You believe that poor people should be able to have kids even if they cannot afford him.
3. You believe that we should all be pacifists and pray for world peace. AKA if a burglar breaks into your house you would rather pray than defend yourself.
4. You opine on global warming when you do not know anything about it.
5. You believe that Palestine is a place of peace.
6. You believe that Islam is a religion of peace.

Shall I go on?

Mentally ill.

1. Yep. I posted plenty of stats and other arguments and you just basically called me an idiot and made ridiculous oversimplified statements and hyperbole.
2. I believe that poor people have that right, yes.
3. Soooo all practicing Christians are mentally ill?
4. I know more about it than you ever will. I care extremely deeply about the subject and my thoughts on it reflect that.
5. I never said that.
6. I retreated that statement after you proved me incorrect.

1) You did not. I POSTED the stats. That proved you wrong and asked you to list examples of racism. You listed something for 1997. Mentally ill.
2) And not be able to pay for them. So I should have had 4 kids when we can only afford 2? Mentally ill.
3) Nope but you do not speak for all and the fact that you think you do makes you mentally ill.
4) You are a writer and not a good one. You are not a scientist. You don't know anything and neither do I. But because you think you do. Well you are mentally ill.
5) You did and called them a "democracy". You are forgetful and mentally ill.
6) You did? Then I apologize but you still want them coming to the US....making you....MENTALLY ILL!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrxZRuL65wQ

cut and paste it.

1. I would like a link of stats from you, I must have missed it. I would strongly suggest looking over the things I posted along the way, I can re-link them if you need. I listed a specific case of institutional racism (redlining) that still deeply affects the way that people live. It really doesn't get much simpler than that. White privilege goes beyond 'this person specifically was affected' and I don't think you understand that. I also don't think you bothered to read ANYTHING I posted over maybe 1 or 2 paragraphs.
2. There are certain limits of course. I was talking about the rights to perhaps having 1 or 2 kids. I never pretended to have a solution, because I know it's impractical in this case, and I know it's illogical in this case, and I know I am a logical person. However I just cannot bring myself to agree that poor people should not have kids. So basically I don't know. And unlike you I don't pretend to know.
3. I don't speak for all. Jesus does. I relay the teachings of Jesus to you. The fact that strikeout (The only other truly vocal Christian here) agrees with me on this means that I am fairly confident in my being right. You don't understand Christianity. Don't pretend to. Let's agree to disagree.
4. Oh no, I don't know anything about climate science. What I do know is that 95% of scientists agree with me. So does NASA. I am pretty confident in that, and I have passionate issues on the subject, and my views are backed by knowledge I have gained by reading up on the issue.
5 and 6. Well, then if I did I retract my statement. You made some good points and I agree with you, however you are wrong if you state that all Palestinians are dangerous. Radicalism is NOT terrorism, as your own resource said. Thus, I now believe that Islam-sponsored states are flawed, but most Islamic people are just people.

Ben Shapiro video-
About 10 minutes in, he has just started to make arguments on things that I actually argued about. So here are his arguments and my responses.

Crime (Arguments relating to mine):

• More white people are killed than black people - true but there are more white people. Now onto percentages.
• Whites more likely to be killed on percentage basis - Blacks are less than 13% of the U.S. population, and yet they are 31% of all fatal police shooting victims, and 39% of those killed by police even though they weren’t attacking. I don't know where Ben got his info but I have multiple sources who have this information.
• Police less likely to kill black people on the same circumstances - I don't know what warrant he had for this claim, and my earlier point would back my stance up. NEXT!
• Murder rate in black community higher than in white community - We will get to this later, but black people make up a higher rate of poor people than white people do. Crime goes on more in poor neighborhoods so this statistic would make sense. Add that onto the fact that the 'war on drugs' ADMITTED to CREATING black communities then implanting drugs into them, and you have a recipe for a high crime rate!
• Blacks 25% of speeders in NJ and 23% of people w/tickets - I don't know how this is measured? How do you measure how many people speed? This is probably a WILD guess at best. I will take my evidence earlier about false accusations by race. http://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Documents/Race_and_Wrongful_Convictions.pdf
• Need more cops not less racism? - Yeah, we do. We also need to get the drugs out, invest in equality in education, help people in poverty, training, break generational poverty, give people hope, etc. Focus on what LEADS to the crime not 'well we need more police'. That's just ignorant and won't stop the problem.

Poverty (Arguments relating to mine):

• Black people have higher dropout rate - Again, black people tend to live in poor communities (Redlining strikes again). The U.S. is one of only 3 of the 34 O.E.C.D. nations to give fewer resources and have lower teacher/student ratios in poorer communities than in more privileged communities. There is a TON of evidence that shows that the US does NOT invest equally into every student. This is a major issue. If you grew up in a school where plaster is crumbling, the roof is leaking, and you get almost no opportunities and bad teachers, then you are not gonna have motivation to do well in school either. This is not just a 'black' problem, and you certainly cannot pin this on poor people being lazy. It is state funding inequalities.
• "Something needs to change in black community", personal responsibility - It's not the black community. It really isn't. Yeah, if you start out well, by not doing the three things you will find yourself in poverty most likely. BUT it does not work both ways, and the evidence supports this. Getting out of poverty is WAY harder than getting in in the first place and just saying 'work harder' DOES NOT WORK. My dad works with this every day, he helps run a local poverty training site called Circles of Hope that gives people in poverty relational and other skills and other things that can actually get people out of poverty and IT WORKS. But let's keep blaming poor people so we can continue this cycle. When will we learn.

If I were in charge I would equalize education funding first off, support local programs that actually HELP PEOPLE and invest in getting the drugs out and providing legitimate opportunity and help.

Wealth gaps are bigger than race ones in education, and somewhat in crime, it's just that the stereotype that most in power (Partially rightfully so, but also that people worked hard to make the stereotype become the reality) have that black and Hispanics are poor and to some extent they are, and partially that is not their fault at this point.

I enjoy Shapiro, it's good to hear another educated viewpoint but I disagree.

I watched your site, now you read mine. Here is where I got most of my info: https://www.thenewprogressive.net/ultimate-white-privilege-statistics/

I read it but it is so one sided and the site is new progressive LOL.

You are reading from the ultra leftist website. People are poor because of circumstance but remain poor because they are bad with money. This country gives you every opportunity to succeed.

1. Graduate High School
2. Don't become a single parent
3. Get a job

Seems simple to me. But Liberals find those three things impossible to attain. Makes me laugh. I am not saying graduate with all A pluses. You can get all Ds and still graduate. But #2 is critical don't have kids if you are too young and or cannot afford them. In reality wait until you are married. Jobs are prevalent. Those with a HS degree can make $75K here in MA fairly easily.

If I were in charge I would preach those three things over and over and over and over again to kids and their parents in ALL communities. I would not treat poorer kids differently than wealthier kids. I would STRESS #1 and #2 and if you do that #3 should happen on its own. If you graduate and don't have kids you will likely find a job and then you will NOT be poor.

Want to cure poverty do it this way.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/5/2018 9:15:00 AM (view original):
I read it but it is so one sided and the site is new progressive LOL.

You are reading from the ultra leftist website. People are poor because of circumstance but remain poor because they are bad with money. This country gives you every opportunity to succeed.

1. Graduate High School
2. Don't become a single parent
3. Get a job

Seems simple to me. But Liberals find those three things impossible to attain. Makes me laugh. I am not saying graduate with all A pluses. You can get all Ds and still graduate. But #2 is critical don't have kids if you are too young and or cannot afford them. In reality wait until you are married. Jobs are prevalent. Those with a HS degree can make $75K here in MA fairly easily.

If I were in charge I would preach those three things over and over and over and over again to kids and their parents in ALL communities. I would not treat poorer kids differently than wealthier kids. I would STRESS #1 and #2 and if you do that #3 should happen on its own. If you graduate and don't have kids you will likely find a job and then you will NOT be poor.

Want to cure poverty do it this way.

1. Progressives are not ultra liberal, and yes it is one-sided but so was the 'ultra-conservative' Shapiro. It shows a side of an argument. I went word for word with what Shapiro said, providing specific evidence for each. You clearly gave up.
2. Other way around. People fall into poverty because they don't follow those things. The thing that breaks your argument apart is that poverty is generational. So you will not get out of poverty simply by doing those three things but you will fall in.

The USA has not invested equally into every student and it shows. I can give you more evidence on this point because it is clear. Less resources means a worse education.

Please try again, with a little more effort this time.

Btw I doubt you even read the article, but you are an ignorant illlgical fool who will not listen to an opposing viewpoint. There is nothing I can do to change your mind. You had a chance with Shapiro but his argument fell apart.

If everyone has an equal opportunity and we should treat poor people the same then WHY DOES GENERATIONAL POVERTY EXIST.