I like the comments section under the fox article. Some people are truly clueless about how businesses work.

Credit much of that to misinformation. The mainstream media has been railing against Trump's tax reform, although before he came along they were for it.

Same for immigration reform. Clinton's State of the Union address was eerily similar to Trump's talking points. Go figure...it's on Youtube. ..

Being against everything that Trump favors is not an agenda. I think it is a poor strategy, especially when investigations seem to have more dirt on Dems. ..then again, who knows? I think opposing a tax plan that helps 4 of 5 Americans is a tough sell...

Time will tell. Gambling by screwing around with a growing economy is problematic at best. IF the Repugs. are wrong about this tax bill generating additional economic growth the voters will not likely trust them with the economy anytime soon. As well, if folks don't see a tax cut in their own pockets they're not gonna be happy about the Corps. and the upper class getting a nice cut. Again, they won't likely vote Repug. again for quite awhile.

You folks that believe the Dems. will lead us to ruin better hope the Repugs. know what they're doing. I sure don't think they do.
Whatever happened to the concept of tax simplification............ we could all file on a post card!!! LOL.
Chumpie got swamped. Instead of draining the swamp he decided it was more expedient to become the head snake!!
Poor folk thinking that someone like chump is gonna help them is just hilariously stupid!

Strikeout is correct (at least to my understanding) in his interpretation of the bible. By saying, 'we need redemptive violence' and calling me an idiot for disagreeing, you called all practicing Christians idiots. Congratulations.

The tax code will be simplified. Many will be able to file on a postcard. Reconciliation was round one of an ongoing process. More changes will be made.

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Posted by DoctorKz on 12/20/2017 7:13:00 PM (view original):
The tax bill is not perfect. Under reconciliation rules, Congress, to some extent, had their hands tied. Once in place, improvements will be made.

This is a gap. 80% of Americans will get a tax break, but only 17% in Richard Rubin's poll think they will see a tax cut.

Here is some interesting reading...who's money is it?

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454801/democrats-republican-tax-bill-theft

People in high tax states will pay more. Aka NY, NJ, CT, MA, CA.

Depending on their income level. Only 5% of Americans will see their taxes rise. Almost all that will pay more are wealthy. Dems want to soak the rich, so what's the problem? The problem is that the progressives can't continue to move us towards socialism. What are the immigration laws in Venezuela? Try it, you might like eating out of a dumpster...

I will pay more, albeit slightly. I am not wealthy. Overall I do like the tax plan though.

Posted by tangplay on 12/20/2017 10:49:00 PM (view original):
Strikeout is correct (at least to my understanding) in his interpretation of the bible. By saying, 'we need redemptive violence' and calling me an idiot for disagreeing, you called all practicing Christians idiots. Congratulations.

Were the Templars practicing Christians? You are an idiot. Pacifists generally are.

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Posted by tangplay on 12/20/2017 10:49:00 PM (view original):
Strikeout is correct (at least to my understanding) in his interpretation of the bible. By saying, 'we need redemptive violence' and calling me an idiot for disagreeing, you called all practicing Christians idiots. Congratulations.

Were the Templars practicing Christians? You are an idiot. Pacifists generally are.

While Tang and me fall on the opposite ends of the political spectrum, his interpretation of this text is correct. You referenced the "turn the other cheek" verse. If you read further into that chapter, Jesus goes on to say this:

43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor[g] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,[h] 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet your brethren[i] only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors[j] do so? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

And...? Were the Templars Christians or not? Were they pacifists?

Of course and of course not, but I wasn't talking about what the templars believed. I was talking about what the Bible says.

on a side note, I think it's hilarious that there has been ongoing, intertwined conversation between taxes and Christianity and in the verses I quoted Jesus is basically bashing tax collectors. I just caught that.

I guess people have never liked taxes. LOL

My point is that people like tangplay are idiots, regardless of beliefs. I am pretty sure that Muslim extremists could not care less about Jesus' teachings and will gladly chop your head off as you pray at them.

strikeout - That is pretty funny, however I don't interpret it as that Jesus hates taxes, more that the taxes were going to a corrupt government filled with greed and the tax collectors embodied that.

cccp - The point went RIGHT over your head. MUSLIMS. ARE. NOT. CHRISTIANS. The point was that we, as Christians, should love our enemies, turn the other cheek, so that we are on the good side, and God will take care of the rest. If I need to be a martyr, so be it.

Wow. You are clinically insane. Thank you for sharing.

hey commie, think you can get through a post without calling someone an idiot or insane?

Posted by tangplay on 12/21/2017 11:41:00 AM (view original):
strikeout - That is pretty funny, however I don't interpret it as that Jesus hates taxes, more that the taxes were going to a corrupt government filled with greed and the tax collectors embodied that.

cccp - The point went RIGHT over your head. MUSLIMS. ARE. NOT. CHRISTIANS. The point was that we, as Christians, should love our enemies, turn the other cheek, so that we are on the good side, and God will take care of the rest. If I need to be a martyr, so be it.

I agree, Jesus did not hate taxes (see Mark 12:17). As you said, the 1st century Roman government had many issues. Tax collectors were looked down upon because they were openly known as cheats.