Posted by moy23 on 11/24/2017 8:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 11/24/2017 7:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 11/24/2017 6:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 11/24/2017 6:06:00 PM (view original):
Moy - Explain why pulling back net neutrality and raising the military budget is a good thing please.

Opens the internet up to free market forces and I can afford a 'fast lane'. There will be more structural innovation (i.e, faster WiFi, Fiber, etc) with ISPs in control and with less regulation. The rest of the internet will be just fine without net neutrality.

And a big military is how we show strength as a nation... Unlike that kumbaya, we lead from behind, oblunder bullshit.

It's that strength that buys us our daily freedoms that other countries don't have and it gets us a better seat at the bargaining table when we need it.

Does it open up more innovation? If I have a great idea that will cost ISPs money, what chance do I have? ISPs will just shut me down.

It’s 100% rent-seeking by ISPs. It’s a terrible, terrible decision. Filling the swamp.

Or they will buy your great idea like Google, Apple, IBM, and Microsoft have been doing....

How much is my idea worth if they can just block anyone from accessing it?

Posted by bad_luck on 11/24/2017 8:21:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 11/24/2017 8:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 11/24/2017 7:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 11/24/2017 6:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 11/24/2017 6:06:00 PM (view original):
Moy - Explain why pulling back net neutrality and raising the military budget is a good thing please.

Opens the internet up to free market forces and I can afford a 'fast lane'. There will be more structural innovation (i.e, faster WiFi, Fiber, etc) with ISPs in control and with less regulation. The rest of the internet will be just fine without net neutrality.

And a big military is how we show strength as a nation... Unlike that kumbaya, we lead from behind, oblunder bullshit.

It's that strength that buys us our daily freedoms that other countries don't have and it gets us a better seat at the bargaining table when we need it.

Does it open up more innovation? If I have a great idea that will cost ISPs money, what chance do I have? ISPs will just shut me down.

It’s 100% rent-seeking by ISPs. It’s a terrible, terrible decision. Filling the swamp.

Or they will buy your great idea like Google, Apple, IBM, and Microsoft have been doing....

How much is my idea worth if they can just block anyone from accessing it?

Depends... Is your idea patented, trademarked, or copyrighted? That would be a start.

It doesn’t matter. If an ISP can choke off access, my idea is worthless.

Posted by bad_luck on 11/24/2017 8:32:00 PM (view original):
It doesn’t matter. If an ISP can choke off access, my idea is worthless.

What do you think Google, Apple, IBM, and Microsoft have done for ages? They choke off ideas by either buying them, suing them, or creating a product/service to compete against them. Ford has done it, GM has done it too... its called barriers to entry. If it's a great idea and you get the funding you need and the market timing is right you'll be fine... just like in EVERY other industry in the US.


When did Facebook start up? BEFORE NET NEUTRALITY? What about Google, Twitter, Groupon, Zillow, Amazon, Reddit, Match.com, Pandora, Wikileaks, ebay, craigslist, youtube, linkedin, dropbox, etc.... OMG!!! HOW COULD THAT HAPPEN?!?!?!

Net neutrality is better for the consumer across the board. It doesn't take much research or common sense to figure it out.

Posted by The Taint on 11/24/2017 9:10:00 PM (view original):
Net neutrality is better for the consumer across the board. It doesn't take much research or common sense to figure it out.

na na na na... hey hey hey.... good bye!!!

Posted by moy23 on 11/24/2017 8:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 11/24/2017 8:32:00 PM (view original):
It doesn’t matter. If an ISP can choke off access, my idea is worthless.

What do you think Google, Apple, IBM, and Microsoft have done for ages? They choke off ideas by either buying them, suing them, or creating a product/service to compete against them. Ford has done it, GM has done it too... its called barriers to entry. If it's a great idea and you get the funding you need and the market timing is right you'll be fine... just like in EVERY other industry in the US.


When did Facebook start up? BEFORE NET NEUTRALITY? What about Google, Twitter, Groupon, Zillow, Amazon, Reddit, Match.com, Pandora, Wikileaks, ebay, craigslist, youtube, linkedin, dropbox, etc.... OMG!!! HOW COULD THAT HAPPEN?!?!?!

Jesus Christ. Google can’t physically prevent people from getting to other search engines. Facebook can’t slow traffic to a crawl at competing social network sites.

Think of it this way. I run an asphalt company. I pave roads for the government. I decide to diversify and start a restaurant subsidiary.

You run a competing restaurant next door.

I lobby the government to allow my paving company to control street access outside your restaurant. I put up barriers to all foot traffic and install a toll booth. Anyone eating at your restaurant has to pay a $100 toll. Anyone eating at my restaurant can go through for free.

Good luck.

Any news on Trump Russia Collusion? WHERE THERES SMOKE THERES FIRE!!!! Surely Trump should be indicted by now, right?

Posted by bad_luck on 11/24/2017 9:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 11/24/2017 8:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 11/24/2017 8:32:00 PM (view original):
It doesn’t matter. If an ISP can choke off access, my idea is worthless.

What do you think Google, Apple, IBM, and Microsoft have done for ages? They choke off ideas by either buying them, suing them, or creating a product/service to compete against them. Ford has done it, GM has done it too... its called barriers to entry. If it's a great idea and you get the funding you need and the market timing is right you'll be fine... just like in EVERY other industry in the US.


When did Facebook start up? BEFORE NET NEUTRALITY? What about Google, Twitter, Groupon, Zillow, Amazon, Reddit, Match.com, Pandora, Wikileaks, ebay, craigslist, youtube, linkedin, dropbox, etc.... OMG!!! HOW COULD THAT HAPPEN?!?!?!

Jesus Christ. Google can’t physically prevent people from getting to other search engines. Facebook can’t slow traffic to a crawl at competing social network sites.

Think of it this way. I run an asphalt company. I pave roads for the government. I decide to diversify and start a restaurant subsidiary.

You run a competing restaurant next door.

I lobby the government to allow my paving company to control street access outside your restaurant. I put up barriers to all foot traffic and install a toll booth. Anyone eating at your restaurant has to pay a $100 toll. Anyone eating at my restaurant can go through for free.

Good luck.

LOL.... DID THE INTERNET NOT WORK BEFORE OBAMA INTRODUCED NET NEUTRALITY?

When did Facebook start up? BEFORE NET NEUTRALITY? What about Google, Twitter, Groupon, Zillow, Amazon, Reddit, Match.com, Pandora, Wikileaks, ebay, craigslist, youtube, linkedin, dropbox, etc.... OMG!!! HOW COULD THAT HAPPEN?!?!?!

^^^BTW - I love your doomsday scenario!!! So much emotion!!! It's beautiful!!!

Posted by The Taint on 11/24/2017 9:10:00 PM (view original):
Net neutrality is better for the consumer across the board. It doesn't take much research or common sense to figure it out.

Explain it to me.

Posted by DougOut on 11/24/2017 9:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 11/24/2017 9:10:00 PM (view original):
Net neutrality is better for the consumer across the board. It doesn't take much research or common sense to figure it out.

Explain it to me.

He can't... but since he does like beer I have to say this year's BCBS is probably the best its been in at least 5 years. SO TASTY!!

And we really don’t have to use analogies. In most areas, because of government granted monopolies, the only viable ISP is one cable company.

Those ISP can decide that they aren’t making enough money on their cable packages and wreck streaming services.

Consumers are left with even LESS choice if this happens.

Posted by moy23 on 11/24/2017 9:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 11/24/2017 9:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 11/24/2017 8:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 11/24/2017 8:32:00 PM (view original):
It doesn’t matter. If an ISP can choke off access, my idea is worthless.

What do you think Google, Apple, IBM, and Microsoft have done for ages? They choke off ideas by either buying them, suing them, or creating a product/service to compete against them. Ford has done it, GM has done it too... its called barriers to entry. If it's a great idea and you get the funding you need and the market timing is right you'll be fine... just like in EVERY other industry in the US.


When did Facebook start up? BEFORE NET NEUTRALITY? What about Google, Twitter, Groupon, Zillow, Amazon, Reddit, Match.com, Pandora, Wikileaks, ebay, craigslist, youtube, linkedin, dropbox, etc.... OMG!!! HOW COULD THAT HAPPEN?!?!?!

Jesus Christ. Google can’t physically prevent people from getting to other search engines. Facebook can’t slow traffic to a crawl at competing social network sites.

Think of it this way. I run an asphalt company. I pave roads for the government. I decide to diversify and start a restaurant subsidiary.

You run a competing restaurant next door.

I lobby the government to allow my paving company to control street access outside your restaurant. I put up barriers to all foot traffic and install a toll booth. Anyone eating at your restaurant has to pay a $100 toll. Anyone eating at my restaurant can go through for free.

Good luck.

LOL.... DID THE INTERNET NOT WORK BEFORE OBAMA INTRODUCED NET NEUTRALITY?

When did Facebook start up? BEFORE NET NEUTRALITY? What about Google, Twitter, Groupon, Zillow, Amazon, Reddit, Match.com, Pandora, Wikileaks, ebay, craigslist, youtube, linkedin, dropbox, etc.... OMG!!! HOW COULD THAT HAPPEN?!?!?!

The world has changed significantly since Google and Facebook started.

Posted by bad_luck on 11/24/2017 9:40:00 PM (view original):
And we really don’t have to use analogies. In most areas, because of government granted monopolies, the only viable ISP is one cable company.

Those ISP can decide that they aren’t making enough money on their cable packages and wreck streaming services.

Consumers are left with even LESS choice if this happens.

And if they aren't making enough money on them they should 'wreck them'.... and find something they can make money on. Then again... free blogs were around well before Net Neutrality was, drama queen.