it'a smart for her to say that. political theatre. Now when she does come out and say, well, there it is. it waa juat proven, her words will carry more weight.

if she said she sees the collusion, you would just call her a political partisan hack. Now you've given her opinion legitimacy. When she does finally say it, you're obliged to agree or it shows you're the partisan hack.

in the famous words of Admiral Ackbar, "it's a trap."

Posted by strikeout26 on 11/8/2017 9:42:00 PM (view original):
We also have to remember that the investigation was started because of a Clinton-funded dossier. I am not saying that Trump is innocent, but because of the bias of the source, I will give him the benefit of the doubt, or dought as Taint says, until they actually do release evidence. I will say that it is only fair that Trump be treated like this, the republicans were trying to impeach Obama for breathing the wrong way early on in his presidency. He was a bad president, but nothing has yet to come out that would have been worthy of impeachment. Same with Trump. Whether you like him or not, nothing has come that is impeachment worthy despite the fact that the moron congressman from Texas is trying to start the process.

It was actually originally funded by the GOP.

Posted by strikeout26 on 11/9/2017 9:07:00 AM (view original):

Posted by mixtroy on 11/9/2017 1:03:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 11/8/2017 8:29:00 PM (view original):
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.dailycaller.com/2017/11/05/dianne-feinstein-says-she-still-hasnt-seen-evidence-of-collusion-video/

And you won't until the investigation is over!

Exactly. Just like the democrats on here that are making these claims don't know anything yet other than what's portrayed in the media, which sadly is not very reliable anymore. I'm not going to be surprised if their was collusion. Both parties are filled with scandal. Hillary met with the same lawyer.

My point is that none of us will definitively know if there was collusion or whatever until Mueller completes his investigation and SAYS so. However, we as the general public have been made aware of some VERY strong circumstantial evidence (see my list above) that doesn't seem on the up and up with regard to Chump and his campaign people which somewhat strongly suggests that there may have been collusion. Those are just SOME of the things that we know about. And if those things are public info, isn't far more likely that Mueller and his team know A LOT more than what's been made lublic?

Posted by mixtroy on 11/9/2017 7:21:00 AM (view original):
After the idictment agains Pap for lying, Mueller has apparently cured Chump's guys' amnesia about russia.

http://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-melber/watch/mueller-russia-investigation-cures-trump-team-s-russia-amnesia-1091756611886

Just click the link and see for yourselves. Its not a reporter who makes the claim, which some of you would characterize as a fake news. They show you the actual VIDEOS of Chump's guys contradicting THEMSELVES about russian contacts. Its hilarious!

Especially the video of Corey Lewandowski where he first claims that he didn't even know who Carter Page was. And then after Page testified to the senate about discussions with Lewandowski, and it became public, now Lewandowski all of a suuden remembers Page bc his mind was supposedly "refreshed"!!!!

the thing is, i can't rem everone i meet, especially when its unimportant, not really a meeting

don't political guys meet as a way of life

i need to see money, or an election, changing hands

I agree that it doesn't look good for him. It just gets frustrating that, despite party affiliation, half the country is routing for the president to fail. I wanted Obama to succeed. Unfortunately, it didn't happen. I am not a supporter of Trump, but I want to see him succeed. He is off to a good start with the economy. It's bad for our country when half of the population is routing against the sitting president. Saying that, he works for us and should be held accountable, but the Both parties need to quit knit-picking. I remember when Fox News showed and commented on where Obama's kids were vacationing. I would lose my mind if a media outlet put my kids in danger like that.

Also, I think this thread is representative of the American people. With the exception of a few posters, most arguments are made from an emotional, illogical stance. It's like kids at a play ground with pointless banter.

Why would anyone make the claim that Obama didn't "succeed". Are we not better off as a country economically than when he took office? Are we not safe? What freedoms did we lose? Obama steered this ship for 8 years without catastrophe and you claim he didn't succeed?? Horseshit!! It's pure bias....... based on what?? Ideology? Racism? Stupidity?? What? Many, many POTUS did NOT do nearly as well as Obama. Makes one wonder what ever would make a person say that.

you didn't notice that Obama is black?

Posted by laramiebob on 11/9/2017 11:45:00 AM (view original):
Why would anyone make the claim that Obama didn't "succeed". Are we not better off as a country economically than when he took office? Are we not safe? What freedoms did we lose? Obama steered this ship for 8 years without catastrophe and you claim he didn't succeed?? Horseshit!! It's pure bias....... based on what?? Ideology? Racism? Stupidity?? What? Many, many POTUS did NOT do nearly as well as Obama. Makes one wonder what ever would make a person say that.

I love Obama. Only the wealthy got wealthier, and in double digit gains too!!! The biggest oil boom in US history and over 100,000,000 guns sold!!! Dude was an awesome president when he wasn't dividing the country!!!

"you didn't notice that Obama is black?"

Half!

heh



the best intentions

I don't think Obama was the one doing the dividing. I believe it was guys like weasel McConnell (who vowed to make him unsuccessful), and most of the rest of the rupugnant opposition (like you?) that drove the divide into a chasm. The differences in us citizens' perceptions has existed for longer than you've been alive (of course). But I wouldn't expect the blind to understand that.

Posted by wylie715 on 11/9/2017 11:59:00 AM (view original):
you didn't notice that Obama is black?

AND??????