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Posted by kermit on 10/27/2017 3:49:00 PM (view original):
Yeh, you can't drain the swamp by hiring different swamp people.

I don't see businessmen and women as swamp people... I see them as people with experience running a PROFITABLE endeavor. For too long lifetime politicians have made a habit of spending other people's money, without any consequence or accountability. It's these people that need to leave DC. It's the congressmen that voted 60 times to repeal Obamacare when it didn't matter and caved when it did matter.

I love that Trump fired Flynn, why? Because Flynn LIED to his face... Not because the media pressured Trump to do so. I love that Price was fired for abusing tax payer money. Prior Administrations had no issue with using tax payer money on private jets... even when caught prior Administrations wouldn't hold anyone accountable... Trump did hold Price accountable. It's a culture of accountability (when you peel away the media spin) that Trump is creating.

He's called out McConnell for saying Trump doesn't understand Washington DC and has unrealistic expectations of congress to move quickly. He's called out Republicans for having 8 years to fix Oblundercare and not having a plan.

Honestly, look at the people Trump has brought in.... Can you show me how they benefited financially from their position in his cabinet? Can you point out specifics like Russia gets 20% of us uranium at the same time a family member gets $500k speaking fees and $145 million is deposited to the family foundation? I can't.

Unfortunately or fortunately, running the government is not the same as running a business. When Trump runs his business he doesn't have to answer to anyone but himself. He tries to run the government the same way, but he does have people to answer to. Those people are the American public.

Trump holds people accountable? Well, maybe, but not if its himself. He's accountable to no one.

You don't see anything Trump has done or said as anything wrong. Personally I take your opinions on Trump very lightly. If you even once admitted Trump did or said something wrong, it would be different.

How can you say that? Where's your evidence? I work with local government... Many of the village managers i work with are running government like a business these days.

Oh, my mistake. It must be the way to run a government if some of your buddies are doing it.

Posted by The Taint on 10/27/2017 9:20:00 PM (view original):
wonder who's getting arrested on Monday

Mamafort? Page? Someone in the Trump business world?

I have a feeling this ends up being a lot more about financial crimes in the Trump corporate world and less about campaign crimes.

Manafort flipped. Flynn's, Page, Junior, Jared, then the big orange prize by the War on Christmas!

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Posted by kermit on 10/27/2017 3:49:00 PM (view original):
Yeh, you can't drain the swamp by hiring different swamp people.

I don't see businessmen and women as swamp people... I see them as people with experience running a PROFITABLE endeavor. For too long lifetime politicians have made a habit of spending other people's money, without any consequence or accountability. It's these people that need to leave DC. It's the congressmen that voted 60 times to repeal Obamacare when it didn't matter and caved when it did matter.

I love that Trump fired Flynn, why? Because Flynn LIED to his face... Not because the media pressured Trump to do so. I love that Price was fired for abusing tax payer money. Prior Administrations had no issue with using tax payer money on private jets... even when caught prior Administrations wouldn't hold anyone accountable... Trump did hold Price accountable. It's a culture of accountability (when you peel away the media spin) that Trump is creating.

He's called out McConnell for saying Trump doesn't understand Washington DC and has unrealistic expectations of congress to move quickly. He's called out Republicans for having 8 years to fix Oblundercare and not having a plan.

Honestly, look at the people Trump has brought in.... Can you show me how they benefited financially from their position in his cabinet? Can you point out specifics like Russia gets 20% of us uranium at the same time a family member gets $500k speaking fees and $145 million is deposited to the family foundation? I can't.

Lol It's trump that has failed on Obamacare. He had no plan. He was not ready for office. He is paying for it.

Obummercare was supposed to save us $2500 a year and we'd be able to keep our doctor if we liked our doctor. Neither happened and you think that's Trump's fault?

Was it Trump's fault that insurers have been leaving the exchange for the last 3-4 years now?

If Obamacare is so bad then why has the majority GOP legislature failed to repeal and replace it?

Because they were unorganized and selfish. Poor execution.

.. Because trump did not have a plan and ditched the GOP.

When did he ditch them? He's never not signed anything they put on his desk. He tweeted they need to get it done and he'll sign it. McCain is the jackass that stopped the process, not Trump.

He fired at the conventional republicans. 'Drain the swamp'

He fired at all republicans 'you've had 8 years to come up was like with a replacement plan'

He's right too.

Shortest Presidential Terms
44...William Henry Harrison...31 days.....Died of pneumonia 31 days into his term.
43...James A Garfield..........199 days....Assassinated 3 months and 28 days after taking office, dying 79 days later, 6 months and 15 days into his term.
42...Donald Trump...............279 days....Incumbent - Watch this space.
41...Zachary Taylor..............492 days....Died 1 year, 4 months, and 5 days into his term.

Posted by kasprowitz on 10/28/2017 12:45:00 AM (view original):
Moy is a soothsayer who predicted early on the Donald's defeat of Hillary.

A Wall/Fence will be built
ACA will be replaced
Tax Reform will happen
Republicans will keep the House and Senate in 2018
Trump will get a second term

And.... Another Longshot prediction....

Gillespie will be the next governor of Virginia.

Posted by moy23 on 10/28/2017 5:05:00 AM (view original):

Posted by kasprowitz on 10/28/2017 12:45:00 AM (view original):
Moy is a soothsayer who predicted early on the Donald's defeat of Hillary.

A Wall/Fence will be built
ACA will be replaced
Tax Reform will happen
Republicans will keep the House and Senate in 2018
Trump will get a second term

And.... Another Longshot prediction....

Gillespie will be the next governor of Virginia.

Just quoting this for when you go 1-6.

Some of you Chump guys kill me with claims that there's no 'evidence' of wrongdoing by the Chump campaign. First of all, none of us, including the American public, have no idea whatsoever what kind of 'evidence' Mueller has bc there's an active INVESTIGATION going on, and as with ALL criminal investigations, the actual 'evidence' isn't presented until trial.

More to the point, the fact that someone (presumably involved with Chump) has actually been criminally INDICTED tells you that Mueller (as well as a federal grand jury) believes there's in FACT 'evidence' of criminal conduct on the part of someone, and even moy would have to agree that an indictment isn't FAKE for the simple fact that people aren't indicted WITHOUT some kind of evidence!

While i, just like the rest of us, REALLY have no idea as to who did what bc we're not privy to what Mueller's investigation has thus far uncovered. However we do know for a FACT that members of Chump's goof troop for an administration have been caught with their pants down on a variety of issues and have lied or provided dubious and/or misleading excuses for their actions (e.g. the meeting with the russian lawyer), and that's what's called 'circumstantial' evidence, something that people get convicted on everyday in our criminal justice system, including for murder.

I'm not saying either way whether there was collusion or not, bc i don't know. But from the circumstantial evidence that we know for a fact isn't FAKE (due to Chump's team admitting to it), as well as the FACT that there's been an actual indictment, it just doesn't look good!

So when people say there's no 'evidence' of any wrongdoing, that's just not true.

Some of you Chump guys kill me with claims that&nbsp; there's no 'evidence' of wrongdoing by the Chump campaign. First of all, none of us, including the American public, have no idea whatsoever what kind of 'evidence' Mueller has bc there's an active INVESTIGATION going on, and as with ALL criminal investigations, the actual 'evidence' isn't presented until trial.&nbsp;<br /> <br /> More to the point, the fact that someone (presumably involved with Chump) has actually been criminally INDICTED tells you that Mueller (as well as a federal grand jury) believes there's in FACT 'evidence' of criminal conduct on the part of someone, and even moy would have to agree that an indictment isn't FAKE for the simple fact that people aren't indicted WITHOUT some kind of evidence!<br /> <br /> While i, just like the rest of us, REALLY have no idea as to who did what bc we're not privy to what Mueller's investigation has thus far uncovered. However we do know for a FACT that members of Chump's goof troop for an administration have been caught with their pants down on a variety of issues and have lied or provided dubious and/or misleading excuses for their actions (e.g. the meeting with the russian lawyer), and that's what's called 'circumstantial' evidence, something that people get convicted on everyday in our criminal justice system, including for murder.<br /> <br /> I'm not saying either way whether there was collusion or not, bc i don't know. But from the circumstantial evidence that we know for a fact isn't FAKE (due to Chump's team admitting to it), as well as the FACT that there's been an actual indictment, it just doesn't look good!<br /> <br /> So when people say there's no 'evidence' of any wrongdoing, that's just not true.

Sorry that got posted twice. It does that sometimes.

Posted by moy23 on 10/28/2017 5:05:00 AM (view original):

Posted by kasprowitz on 10/28/2017 12:45:00 AM (view original):
Moy is a soothsayer who predicted early on the Donald's defeat of Hillary.

A Wall/Fence will be built
ACA will be replaced
Tax Reform will happen
Republicans will keep the House and Senate in 2018
Trump will get a second term

And.... Another Longshot prediction....

Gillespie will be the next governor of Virginia.

I can see 3, 4, and in a miracle 5 happening

SANDERS/WARREN 2020