I think that if (this is a big if) Trump makes it through his 4 years, he will become more politician like. He has shown that he can use twitter for good. He just needs to cut down on the idiotic things he says and does.

Posted by tangplay on 9/28/2017 11:39:00 AM (view original):
In the end, Obama will be remembered as someone who knew what he was doing....

So far Trump has not shown me that.

In the end Obama will simply be known as the first black president. That's all.

Posted by moy23 on 9/28/2017 11:47:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 9/28/2017 11:39:00 AM (view original):
In the end, Obama will be remembered as someone who knew what he was doing....

So far Trump has not shown me that.

In the end Obama will simply be known as the first black president. That's all.

What i meant by that was that Obama was a competent president who knew what he was doing

Posted by moy23 on 9/28/2017 11:47:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 9/28/2017 11:39:00 AM (view original):
In the end, Obama will be remembered as someone who knew what he was doing....

So far Trump has not shown me that.

In the end Obama will simply be known as the first black president. That's all.

What i meant by that was that Obama was a competent president who knew what he was doing

Posted by tangplay on 9/28/2017 11:40:00 AM (view original):
I think that if (this is a big if) Trump makes it through his 4 years, he will become more politician like. He has shown that he can use twitter for good. He just needs to cut down on the idiotic things he says and does.

If this tax plan goes through the economy is going to take off.... He could be remembered like Reagan regarding the economy.

If ISIS is eradicated (and Trump has been doing well here which is why the media doesn't talk about it) then that will be a feather in his cap... Something Obama was terrible at handling.


Look, Trump calls a spade a spade. He doesn't beat around the bush. Libs hate that, it's not PC. Most of the country outside the big cities love it. Trump's Twitter account is 95% positive things that he's doing, who he's meeting with for the day, thanking people, etc.... The media in classic fashion bite on the 5% of stuff he throws out there as a red herring. You probably don't know that because of biased media reporting but his 50 million followers do.

Trump knows he wins these tweet battles every time. It's because of these tweets the media looks so stupid. As they salivate like rabid dogs chasing the purple squirrel they look like folks... So much that they are now less trustworthy than Trump. Let that sink in...
Less. Trustworthy. not Than. Trump.

Just watch.. Trump is the kind of guy to tweet something when he already knows the answer... I.e the wiretapping tweet everyone laughed at him for and it's now it's coming out that Trump 'could have' been correct. Trump will let the media look bad, really bad for a long time so it sinks in with the public, and then he'll drop the evidence on them after they've did themselves into a position they can't get out of. That's entertainment, something Trump is good at.

Why would raising taxes on the poor cause the economy to take off?

Posted by tangplay on 9/28/2017 11:56:00 AM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 9/28/2017 11:47:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 9/28/2017 11:39:00 AM (view original):
In the end, Obama will be remembered as someone who knew what he was doing....

So far Trump has not shown me that.

In the end Obama will simply be known as the first black president. That's all.

What i meant by that was that Obama was a competent president who knew what he was doing

Yep, nothing special.... Other than he was black.

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Posted by RCBracco on 9/27/2017 7:45:00 PM (view original):
F%%K GORSUCH! That is your answer for everything you dumb ****

That was all Trump had to do to have a winning presidency. Everything else, like dismantling Obama's legacy, is gravy.

Wow yes thanks for the demoralizing comment... I honestly think Obama was a good president. At least he wasn't divisive like Trump. I mean, except for the KKK who hated him for, you know, being black and stuff

"Obama was a good president" - per you

Economy: Obama did face a severe economic downturn when he assumed office. That’s far from rare in American history. According to 247wallst.com, America had either depressions or recessions in 1797 (under Adams), 1807 (under Jefferson), 1815-1821 (under Madison and Monroe), 1837 (under Van Buren), 1857 (under Buchanan), 1873 (under Grant), 1893 (under Cleveland), 1907 (under Teddy Roosevelt), 1920-21 (under Harding), the Great Depression (under Hoover and FDR), 1973 (under Nixon), and the Carter years and early Reagan years. That leaves aside stock market crashes under Reagan, the mild economic downturn under George H.W. Bush, the bursting of the internet bubble under Bill Clinton. The question is what he did with those circumstances. He proceeded to lead one of the the weakest recoveries in American history.

Race Relations: When he took office, two out of three Americans thought race relations were good, but he leaves office with nearly two in three Americans thinking the reverse. BLM started on his watch 2014-16 shootings.

Foreign/Domestic Policy: Obamacare, has increased costs and premiums, thrown Americans off their preferred health insurance plans, and separated them from their doctors, all while overburdening medical care providers and placing insurance companies under the financial gun. It will be repealed with Obama’s ouster. His immigration policy has left millions of illegal immigrants adrift, and his foreign policy has been a series of appeasements and blunders, resulting the rise of ISIS, a genocide in Syria, the unilateral surrender of Iraq, the incompetent prosecution of the war in Afghanistan, the regional empowerment and global legitimization of the Iranian terror regime, the creation of dictatorship in Turkey, the empowerment of a dictatorship in Russia, and the expansion of Chinese power; he’s weakened American allies all around the globe.

Impact on the Dem Party: Obama has devastated his political party. He’s lost nearly 1,000 seats across the country for his party. His party controls just 18 governorships. He’s lost the Senate, and he’s lost the House, and now he’s lost the White House. The Democrats are in the weakest position they’ve occupied since 1920 on the state level. His presidency led to the election of Donald Trump. A populist.

I guess I disagree with your operational definition of "good".

Thank you for listening.

Posted by bad_luck on 9/28/2017 12:05:00 PM (view original):
Why would raising taxes on the poor cause the economy to take off?

If you raised the tax rate to 90% on the wealthy you'd generate another $100bn or so. Entitlements need to be addressed and we need to also grow revenues.

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Posted by bad_luck on 9/27/2017 2:22:00 PM (view original):
Seems like the only people angry are the snowflakes who get offended by a silent, peaceful protest.

Really? Please explain the $600k spend when Ben Shapiro spoke at Berkeley?
What exactly are the players protesting when they are taking the knee? Please explain.

Thanks

Trump calling them Sons Of ******* and calling the KKK nice people

To be fair he also said there were nice people ON BOTH SIDES, not just the KKK.

the point still stands... He called some people in the KKK nice people... And managed to insult so many people on twitter... People are tired of it

Who's tired? Big City Liberals? Trump doesn't give a crap about them. You haven't figured that out yet? He's not trying to appease them.

Trump will win this spat with the nfl. You'll see.

that's the problem. he is supposed to care about all Americans, not just his ******* supporters.
I think the whole reason for Trump's remarks about the NFL are because the NFL would not let him buy the Buffalo Bills a few years ago. He wants his petty revenge, like always.

We learned from Obama that the old adage of "if you try to please everyone you please no one" holds true.

Trump can't please everyone, so he's pleasing the majority. Some 70% of Americans are behind him on the NFL issue.

I think you meant to say Trump can't please everyone Nor does he want to) so he's pleasing himself and his rich buddies. As far as Donald is concerned the rest of us can go f**k ourselves. Do you really think Trump gives a **** what you think or feel, moy?

I care what you think wylie.

maybe, but you are not the President of the United States. The POTUS is supposed to serve all his constituents, not just the ones he likes.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 9/27/2017 2:33:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 9/27/2017 2:22:00 PM (view original):
Seems like the only people angry are the snowflakes who get offended by a silent, peaceful protest.

Really? Please explain the $600k spend when Ben Shapiro spoke at Berkeley?
What exactly are the players protesting when they are taking the knee? Please explain.

Thanks

Trump calling them Sons Of ******* and calling the KKK nice people

To be fair he also said there were nice people ON BOTH SIDES, not just the KKK.

the point still stands... He called some people in the KKK nice people... And managed to insult so many people on twitter... People are tired of it

Who's tired? Big City Liberals? Trump doesn't give a crap about them. You haven't figured that out yet? He's not trying to appease them.

Trump will win this spat with the nfl. You'll see.

that's the problem. he is supposed to care about all Americans, not just his ******* supporters.
I think the whole reason for Trump's remarks about the NFL are because the NFL would not let him buy the Buffalo Bills a few years ago. He wants his petty revenge, like always.

We learned from Obama that the old adage of "if you try to please everyone you please no one" holds true.

Trump can't please everyone, so he's pleasing the majority. Some 70% of Americans are behind him on the NFL issue.

I think you meant to say Trump can't please everyone Nor does he want to) so he's pleasing himself and his rich buddies. As far as Donald is concerned the rest of us can go f**k ourselves. Do you really think Trump gives a **** what you think or feel, moy?

I care what you think wylie.

maybe, but you are not the President of the United States. The POTUS is supposed to serve all his constituents, not just the ones he likes.

Truth. But this country so divided now that I am not sure if Trump gave everyone $1k that people who are on the Left would not still despise him.

Posted by moy23 on 9/28/2017 12:03:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 9/28/2017 11:40:00 AM (view original):
I think that if (this is a big if) Trump makes it through his 4 years, he will become more politician like. He has shown that he can use twitter for good. He just needs to cut down on the idiotic things he says and does.

If this tax plan goes through the economy is going to take off.... He could be remembered like Reagan regarding the economy.

If ISIS is eradicated (and Trump has been doing well here which is why the media doesn't talk about it) then that will be a feather in his cap... Something Obama was terrible at handling.


Look, Trump calls a spade a spade. He doesn't beat around the bush. Libs hate that, it's not PC. Most of the country outside the big cities love it. Trump's Twitter account is 95% positive things that he's doing, who he's meeting with for the day, thanking people, etc.... The media in classic fashion bite on the 5% of stuff he throws out there as a red herring. You probably don't know that because of biased media reporting but his 50 million followers do.

Trump knows he wins these tweet battles every time. It's because of these tweets the media looks so stupid. As they salivate like rabid dogs chasing the purple squirrel they look like folks... So much that they are now less trustworthy than Trump. Let that sink in...
Less. Trustworthy. not Than. Trump.

Just watch.. Trump is the kind of guy to tweet something when he already knows the answer... I.e the wiretapping tweet everyone laughed at him for and it's now it's coming out that Trump 'could have' been correct. Trump will let the media look bad, really bad for a long time so it sinks in with the public, and then he'll drop the evidence on them after they've did themselves into a position they can't get out of. That's entertainment, something Trump is good at.

1. The tax plan will fail for 99% of people.

2. Isis began to be gone when trump was elected. That isnt much of an accomplishment.

3. ...Which is fine if HE WAS NOT THE PRESIDENT

4. i am not arguing for the media

5. Blatantly false

Did you see my post? All truth.

Bumping the standard deduction up to $24,000 for a married couple alone will be huge for the middle class.

America was never stronger economically than with the tax rates ( 45-90% top rate) under Eisenhower and while union membership was at it's highest.