Posted by colonels19 on 6/19/2017 12:02:00 AM (view original):
FOX has always misused WIS. They think people care more about how WIS can be used for fantasy and argument purposes, rather than the reason the site/games were created...to pit your favorites from all eras v. other peoples favorites from their favorite eras.

I said this in my cover letter for their multimedia content guy job, and obviously/apparently, they didn't care. FOX doesn't and has never understood the WIS niche.

Scott sucked long before FOX ever showed up

Posted by tadmand on 6/19/2017 7:38:00 AM (view original):
Been a while since I was on this site. Not sorry I left as I have more time to do other interests. Seemed like I cared more about the game than WIS or Fox.

Many of us care more about the game(s) than they do. That truly s*cks, but what are our options? Nothing else like this is available anywhere else.

Posted by drocman212 on 6/19/2017 4:58:00 AM (view original):
Man I agree with all of you. What the heck does an award show have to do with the entire league? If a guy's named De player of the year, does he get a 100% rating? And what about the others? How do they then determine who gets a 90, 80, 70, etc? Don't they already have whatever statistical info they need? And does a guy automatically get a 100% rating just because he wins DPOY? Perhaps even the best D player that season isn't even that good. And if not, why the hell the wait? This is all why I wonder if they're just trying to tick us all off enough that we'll go away so they can eliminate the sim. Perhaps it's a dead asset that's barely paying for itself & we just don't know. I felt for some time football was a dead world here so I left it long ago.

A) yes I believe DPOY does = 100 - if not it at least represents a significant boost to drating
B) being named to 1st or 2nd team also = rating boost
C) there is an algorithm that establishes Drating prior to any such boosts (I think it's heavily weight around blocks - used to be def rebounding played a big role too but they fixed that (because it lead to stupid results like Troy Murphy being an all world stopper))

As an exercise in thinking about how that algorithm might be constructed think about Andre Dummond's 12-13 season 89 rating vs his 15-16 52 rating - in the first season his real drtg was 99 and in the latter 98 but his block % in 12-13 was double that of this most recent season with all else pretty much equal so...? Yeah I got nothing - something something blocked shots something PG eligibles w above 90drtg not named Wade = rare birds indeed because? I guess Manute Bol or Mark Eaton something something etc)

anywho and in short they could (and previously have) release a 'first pass' of all the 16-17 player seasons that would for the large part stay fixed while the awards would impact the ratings of a select group of players that would need to be reset accordingly after the awards were announced (which would take less than 5 minutes I'm guessing)

other than dpoy being 100, copernicus has all his banana's in a row. I think dpoy doesn't do anything.
(Marc Gasol won the award in 12-13, yet his defense here is only an 80, and I'm pretty sure that is only because he was on the 2nd team)

1st team def = 90 if not already a 90 or higher
2nd team def = 80 if not already an 80 or higher

otherwise, awards affect nothing.

When's the award for all time greatest defender given out? WIS needs someone to tell them its ok to give the GOAT defender Bill Russell a 100 every season.

Posted by pointfwd on 6/19/2017 6:41:00 PM (view original):
When's the award for all time greatest defender given out? WIS needs someone to tell them its ok to give the GOAT defender Bill Russell a 100 every season.

this has happened repeatedly world without end and they don't care

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Shot%	Def Rating	Position Effectiveness
Perimeter	Midrange	Paint		PG	SG	SF	PF	C
13%	61%	27%	100	99%	100%	97%	80%	70%

	GP	Min	Pts	OReb	Reb	FG	FG3	FT	AST	TO	STL	BLK	FL
Per Game	77	37.3	22.7	1.0	3.8	45.0%	34.9%	82.5%	3.2	2.4	2.3	0.8	2.1
Per 48 Min	77	-	29.2	1.2	4.9	45.0%	34.9%	82.5%	4.1	3.1	2.9	1.0	2.6
Totals	77	2869	1748	74	292	690/1533	67/192	301/365	248	186	176	58	158

	Usage%	FG%+	eFG%	OReb%	DReb%	Ast%	Stl%	Blk%
Advanced	25.6	98	47.2	2.5	7.2	9.6	2.4	1.1

why?

why?

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Shot%	Def Rating	Position Effectiveness
Perimeter	Midrange	Paint		PG	SG	SF	PF	C
7%	46%	47%	100	100%	100%	80%	70%	60%

	GP	Min	Pts	OReb	Reb	FG	FG3	FT	AST	TO	STL	BLK	FL
Per Game	29	9.8	2.6	0.4	1.2	38.9%	20.0%	76.0%	1.4	0.6	1.1	0.3	1.1
Per 48 Min	29	-	12.8	2.0	5.7	38.9%	20.0%	76.0%	7.1	3.0	5.6	1.5	5.2
Totals	29	285	76	12	34	28/72	1/5	19/25	42	18	33	9	31

	Usage%	FG%+	eFG%	OReb%	DReb%	Ast%	Stl%	Blk%
Advanced	15.7	86	39.6	4.4	8.5	18.0	5.1	1.8

Posted by copernicus on 6/19/2017 7:46:00 PM (view original):
why?

10-11 Jeremy Lin

6-3, 200 lbs
Point Guard
Golden State Warriors
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Learn more about Jeremy on Basketball-Reference.com

General Ratings

Shot%	Def Rating	Position Effectiveness
Perimeter	Midrange	Paint		PG	SG	SF	PF	C
7%	46%	47%	100	100%	100%	80%	70%	60%

Statistics

	GP	Min	Pts	OReb	Reb	FG	FG3	FT	AST	TO	STL	BLK	FL
Per Game	29	9.8	2.6	0.4	1.2	38.9%	20.0%	76.0%	1.4	0.6	1.1	0.3	1.1
Per 48 Min	29	-	12.8	2.0	5.7	38.9%	20.0%	76.0%	7.1	3.0	5.6	1.5	5.2
Totals	29	285	76	12	34	28/72	1/5	19/25	42	18	33	9	31

	Usage%	FG%+	eFG%	OReb%	DReb%	Ast%	Stl%	Blk%
Advanced	15.7	86	39.6	4.4	8.5	18.0	5.1	1.8

in this case, it's the stl% along with blk%. I can't answer your other one.

McFLY!!!!! i'm off it now, on to baseball and magic

Posted by ashamael on 6/19/2017 8:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by copernicus on 6/19/2017 7:46:00 PM (view original):
why?

10-11 Jeremy Lin

6-3, 200 lbs
Point Guard
Golden State Warriors
Draft this player

Learn more about Jeremy on Basketball-Reference.com

General Ratings

Shot%	Def Rating	Position Effectiveness
Perimeter	Midrange	Paint		PG	SG	SF	PF	C
7%	46%	47%	100	100%	100%	80%	70%	60%

Statistics

	GP	Min	Pts	OReb	Reb	FG	FG3	FT	AST	TO	STL	BLK	FL
Per Game	29	9.8	2.6	0.4	1.2	38.9%	20.0%	76.0%	1.4	0.6	1.1	0.3	1.1
Per 48 Min	29	-	12.8	2.0	5.7	38.9%	20.0%	76.0%	7.1	3.0	5.6	1.5	5.2
Totals	29	285	76	12	34	28/72	1/5	19/25	42	18	33	9	31

	Usage%	FG%+	eFG%	OReb%	DReb%	Ast%	Stl%	Blk%
Advanced	15.7	86	39.6	4.4	8.5	18.0	5.1	1.8

in this case, it's the stl% along with blk%. I can't answer your other one.

maybe they weight steal/block %s differently by position? like a PG w more than 1% blk is like a C with more than 4%? or a C with close to 2% stl is like a PG w close to 4% stl?

but somehow 15-16 Drummond with 2/2 stl/blk % and IRL drting of 98 is a 52? that's bothersome

Posted by copernicus on 6/20/2017 10:59:00 AM (view original):

Posted by ashamael on 6/19/2017 8:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by copernicus on 6/19/2017 7:46:00 PM (view original):
why?

10-11 Jeremy Lin

6-3, 200 lbs
Point Guard
Golden State Warriors
Draft this player

Learn more about Jeremy on Basketball-Reference.com

General Ratings

Shot%	Def Rating	Position Effectiveness
Perimeter	Midrange	Paint		PG	SG	SF	PF	C
7%	46%	47%	100	100%	100%	80%	70%	60%

Statistics

	GP	Min	Pts	OReb	Reb	FG	FG3	FT	AST	TO	STL	BLK	FL
Per Game	29	9.8	2.6	0.4	1.2	38.9%	20.0%	76.0%	1.4	0.6	1.1	0.3	1.1
Per 48 Min	29	-	12.8	2.0	5.7	38.9%	20.0%	76.0%	7.1	3.0	5.6	1.5	5.2
Totals	29	285	76	12	34	28/72	1/5	19/25	42	18	33	9	31

	Usage%	FG%+	eFG%	OReb%	DReb%	Ast%	Stl%	Blk%
Advanced	15.7	86	39.6	4.4	8.5	18.0	5.1	1.8

in this case, it's the stl% along with blk%. I can't answer your other one.

maybe they weight steal/block %s differently by position? like a PG w more than 1% blk is like a C with more than 4%? or a C with close to 2% stl is like a PG w close to 4% stl?

but somehow 15-16 Drummond with 2/2 stl/blk % and IRL drting of 98 is a 52? that's bothersome

I don't disagree with you. But he has over 5% stl%. Find me a guy with over 4% stl% that has a low DR in the sim.

still pending. It's been a week.

Posted by ashamael on 6/20/2017 4:45:00 PM (view original):

Posted by copernicus on 6/20/2017 10:59:00 AM (view original):

Posted by ashamael on 6/19/2017 8:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by copernicus on 6/19/2017 7:46:00 PM (view original):
why?

10-11 Jeremy Lin

6-3, 200 lbs
Point Guard
Golden State Warriors
Draft this player

Learn more about Jeremy on Basketball-Reference.com

General Ratings

Shot%	Def Rating	Position Effectiveness
Perimeter	Midrange	Paint		PG	SG	SF	PF	C
7%	46%	47%	100	100%	100%	80%	70%	60%

Statistics

	GP	Min	Pts	OReb	Reb	FG	FG3	FT	AST	TO	STL	BLK	FL
Per Game	29	9.8	2.6	0.4	1.2	38.9%	20.0%	76.0%	1.4	0.6	1.1	0.3	1.1
Per 48 Min	29	-	12.8	2.0	5.7	38.9%	20.0%	76.0%	7.1	3.0	5.6	1.5	5.2
Totals	29	285	76	12	34	28/72	1/5	19/25	42	18	33	9	31

	Usage%	FG%+	eFG%	OReb%	DReb%	Ast%	Stl%	Blk%
Advanced	15.7	86	39.6	4.4	8.5	18.0	5.1	1.8

in this case, it's the stl% along with blk%. I can't answer your other one.

maybe they weight steal/block %s differently by position? like a PG w more than 1% blk is like a C with more than 4%? or a C with close to 2% stl is like a PG w close to 4% stl?

but somehow 15-16 Drummond with 2/2 stl/blk % and IRL drting of 98 is a 52? that's bothersome

I don't disagree with you. But he has over 5% stl%. Find me a guy with over 4% stl% that has a low DR in the sim.

not questioning your Lin assertion - just making a general observation

meanwhile Lin, Allen, Scurry are the only +4 stl% that are 100 D and they all have 1.8+% blk and Wade has just 2 % stl but his 1.8-2+% block seaons are all 100 too (and his next highest D season is 93 w 'only' 1.4 blk%) which suggests that maybe there is a basement block % to get that 100 rating