Posted by MikeT23 on 4/17/2017 6:05:00 PM (view original):

Posted by colonels19 on 4/17/2017 5:31:00 PM (view original):
He was not qualified...unless he paid on time/when WIS wanted him to...that's pretty ridiculous...especially when Sim AI is goaching them....

WifS tends to NOT take teams from users if they've paid for them. The rules for renewal are pretty clear.

Micet...this is a no win situation for anyone.

TRrrr missed out on his team renewal...NOBODY is coaching Indiana this season because NOBODY was qualified...however had TRrrr paid ON TIME, he would have still been coaching Indiana.

I love that WIS stands on stupid f***ing rules over MAKING REAL US DOLLARS.

I would much rather take $12.95 from a user that has played 139 seasons of my game instead of saying "WE DON'T DO THAT"...this is so f***ing stupid from a business standpoint...SO STUPID.

Using capital letters doesn't make your point more salient.

1. He didn't renew. Sucks.
2. The assumption is he and others applied. None were qualified.
3. SIMAI coaches the team. Game over.

Now what could they have done? They could have assigned the team back to him despite his qualifications. He learns his lesson and it's unlikely that happens again. So, next season, a qualified coach can't have the team. And, as a bonus, every coach who forgets to renew can point and say "You did it for Trrrrrr, why not me?" .

Why not them? If the coaches weren't going to be fired and nobody else has claimed the team, what's the harm in giving them back to the original coaches every time?

Why bother to renew? Why bother to be qualified? Why start in D3? Why shouldn't all of us just pick a team to be assigned to us? So many "Why" so little time.

I thought spud retired.

I hoped you did.

Posted by dahsdebater on 4/17/2017 10:33:00 PM (view original):
Why not them? If the coaches weren't going to be fired and nobody else has claimed the team, what's the harm in giving them back to the original coaches every time?

Dahs is spot on here.

If someone else got the job and was coaching the team, then fine, yes, TRrrr should have renewed on time........BUT in this instance, nobody got the job, so instead of getting/taking TRrrr's $13, WIS stands on (an arguably ridiculous) principle and gets $0.

I love that some of you would rather grandstand on policy, as opposed to getting profit/revenue.

Man, I bet that $13 means a lot to somebody. It's like a quarter a day. Don't overestimate the value of a buck seventy five a week.

Yeah, because a guy that has played 139 seasons was only going to play that 1 extra season and no more...again Micet...would you rather have $13 or $0?

So you're in his head? You know what he'd do? He screwed up. He's quitting. That's what I know.

I wouldn't jump thru hoops for a quarter a day. Would you?

Letting a guy have his team back that he would have been qualified for if he paid on time is "jumping thru hoops"...hardly.

Some of WIS' rules/policies are archaic and damning and they should at the very least look into changing them in the name of keeping customers happy/earning profit.

What TRrrr wants here is not unreasonable at all...it's not like he coached 5 seasons at D3 and was/is now wanting to coach Indiana...he was already there for multiple seasons.

Posted by MikeT23 on 4/17/2017 10:20:00 PM (view original):
Using capital letters doesn't make your point more salient.

1. He didn't renew. Sucks.
2. The assumption is he and others applied. None were qualified.
3. SIMAI coaches the team. Game over.

Now what could they have done? They could have assigned the team back to him despite his qualifications. He learns his lesson and it's unlikely that happens again. So, next season, a qualified coach can't have the team. And, as a bonus, every coach who forgets to renew can point and say "You did it for Trrrrrr, why not me?" .

This biggest problem with this logic of he was no longer qualified is that the team prestige was raised while he was there. So yes, his current coaching status was too low apparently for the B+ prestige that he got the team to from C+. He also got the team into a 2nd round NT when the team hadn't achieved that in 8 seasons. The teams performance improved virtually every season that he was there. The logic provided by WIS and that you are standing behind based on performance is absolute bullshit.

Sure he did not renew and that was his fault, but look at "SIM" resume at Indiana before TRrr got there and tell me how much better they were? Justify to me how a SIM who takes an A prestige team to C+ is better than a paying user coach who took the team from that C+, back to B+.

I think Admin has often stated the policy that one can get it back if no one has applied. This is a case where that policy feels silly - that the policy should be - you can get it back if no one qualfieid applies. But that isnt what has been historically said, I think.

I can see a good argument for changing the policy, but it is what has been said.

Especially tough in 3.0 where going to a different job is harder - with first season recruiting by new coaches made difficult by new recruiting schedule

motto - autorenew is good if one wants to continue in this game. (I'm playing on credits - not convinced I want to spend money on the new game - but set to renew)

Posted by colonels19 on 4/17/2017 11:31:00 PM (view original):
Letting a guy have his team back that he would have been qualified for if he paid on time is "jumping thru hoops"...hardly.

Some of WIS' rules/policies are archaic and damning and they should at the very least look into changing them in the name of keeping customers happy/earning profit.

What TRrrr wants here is not unreasonable at all...it's not like he coached 5 seasons at D3 and was/is now wanting to coach Indiana...he was already there for multiple seasons.

We know the firing logic is poor. But, as I said when I first addressed you(which I normally don't and now recall why), WifS does not like to take teams from owners. So the firing logic is set to "difficult" because they don't want to do it. He re-applied, he was not qualified. The circumstances may be murky but it is what it is.

And, yes, it's jumping thru hoops. The renewal process is easy. Setting a precedent is not good unless you want to do it over and over and over again.

FWIW, someone said that WifS has done it before. If so, use those examples(although it's probably way too late at this point).