There's evidence of the impact that Trump has. Look at how many people immediately flipped on masks the second Trump wore one.

So you seem to be saying that a lot of people think Trump is a good leader and someone they should follow. Not sure I agree, but it's YOU saying that's what he is.
Would love to see where those mask numbers came from, because the people I see not wearing masks, and arguing that the pandemic is not as dangerous as it is, certainly don't fit the demographics by Party. They are, for the most part, young and/or minority. Are your personal observations different?

There are millions of people who think Trump is a great leader, and will do whatever he says.
Of course it is a very small sample size, but most of the people I see not wearing masks and making a big stink about having to wear a mask have been older people, and Trump supporters. Not that I know a lot of young people, but all of my kids and my kids friends are very good about wearing masks in public.

Posted by all3 on 7/29/2020 7:16:00 PM (view original):
So you seem to be saying that a lot of people think Trump is a good leader and someone they should follow. Not sure I agree, but it's YOU saying that's what he is.
Would love to see where those mask numbers came from, because the people I see not wearing masks, and arguing that the pandemic is not as dangerous as it is, certainly don't fit the demographics by Party. They are, for the most part, young and/or minority. Are your personal observations different?

My personal observations are it’s all old white men not wearing masks.

your first sentence is just so embarrassing. even for you.

With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???


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" It's all old white men not wearing masks." Had to laugh my LMAO at that obvious exaggeration/twist of the truth. You've NEVER seen even one single non-white, or one single female, or one single minority in public without a mask? Yeah, OK. Keep undermining your own credibility.

As far as Trump and his leadership, it's what YOU are saying, not me. Be embarrassed for your self.

Many of my 35 year old son's friends are walking around b*tching about masks and half-wearing them around their necks or maybe covering their mouths, as are the 20-something friends of many of my friends' children. My friends on the other hand are mostly scared as **** of Covid, and wouldn't think of going out in public without a mask properly in place. Combining those facts with what else I see in public, I'm getting a much different picture than you guys are presenting. I know different areas are different, but man this seems extreme.

Uofa, didn't you say that you have some sort of polling on this? No one can prove anything by trading anecdotes.

Posted by all3 on 7/30/2020 9:59:00 AM (view original):
" It's all old white men not wearing masks." Had to laugh my LMAO at that obvious exaggeration/twist of the truth. You've NEVER seen even one single non-white, or one single female, or one single minority in public without a mask? Yeah, OK. Keep undermining your own credibility.

As far as Trump and his leadership, it's what YOU are saying, not me. Be embarrassed for your self.

Many of my 35 year old son's friends are walking around b*tching about masks and half-wearing them around their necks or maybe covering their mouths, as are the 20-something friends of many of my friends' children. My friends on the other hand are mostly scared as **** of Covid, and wouldn't think of going out in public without a mask properly in place. Combining those facts with what else I see in public, I'm getting a much different picture than you guys are presenting. I know different areas are different, but man this seems extreme.

You asked for what I've seen: It's mostly old white men from what I've seen, like 90%. Of course you glob on to some bullshit debate technique. I'll make sure to choose my words more carefully, I know how much you hate twisting things.

The polling I've seen is just republican/Democrat based, haven't seen anything on age, gender, etc. Its something like 75% overall wear one everywhere though.

Here's a gallup poll.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/315590/americans-face-mask-usage-varies-greatly-demographics.aspx

Question asked: How often do you wear a mask when outside your home?

	Always	Very Often	Sometimes	Rarely	Never
Democrats	61%	33%	4%	1%	1%
Republicans	24%	22%	18%	9%	27%

(Young people and old people are about equally likely to wear masks)

Here's a Pew Poll from a month ago: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/06/23/most-americans-say-they-regularly-wore-a-mask-in-stores-in-the-past-month-fewer-see-others-doing-it/

88% of Democrats wear masks all or most of the time, compared to 72% of Republicans.

Someone quote that so all3 sees it please

Posted by tangplay on 7/30/2020 12:22:00 PM (view original):
Here's a gallup poll.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/315590/americans-face-mask-usage-varies-greatly-demographics.aspx

Question asked: How often do you wear a mask when outside your home?

	Always	Very Often	Sometimes	Rarely	Never
Democrats	61%	33%	4%	1%	1%
Republicans	24%	22%	18%	9%	27%

(Young people and old people are about equally likely to wear masks)

Here's a Pew Poll from a month ago: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/06/23/most-americans-say-they-regularly-wore-a-mask-in-stores-in-the-past-month-fewer-see-others-doing-it/

88% of Democrats wear masks all or most of the time, compared to 72% of Republicans.

Updated numbers better than previously, at least

NEW
@RedfieldWilton
Poll (7/19-24):
#Wisconsin: Biden 45% (+10) Trump 35% Jorgensen 2% West 2% Hawkins 0%
#Arizona: Biden 46% (+8) Trump 38% Jorgensen 2% West 2% Hawkins 1%
#Pennsylvania: Biden 48% (+7) Trump 41% Jorgensen 1% West 1% Hawkins 0%

Thanks for the numbers. Like I said, those mask numbers certainly don't jive with what I see in south central PA - not even close. Also in PA, without Philly, those election numbers would be about 70% Trump and 30% Biden. I base that on the number of signs and bumper stickers I see in my travels, and am being conservative toward Biden even. I think EVERYONE should ALWAYS be wearing a mask when around anyone else in public. I know the Poll numbers don't go my way, but just stating what I see (as I would even if the numbers were reversed - not that a July poll means much come November, as 2016 proved).

I stg if all3 keeps up the narrative that "people just do as they do, the President doesn't hold the responsibility" even after being proven wrong.

all3 has NO credibility left at all with me!