It looks like the stats in the "Kicking & Punting" section of Pro Football Reference have become corrupted. It was not previously so difficult to locate the punting stats or accurate kicking stats.

I say we remove the requirement for Kicker and Punter for your school. Spend whatever you want. Makes it more interesting for the roster construct.

You could get the best K or P, or go the minimum salary route, or somewhere in between. Takes out the disadvantage for some schools without good options and allows more schools to be eligible.

I will sitemail everyone on the revision and update the page 1 rules in the next 24 hrs.

I understand allowing this for teams without an eligible punter and/or kicker in the NFL, but if we're allowing every team to select a punter or kicker from any school it pretty much invalidates the theme. Not sure I'm in if we're straying that far from the theme. Even for teams without an eligible alumni kicker and/or punter, shouldn't we at least stipulate that their choices not be an alumnus of one of the other schools in the league?

I’m fine either way. I feel like the WIS game engine doesn’t make kickers/punters valuable enough to lose any sleep over it.

There have been a lot of college alumni theme leagues, and the few exceptions I've ever seen made have been for schools that don't have a qualified kicker and/or punter. In those cases, they were allowed to select any unattached (to another school in the league) replacement.

I most strongly agree with kilgore that our opponents should not be allowed to draft players from schools selected. We must assume that they were aware of their deficiencies prior to committing. And again, it would detract from the very core of this theme.

Thanks everyone for the feedback. All fair points made. I did consider the kicker and punter to be exclusive, but explaining it and monitoring it was not worth it in my opinion. The draw for this is not the better kicker at one school vs another. Having 21 of 23 roster positions from a school is enough, but we will settle with the exclusive kicker/punter from any school not selected by another owner.

The hope is to get more people joining. Thus, being less restrictive on the kicker and punter can help that effort. And also lends itself to more ways to strategically build your team. Lets see some new teams! And please post here or sitemail me any kicker or punter changes, so we can keep the K and P exclusivity intact.

I would like the University of Oklahoma as a second team.

Offensive Line: 2012 Washington Redskins, Trent Williams and Chris Chester
Defense: 1979 Tampa Bay, Dewey Selmon and Lee Roy Selmon
Special Teams: 1990 Dallas, Derrick Shepard

I'll look into putting together an Arkansas team. Hopefully, any of us putting in 2 teams can have them placed in separate conferences while still maintaining geographic fits in each of the divisions.

Yes, we will split the 2 team owners with 1 in each conference. And, we'll do our best for the geo-fit divisions.

For my 2nd team, I will take Illinois.

We have 15 teams now! For those that have reserved a team, but not yet entered the league, please get your team entered when you can. If you have questions on the roster search or build using pro-football-reference.com, please post here or sitemail me. 9 spots left!

Representatives for the Fighting Illini:

Off Line: G- Nick Allegretti. 2021 Kansas City Chiefs OL
Defense: LB Scott Studwell. 1989 Minnesota Vikings Def.
Special Teams: HB/RB Johnny Counts. 1963 New York Giants ST.
Kicker: Neil Rackers
Punter: Steve Weatherford

In with the Georgia Bulldogs. DEF: Arnold Harrison LB 2007 Steelers. OL: Guy McIntyre LG 1991 '49ers. STU: Andy Johnson KR-PR 1975 Patriots.

8 spots left. On page 5 of this forum, there is a list of available schools with some notable players. If you are stopping by for the first time, please don't hesitate to post any questions. Myself or any of the committed owners are happy to assist on searching for your players.

We use pro-football-reference.com to locate your alumni. Then, you compare with the whatif listings for the salary and ratings for each player and OL, DEF and ST. We encourage you to use the kicker or punter from your school, but should you have little or no options, you may select a K or P from another school that is vacant and not selected by another owner. Football is back! Join us.

I'll take Clemson for a 2nd team.

Razorbacks are in:
Defense - 1984 Chicago Bears - Dan Hampton, DT
OL - 2013 Philadelphia Eagles - Jason Peters, LT
ST - 1986 Seattle Seahawks - Bobby Joe Edmonds, PR and KOR