Posted by robusk on 1/7/2019 8:36:00 PM (view original):
And yeah man. I play this league to win it because it is generally the best league on the site. It’s not fun when the resource pool is not equitably distributed. But that’s just me. I am the only one who feels that way so I shouldn’t stick around and ruin it for everyone else. Enough picks have gone by that it would be bad for the league to reverse them.

Well count me as one who is not happy about it but not enough to drop out. I respect your opinion though and will miss your commentary as I have learned a great deal from it. Hoping you reconsider and stick around.

Could just not allow draft trades

Posted by NotoriousJ on 1/7/2019 8:47:00 PM (view original):
Could just not allow draft trades

That’s overly harsh. It’s not that hard to make them fair. There were two other trades already on the draft. There have been others in other ODLs. Some fair some not. We have to self police and keep it fair is all.

Hate to see you leave Robusk, you have faired extremely well in this league. Unfortunately it feels like this is what I expect from being in leagues with Ben. Unlike yourself and ashamael, he does not seem to care too much about informing newer/less successful owners or ever really what's fair, he treats this game like a business and he's out for himself. I don't like it and I will never join another progressive league that he is a part of, but it is whats to be expected when being in a league with Ben that allows trades.
Hopefully you will change your mind, some replacement owners have already turned this first round into a bit of a joke. I am sure you will do just fine with your current picks.

Ok but I just want to point out that someone took the Chief in the first round so what's a pick worth anyway?

Posted by copernicus on 1/7/2019 9:20:00 PM (view original):
Ok but I just want to point out that someone took the Chief in the first round so what's a pick worth anyway?

I figured he just hates high salaries lol

Posted by 24kpyrite on 1/7/2019 9:04:00 PM (view original):
Hate to see you leave Robusk, you have faired extremely well in this league. Unfortunately it feels like this is what I expect from being in leagues with Ben. Unlike yourself and ashamael, he does not seem to care too much about informing newer/less successful owners or ever really what's fair, he treats this game like a business and he's out for himself. I don't like it and I will never join another progressive league that he is a part of, but it is whats to be expected when being in a league with Ben that allows trades.
Hopefully you will change your mind, some replacement owners have already turned this first round into a bit of a joke. I am sure you will do just fine with your current picks.

Thanks man. I was discussing this with someone else, but for like 5 or so years on this site I exclusively did progressives. It just seemed like the most fun and they were. I was in every progressive, I commished one for a bit. But I had to over time quit everyone because one to a couple of people would just destroy the quality of the league by slowly exploiting every newish owner with five dimes for a buck trades and screw the league all up. I have mostly done draft leagues and some themes since thinking it wouldn't be as bad but it is happening in the draft leagues now too. There is a need to consider the community sometimes man, help it develop.

I was supposed to quit so you wouldn't see me complaining. :)

Also, Parish in the first is one for the record books.

Posted by copernicus on 1/7/2019 9:20:00 PM (view original):
Ok but I just want to point out that someone took the Chief in the first round so what's a pick worth anyway?

Hahaha, Right? Every league needs stupid owners. Ben just exploits them the best. With that i take...

John Stockton

Average draft position for every player sent to the guy who picked Parish

ADP is a good primer. Parrish is a great pick in this league. You have to learn that you could aggressively nab him in the third round if you want, but you would already have a kick-@$$ pg and pf in place when you do so.

hold up....dont quit just yet robusk

ben...im calling for a veto

you need to amend that trade...no one gets back a 2,3 AND a 4 for a 1st....you know this...dont take advantage of a new owner...as commissioner of this league you need to aqct with better judgement...dont ruin this for everyone...we dont need to stop the draft or anything...just get that 4 out of the trade and lets keep it moving without anyone quitting please

if a new owner wants to draft parish in the 1st...thats on them..they will learn from it...hell i drafted spencer haywood in the 2nd in my very first odl...then took dale ellis a round later...bad picks only affect the one team...but a bad trade affects all of us because now its gonna be that much harder to beat ben

to simplify this...

ben has an extra 4th and 5th instead of his 6th round pick

are you cool with this?....i know im not

The voice of reason

I'll give him back his 4th for the 5th I gave up. If everyone is okay with that then we are good. It would be 1,6 for 2,3. That trades been done plenty in this league.