Obama: Worst President Ever? Topic

"Seemingly starting to work" and "will be enough to bring about major change to one of the largest and most complicated industries in the country" are two different things.

But you're an idiot, so you don't understand.
11/20/2015 4:58 PM
No one expects you to get it, tec. It's ok to stop trying.
11/20/2015 4:59 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 11/20/2015 4:58:00 PM (view original):
"Seemingly starting to work" and "will be enough to bring about major change to one of the largest and most complicated industries in the country" are two different things.

But you're an idiot, so you don't understand.
11/20/2015 5:02 PM
You do this all the time. You argue something stupid and then, when you're exposed (again) as an idiot, you choose to cling to semantics and pick apart how someone phrased something instead of actually engaging in the topic.

So here's how it is:

You: ***** that the ACA doesn't do anything to reduce "healthcare costs."

Reducing healthcare costs is a valid concern. 

Me: What would you suggest we do about costs?

You: No clue

Me: Well, the ACA has provisions to address costs

You: THEY AREN'T WORKING

Me: Well, the ACA has only been in full effect since 2014. We should probably give it time, considering the fact that it seems to be cutting costs and slowing premium growth.

You:

 

11/20/2015 5:20 PM
LOL.

In a 20 minute span, in your own words, you went from stating that "it's a fact that the ACA is already reducing costs" to stating "we don't know if it will reduce costs".  In other words, you have no ******* clue about what's happening, yet you are somehow sure that you're right when you can't even make a consistent argument.

Sounds to me like the person arguing something stupid might the one typing on your keyboard.
11/20/2015 6:49 PM
 
  I call these BLownies.  They go good with Kool Aid.
11/20/2015 7:03 PM (edited)
Posted by bad_luck on 11/20/2015 2:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 11/20/2015 2:21:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/20/2015 2:09:00 PM (view original):
The ACA clearly contains provisions designed to contain costs. You admit that you lack the ability to evaluate those provisions, so stop ********.
Yet, despite the quotes you keep posting, there is no practical evidence, as in what people are actually experiencing, that supports the assertion that healthcare costs are going down.

Why do you support that is?  Could it just be rhetoric and lies?



The ACA didn't go into full effect until 2014. I don't know what kind of turn around you expected the entire health care industry to take in one year. Maybe you should re-evaluate your expectations.
Says the guy that just tried to post 2009-2014 statistics in an attempt to prove premiums are instantly down because of obamacare. Now it's not fully implemented. Lol.
11/20/2015 7:45 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 11/20/2015 6:50:00 PM (view original):
LOL.

In a 20 minute span, in your own words, you went from stating that "it's a fact that the ACA is already reducing costs" to stating "we don't know if it will reduce costs".  In other words, you have no ******* clue about what's happening, yet you are somehow sure that you're right when you can't even make a consistent argument.

Sounds to me like the person arguing something stupid might the one typing on your keyboard.
Even you understand the difference between "it seems like it's starting to work" and "is a sure thing to completely turn around a massive system."

Right?

Or am I giving you too much credit?
11/20/2015 8:38 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 11/20/2015 8:38:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 11/20/2015 6:50:00 PM (view original):
LOL.

In a 20 minute span, in your own words, you went from stating that "it's a fact that the ACA is already reducing costs" to stating "we don't know if it will reduce costs".  In other words, you have no ******* clue about what's happening, yet you are somehow sure that you're right when you can't even make a consistent argument.

Sounds to me like the person arguing something stupid might the one typing on your keyboard.
Even you understand the difference between "it seems like it's starting to work" and "is a sure thing to completely turn around a massive system."

Right?

Or am I giving you too much credit?
It looked like they were going down at a faster rate before 2009, no?
11/20/2015 8:54 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 11/20/2015 4:47:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/20/2015 3:44:00 PM (view original):
No one knows for sure if they will work. But it's something. Which is a lot more than you or any republican has offered up.
LOL.

BL, 3:24PM - ". . . considering the fact that they are already working".

BL, 3:44PM - "No one knows for sure if they will work".

The wind must have shifted direction.
Just goes to show you can't argue with someone who plays both sides of an issue. BL is always right and always wrong at the same time.
He can prove all by himself that he is the real idiot.
11/20/2015 10:32 PM
Just wondering........... Did Obama tell the people on that Russian plane and the people in Paris and Belgium and Mali that ISIS is contained like he told the American people?
11/20/2015 10:34 PM
  Don't be silly.  Alls you have to do is let them in.  Then give them jobs or benefits we don't have and can't afford.  Then give the little ones a free ride.  Free education. And watch them kill people while they blow up the Boston Marathon.
11/20/2015 10:46 PM

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — President Barack Obama vowed Sunday that the United States and its international partners "will not relent" in the fight against the Islamic State group, insisting the world would not accept the extremists' attacks on civilians in Paris and elsewhere as the "new normal."

"The most powerful tool we have is to say we are not afraid," Obama said as he wrapped up a nine-day trip to Turkey and Asia that was shadowed by terror attacks.
HEY DUMBA$$, ISIS DOESN'T CARE IF WE ARE AFRAID OR NOT.

The president also pressed Russian President Vladimir Putin to align himself with the U.S.-led coalition, noting that the Islamic State has been accused of bringing down a Russian passenger jet last month, killing 224 people.

"He needs to go after the people who killed Russian citizens," he said of Putin.

The president spoke in Malaysia shortly before departing for Washington. His trip also took him to the Philippines and Turkey, where he met with Putin on the sidelines of an international summit.

While Russia has stepped up its air campaign in Syria, Obama said Moscow has focused its attention on moderate rebels fighting Syrian President Bashar Assad, a Russian ally. He called on Russia to make a "strategic adjustment" and drop its support for Assad, insisting the violence in Syria cannot be stopped as long as Assad is in office.

"It will not work to keep him in power," Obama said. "We can't stop the fighting."
HERE HE ADMITS HE CAN'T BEAT ISIS

Nearly five years of fighting between the Assad government and rebels has created a vacuum that allowed the Islamic State to thrive in both Syria and Iraq. The militant group is now setting its sights on targets outside its stronghold, including the attacks in Paris that killed 130 people and wounded hundreds more.

French President Francois Hollande is due to meet with Obama at the White House on Tuesday to discuss ways to bolster the international coalition fighting the Islamic State. Hollande then heads to Russia for talks with Putin.

The discussions about a military coalition to defeat the Islamic State come amid parallel talks about a diplomatic solution to end Syria's civil war. The violence has killed more than 250,000 people and displaced millions, sparking a refugee crisis in Europe.

Foreign ministers from about 20 nations agreed last week to an ambitious yet incomplete plan that sets a Jan. 1 deadline for the start of negotiations between Assad's government and opposition groups. Within six months, the negotiations are to establish a "credible, inclusive and non-sectarian" transitional government that would set a schedule for drafting a new constitution and holding a free and fair U.N.-supervised election within 18 months.

The Paris attacks have heightened fears of terrorism in the West and also sparked a debate in the U.S. about accepting refugees from Syria. It's unclear whether any of the terrorists in the Paris attacks exploited the refugee system to enter Europe, though Obama has insisted that's not a legitimate security threat in the United States.

"Refugees who end up in the United States are the most vetted, scrutinized, thoroughly investigated individuals that ever arrive on American shores," Obama said.

Still, the House passed legislation last week essentially blocking Syrian and Iraqi refugees from the U.S. Democrats in large numbers abandoned the president, with 47 voting for the legislation. Having secured a veto-proof majority in the House, supporters are now hoping for a repeat in the Senate, while Obama works to shift the conversation to milder visa waiver changes that wouldn't affect Syrian refugees.

Obama has focused his ire on Republicans throughout the trip, harshly criticizing GOP lawmakers and presidential candidates for acting contrary to American values. He took a softer tone Sunday, saying he understands Americans' concerns but urging them not to give into fear. 
DESPITE THE FACT HE UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT HE IS WILLING TO DO THE OPPOSITE.

He said the Islamic State "can't beat us on the battlefield so they try to terrorize us into being afraid."
AND WHICH BATTLE HAVE YOU WON AGAINST THEM? 

Speaking dismissively of the Islamic State's global prowess, Obama said, "They're a bunch of killers with good social media."
HE STILL THINKS THEY ARE WEAK AND TO NOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY, SUGGESTING THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA IS THE ONLY THING THEY ARE GOOD AT.

11/22/2015 9:11 AM

The number of Americans filing for unemployment benefits fell more than expected last week, drifting back to near 42-year lows as labor market conditions continue to tighten.

Initial claims for state unemployment benefits declined 12,000 to a seasonally adjusted 260,000 for the week ended Nov. 21, the Labor Department said on Wednesday.

The prior week's claims were revised to show 1,000 more applications received than previously reported. Claims have now held below the 300,000 threshold for 38 consecutive weeks, the longest stretch in years, and remain close to levels last seen in the early 1970s. Claims below this level are usually associated with a healthy jobs market.

Economists polled by Reuters had forecast claims dipping to 270,000 last week. A Labor Department analyst said there were no special factors influencing the data and only claims for Louisiana had been estimated.

11/25/2015 1:24 PM
That's interesting.  Could you please take a minute to fill us in?  

I see four lines.  I think I speak for everybody when I say, we would like you to elaborate on each of the four points you have made. 

Thanks in advance for elaborating on the four bullet points we all know you will follow through with.  We respect your knowledge on all things political and especially your uncanny intelligence on employment and financial matters.  Thanks again.  I can hardly wait.
11/25/2015 8:47 PM
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