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Posted by strikeout26 on 3/22/2018 11:53:00 PM (view original):
What facts?

1. We have a strong economy.
2. He did away with the Obamacare mandate (now I'm not forced to buy a product I don't want)
3. He got our corporate taxes rate closer to being in line with the rest of the world.
4. Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
5. He cut regulations for small businesses. I know you're not a business owner. But the regulations were killing us.
6. He declared Jerusalem the capital.
7. He has gotten ISIS under control. Something Obama couldn't do.

His resume looks pretty go so far. Now give me your "facts" as to where he has not done a good job.
most of that is not true or good.
we dont have a strong economy...he inherited a good economy...we are going to have a meltdown.
most people support obamacare..i repeat..most people like obamacare...trump is driving up premiums.
tax rates craprates....we have giant deductions and credits......he sliced too much..we are going to have a tuna melt.
declaring jerusulem the capital doesnt help the usa.....im not even sure it helps israel.
obama was very steadily crushing isis...give or take 3-4 months the same result with obama.
3/23/2018 12:07 AM
Posted by strikeout26 on 3/22/2018 11:54:00 PM (view original):
And yes, at the end of the first year, they had a similar approval rating.
what is your poll.
3/23/2018 12:08 AM
my china prediction

i think that china will attempt a negotiation.....it wont be giving away the store...far from surrender but they will offer something to reduce the imbalance.
if trump accepts it he will look good...if there is a trade war...then he has more haters.
3/23/2018 12:11 AM
if he can do such a ballsy thing with china it is even more proof that he is compromised by russia
3/23/2018 12:18 AM
Posted by strikeout26 on 3/22/2018 11:53:00 PM (view original):
What facts?

1. We have a strong economy.
2. He did away with the Obamacare mandate (now I'm not forced to buy a product I don't want)
3. He got our corporate taxes rate closer to being in line with the rest of the world.
4. Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
5. He cut regulations for small businesses. I know you're not a business owner. But the regulations were killing us.
6. He declared Jerusalem the capital.
7. He has gotten ISIS under control. Something Obama couldn't do.

His resume looks pretty go so far. Now give me your "facts" as to where he has not done a good job.
1. Our economy has been strong for years.
2. I'm torn on the mandate, but I'm not sure why people don't want to buy medical insurance. One case of cancer without insurance(and even with) and you are financially ruined.
3. There was nothing wrong with our tax rates. What the rate was and what the effective rate was, were two entirely different beasts. Until we do something to lower our wages to what a lot of the foreign countries pay, jobs aren't coming back
4. LOL...he gets no credit for a nomination to the Supreme Court. That was highway robbery and everyone knows it. If you support the move the Republicans made, then you don't support our constitution.
5. He's also cutting regulations that were put in place to prevent financial meltdowns like we saw in 2009. Rolling back consumer protections for the good of the corporation. The latest is financial services providers no longer having to look out for their clients best interest. He's rolled back environmental protections against drilling in places we don't need to drill....of course he gives Florida an exemption when he finds out there will probably be drilling off Mar-A-Lago.
6. Big ******* deal
7. Isis was becoming more and more under control and it was just a matter of time. he basically used the same strategy that Obama did. He gets little to no credit for that, just like Obama gets little to none for ending the Iraq War. He just went with the same playbook that was being used.
3/23/2018 12:30 AM (edited)
Posted by dino27 on 3/23/2018 12:07:00 AM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 3/22/2018 11:53:00 PM (view original):
What facts?

1. We have a strong economy.
2. He did away with the Obamacare mandate (now I'm not forced to buy a product I don't want)
3. He got our corporate taxes rate closer to being in line with the rest of the world.
4. Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
5. He cut regulations for small businesses. I know you're not a business owner. But the regulations were killing us.
6. He declared Jerusalem the capital.
7. He has gotten ISIS under control. Something Obama couldn't do.

His resume looks pretty go so far. Now give me your "facts" as to where he has not done a good job.
most of that is not true or good.
we dont have a strong economy...he inherited a good economy...we are going to have a meltdown.
most people support obamacare..i repeat..most people like obamacare...trump is driving up premiums.
tax rates craprates....we have giant deductions and credits......he sliced too much..we are going to have a tuna melt.
declaring jerusulem the capital doesnt help the usa.....im not even sure it helps israel.
obama was very steadily crushing isis...give or take 3-4 months the same result with obama.
Yup..and Dino is right, he is overheating the economy. Any economist worth his salt will tell you he ****** up by giving the tax cuts when he did. Not going to do anything extra but raise the deficit, interest rates, and inflation. We were already at full employment.
3/23/2018 12:29 AM
thats a right.
the usa is the service provider leader..thats our great export.......its not like we have no factories here.
3/23/2018 12:33 AM
everything he did went against the rules of maintaining a stable economy.
3/23/2018 12:35 AM
cars would be cheaper if there were no seatbelts but seatbelts are mandated and wearing them is the law...you have to buy a helmet and wear it to ride a mc....you have to pay into soc. sec.......you do not have control over where your tax money goes.....
the mandate is many faceted in objectives.....forcing people to be responsible to themselves and society is correct......i have no wavering on that.
you have to buy car insurance..another example.
3/23/2018 12:45 AM
Posted by strikeout26 on 3/22/2018 11:58:00 PM (view original):
You can me two biased links and something that I have no clue where it came from. I gave you an actual reputable polling company.
538 isn't biased. The other came from HuffPo. You gave me nothing.
3/23/2018 1:07 AM
Posted by strikeout26 on 3/23/2018 12:00:00 AM (view original):
Yes he does have low polling. I never argued that, but in December 2017 and December 2009, their numbers were very close.
SIMPLY NOT TRUE. OBAMA WAS AROUND 45-50, TRUMP WAS AT 40.
3/23/2018 1:08 AM
Posted by tangplay on 3/23/2018 1:07:00 AM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 3/22/2018 11:58:00 PM (view original):
You can me two biased links and something that I have no clue where it came from. I gave you an actual reputable polling company.
538 isn't biased. The other came from HuffPo. You gave me nothing.
538 was the only place giving Trump a chance at all.
3/23/2018 1:19 AM
Posted by dino27 on 3/23/2018 12:46:00 AM (view original):
cars would be cheaper if there were no seatbelts but seatbelts are mandated and wearing them is the law...you have to buy a helmet and wear it to ride a mc....you have to pay into soc. sec.......you do not have control over where your tax money goes.....
the mandate is many faceted in objectives.....forcing people to be responsible to themselves and society is correct......i have no wavering on that.
you have to buy car insurance..another example.
i can't throw kids in the back of the pickup truck at 11 am, drop them off at the river, and pick them back up at 6 pm

the nanny state sucks in many many ways
3/23/2018 1:20 AM
Posted by dino27 on 3/23/2018 12:46:00 AM (view original):
cars would be cheaper if there were no seatbelts but seatbelts are mandated and wearing them is the law...you have to buy a helmet and wear it to ride a mc....you have to pay into soc. sec.......you do not have control over where your tax money goes.....
the mandate is many faceted in objectives.....forcing people to be responsible to themselves and society is correct......i have no wavering on that.
you have to buy car insurance..another example.
This is the stupidest post you've ever posted. I don't have to buy the motorcycle. I don't have to buy a car. Social security is ridiculous. I could take that same money and get much, much better returns in other investments, so I wouldn't brag about such a stupid program. Forcing people to be responsible is not correct. You libs just don't give a crap about freedoms, which need I remind you, is what our country was founded on. Guess what, I don't have to buy car insurance. I have the option of not driving. Terrible example. You're smarter than Dino. You've proven it many times. Don't get sucked into the liberal stupidity by repeating stupid talking points.
3/23/2018 7:06 AM
aren't you the guy who wants to to take away a woman's choice for abortion? why do you pick and choose which freedoms you want to mandate upon someone?
3/23/2018 8:25 AM
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