Posted by samuelyork93 on 3/17/2025 10:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by K123456789 on 3/17/2025 8:32:00 PM (view original):
8) samuelyork93 - Dwight Howard, Jimmy Butler, Horace Grant, Jayson Tatum, Scottie Barnes, Steven Adams, Isaiah Hartenstein

Howard was a guy I was hoping would fall to me last season as he is one of the few with the high usage / high eFG% that makes building a good offense much easier (plus he's great at D and rebounding). The problem I see is that Butler, Tatum, and Barnes all have higher usage than Howard and their eFG% pale in comparison to his 61+. I have mixed feelings about Tatum in particular; great rebounding for a guard and he soaks up a lot of usage - just not clear he is really the one you want taking shots with a 55% eFG%. I think this will be a ~.500 team.

Thanks for the input!! I originally wanted a higher usage Dwight but I lost the other pieces I wanted to add around him and Tatum in the 4th was hard to pass up. I am by no means an expert but it's jarring for me to see someone say 55 eFG isn't high, not everybody can Jokic or Giannis. When I look at scoring efficiency I do not only look at eFG I also look at tov%. Jimmy and Tatum both have under 10.5 tov% which I think is pretty darn good and also super important.
Something I also like to look at is Points Per Possession. Now, it isn't a stat that WIS tracks so it may be useless but it's a stat I look at for my high usage players. For comparison, Nikola Jokic (23-24), who we can all agree is crazy offensively in the sim and IRL, has a points per possession stat of 1.21 points/possession. Jimmy Butler's (22-23) is 1.3 Points/possession and Tatum's (23-24) is 1.27 points/possession. The Dwight Howard season I am using (09-10) is only 1.12 points/possession despite the +60 efg%. The season I wanted to use (10-11) is only slightly better at 1.17 points per possession.
Just my thoughts, the state of the game may dictate higher efgs than I I am used to, but we will have to see.

Posted by samuelyork93 on 3/17/2025 10:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by K123456789 on 3/17/2025 8:32:00 PM (view original):
8) samuelyork93 - Dwight Howard, Jimmy Butler, Horace Grant, Jayson Tatum, Scottie Barnes, Steven Adams, Isaiah Hartenstein

Howard was a guy I was hoping would fall to me last season as he is one of the few with the high usage / high eFG% that makes building a good offense much easier (plus he's great at D and rebounding). The problem I see is that Butler, Tatum, and Barnes all have higher usage than Howard and their eFG% pale in comparison to his 61+. I have mixed feelings about Tatum in particular; great rebounding for a guard and he soaks up a lot of usage - just not clear he is really the one you want taking shots with a 55% eFG%. I think this will be a ~.500 team.

Thanks for the input!! I originally wanted a higher usage Dwight but I lost the other pieces I wanted to add around him and Tatum in the 4th was hard to pass up. I am by no means an expert but it's jarring for me to see someone say 55 eFG isn't high, not everybody can Jokic or Giannis. When I look at scoring efficiency I do not only look at eFG I also look at tov%. Jimmy and Tatum both have under 10.5 tov% which I think is pretty darn good and also super important.
Something I also like to look at is Points Per Possession. Now, it isn't a stat that WIS tracks so it may be useless but it's a stat I look at for my high usage players. For comparison, Nikola Jokic (23-24), who we can all agree is crazy offensively in the sim and IRL, has a points per possession stat of 1.21 points/possession. Jimmy Butler's (22-23) is 1.3 Points/possession and Tatum's (23-24) is 1.27 points/possession. The Dwight Howard season I am using (09-10) is only 1.12 points/possession despite the +60 efg%. The season I wanted to use (10-11) is only slightly better at 1.17 points per possession.
Just my thoughts, the state of the game may dictate higher efgs than I I am used to, but we will have to see.

Posted by dBKC on 3/17/2025 10:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by samuelyork93 on 3/17/2025 10:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by K123456789 on 3/17/2025 8:32:00 PM (view original):
8) samuelyork93 - Dwight Howard, Jimmy Butler, Horace Grant, Jayson Tatum, Scottie Barnes, Steven Adams, Isaiah Hartenstein

Howard was a guy I was hoping would fall to me last season as he is one of the few with the high usage / high eFG% that makes building a good offense much easier (plus he's great at D and rebounding). The problem I see is that Butler, Tatum, and Barnes all have higher usage than Howard and their eFG% pale in comparison to his 61+. I have mixed feelings about Tatum in particular; great rebounding for a guard and he soaks up a lot of usage - just not clear he is really the one you want taking shots with a 55% eFG%. I think this will be a ~.500 team.

Thanks for the input!! I originally wanted a higher usage Dwight but I lost the other pieces I wanted to add around him and Tatum in the 4th was hard to pass up. I am by no means an expert but it's jarring for me to see someone say 55 eFG isn't high, not everybody can Jokic or Giannis. When I look at scoring efficiency I do not only look at eFG I also look at tov%. Jimmy and Tatum both have under 10.5 tov% which I think is pretty darn good and also super important.
Something I also like to look at is Points Per Possession. Now, it isn't a stat that WIS tracks so it may be useless but it's a stat I look at for my high usage players. For comparison, Nikola Jokic (23-24), who we can all agree is crazy offensively in the sim and IRL, has a points per possession stat of 1.21 points/possession. Jimmy Butler's (22-23) is 1.3 Points/possession and Tatum's (23-24) is 1.27 points/possession. The Dwight Howard season I am using (09-10) is only 1.12 points/possession despite the +60 efg%. The season I wanted to use (10-11) is only slightly better at 1.17 points per possession.
Just my thoughts, the state of the game may dictate higher efgs than I I am used to, but we will have to see.

I felt the same way reading the evals. You put a lot of emphasis on eFG% and don’t seem to factor in TO%, fouls, FTs, etc. However you also won the whole thing, so you’re clearly justified. Excited to see it in action, I wasn’t around for the last $52.

My team has under 1100 TOs and under 1400 fouls. Let’s see if that stuff still matters in the new meta.

Excited whenever there’s new talent in WIS - congrats on winning the title, K! No small feat. Excited to see what you’ve got, and if I can hang with your eFG monster. Thanks for the evals!

Posted by K123456789 on 3/17/2025 10:47:00 PM (view original):
21) ncih – Larry Bird, Ben Wallace, Michael Porter, Anfernee Hardaway, Jerry Lucas, Deandre Ayton, Ja Morant

Bird is another guy that would be an absolute monster if you could turn a dial and get him to shoot more 3s (think a better shooting LeBron). As is, his efficiency isn't great but he provides elite rebounding and assists for a SF. I'm a big fan of Porter with his >64 eFG% / >21.5% usage, low TO/fouls, and decent rebounding for a SF. Not sure he's a great fit with Bird though as that forces one to play PF where their rebounding is less impactful.

Wallace is a great rebounder / defender and rarely shoots so the low eFG% won't kill you. Unfortunately, he can only guard one person at a time and there are no other plus defenders on the team to help. Ultimately, I think this team drafted too many minutes and does not have high enough eFG% to overcome subpar D. I predict it will be an uphil climb to make the playoffs.

Posted by dBKC on 3/17/2025 11:15:00 PM (view original):
I mean, it’s clearly working. Cheers!

Posted by Midge on 3/18/2025 1:03:00 AM (view original):

Posted by dBKC on 3/17/2025 11:15:00 PM (view original):
I mean, it’s clearly working. Cheers!

I’m starting to suspect that berkelon and dBKC are the same person.

Posted by K123456789 on 3/17/2025 11:58:00 PM (view original):
24) steelers821 – Hassan Whiteside, James Harden, Robert Williams, Mitchell Robinson,, Gary Payton II, Jamal Murray, Alex Caruso

Last, but not least. This process really feels like punishment for having done well last season!

Whiteside provides a ton of D and rebounding to go with efficient scoring, but with fewer minutes than most early picks. The best thing about using Harden in a Sim is you don't actually have to watch him hunt for fouls and live at the line. Of course when you take away some of those free throws, his true shooting drops. Having said that, he soaks up a lot of usage and enables drafting high efficiency complementary players and guys like Williams, Robinson, Peyton, Turner, and Caruso fit the mold.

In a vacuum Murray's usage is higher than I would like for a 55% eFG%, and he will take shots away from more efficient scorers, but works well here with 1 really high usage guy on the floor enabling a bunch of specialists. Assists are also light for my taste, but this looks like a playoff squad.