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My favorite player is way back down in Salary.

1915 Pete Alexander:

before: $20,807,546
after: $16,221,577

difference: $4,585969

I pray to God he still dominates. That is Ole Pete for 401 IP and throw in 3 RP for the cost of his old salary.
10/14/2009 1:36 AM
Maybe it's because he can't hit and brings down the defense? But wow, at that new salary... he's tough to pass on. I mean, why would anyone pay an extra $3.5 million to get Caruthers when Pete Alexander is now OL-affordable? What did the salary of '94 Maddux do?
10/14/2009 1:38 AM
I'm thinking the George Burns that is 5.9 million now is the same one that was 5.5 mill before. There are 2 different George Burns who played in 1917 and in all the other Burns years listed as well.
10/14/2009 1:46 AM
200K Corky Miller 2008 (updated)

The former $200k catcher with the A+ arm moved up in value - way up. At $934,147 for his 67 PAs his cost per PA is $13,942. I doubt the new cost reflects his offense (BA .083, OBP .152, SL .133). His 2008 Atlanta teammate Chipper Jones (.364, .470, .574) only costs $12,689 per PA. I assume that means that Corky will now not only gun down everyone attempting to steal, but also immediately pick off anyone his pitcher accidentally walks.

Miller, who now costs over 4-1/2 times as much as yesterday, is just one example. The cost of part timers with defensive skills (and not just catchers) is way up. For example 68 Mike Ferraro 200K to 384K, 51 Paul Lehner 200K to 474K, 30 Moe Berg 200K to 734K. I'd say as a group they've been priced out of open league budgets.

WIS has made some big changes in the player salaries to boost the cost of fielding. Taylor Douthit, who once upon a time was open league affordable and valued for taking away a hit or two a game in the OF, jumped from 5.9 mil to 6.9 mil. in this update. Feels like the + plays are coming back. Also appears that the minus plays are coming with them judging from a few players I've noticed whose cost declined - their shared fault seemed to be D- range ratings.
10/14/2009 3:41 AM
Bootone is right - cost of pitching is down overall.

2008 pitcher spreadsheet the average cost per IP/162 was $22,204. In the 2009 spreadsheet this declined to $21,710, about -5.2%

Hitting went up in cost based on the 2008 and 2009 spreadsheets. Cost per PA/162 was $6,093 in 2008 and climbed to $6,413 this year. An increase of about +5.2%

So cheaper pitchers and more expensive hitters. Is WIS easing back on the offense? It would be the first time since I started playing.
10/14/2009 5:10 AM
on the flip side, there are now some 200k guys who can actually be good pinch hitters, if you don't mind their iron gloves.
10/14/2009 7:19 AM
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10/14/2009 8:13 AM
Can someone post Silver King's new salary?
10/14/2009 8:16 AM
Quote: Originally posted by dtownlove10 on 10/14/2009Can someone post Silver King's new salary?

$29,119,784 - i think that's a lot cheaper
10/14/2009 8:22 AM
Yes, about 5M.
10/14/2009 8:36 AM
that Silver King is also going to adversely affect your fielders gloves now as well. so is pete alexander to a lesser extent. it sounds like you will need to have super fielders (compared to their league average) if you want to sniff a deadball pitcher and not end up with a ton of errors.
i am guessing that is taken into account with the new prices as well.
10/14/2009 11:18 AM
Bob Milacki at 1,231,122 - down, remember when it was even lower?
10/14/2009 11:44 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Merkle on 10/14/2009

2008 pitcher spreadsheet the average cost per IP/162 was $22,204. In the 2009 spreadsheet this declined to $21,710, about -5.2%



Quote:Originally posted by elburo25 on 10/14/2009


What percent of that is just due to the fact that the '09 pitchers are included?



If you calculate the average cost of pitching per IP/162 without the 2009 season it's $21,717 so the net effect of the new pitchers lowers the average by $7. So out of a net decline of $1,194 you could attribute only about $7 to the 2009 data.

This is always going to be true. Because there's 125 years of data the impact of any single season will be small. The 49,109 innings represented by the 2009 pitchers is only 1.2% of the total of all innings in the new WIS spreadsheet.

The major change in the cost of pitching is clearly the WIS salary formula, not the slightly woeful 2009 pitcher stats.
10/14/2009 12:19 PM
Oh my god, all my defensive favorites are jacked to hell... 99 Erstad doubling in price? All those 200-250k guys...

Some other cookies go down in price, though. Weird.

10/14/2009 12:27 PM
Merkle, thanks for the number crunching. I didn't expect the '09 pitchers to be a significant contributor to the overall price change. Just wondered what each year does to that equation when it gets added.
10/14/2009 2:11 PM
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