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Posted by strikeout26 on 3/16/2018 11:08:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by strikeout26 on 3/16/2018 9:48:00 AM (view original):
Not at all. The current setup gives a voice to the entire country instead of a few heavily populated pockets.
Exept the people not in the pockets have more power than those inside of it. How is that fair?
How do they have more power?
Their votes count more. The number of electoral votes Wyoming has per person is far greater than California. It isn't proportionate.
3/16/2018 11:10 AM
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Posted by dino27 on 3/16/2018 11:09:00 AM (view original):
the greatest usa exports now are services........we need our brightest people to go to college......we dont want to fall behind in the sciences...medicine..... medical and pharm research....computers..ai....etc.
Anything science related needs college. I am not sure about computers. I'm a tech idiot. A lot of majors in college, people would be better served through apprenticeships.
3/16/2018 11:10 AM
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imtalking about the science of computers..not IT.
3/16/2018 11:12 AM
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Posted by dino27 on 3/16/2018 11:09:00 AM (view original):
i do like kit carson.....does he count ?
Of course. He is coming from beyond the grave to run in 2020.
3/16/2018 11:12 AM
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we would never be where we are as a world leader if we looked down on college.
3/16/2018 11:13 AM
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I'll take your word for the science of computers.
3/16/2018 11:14 AM
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Posted by strikeout26 on 3/16/2018 11:12:00 AM (view original):
Posted by dino27 on 3/16/2018 11:09:00 AM (view original):
i do like kit carson.....does he count ?
Of course. He is coming from beyond the grave to run in 2020.
im so glad...that makes me happy.
3/16/2018 11:14 AM
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Posted by The Taint on 3/16/2018 11:03:00 AM (view original):
Explain to me how Ben Carson, who never held a governmental position and who he himself said he really wasn't even qualified to serve in a cabinet position, was more qualified than Kasich:

An Ohio state senator, 9 terms serving in the US HoR, 18 years on the House Armed Services committee, 6 years chairman of the house budget committee, 2 terms as Ohio Governor.

I admit the resumes are close, Carson did some great surgeries involving conjoined twins and gave a great conservative speech at the National Prayer Breakfast one year, and he survived cancer.

You gotta say that Kasich is just SLIGHTLY more qualified to be president though, don't you?
Easy. I wanted a non-politician. I thought Carson was very well spoken, thoughtful, medical background to maybe solve the medical insurance issues we have and again an outsider to maybe clean up some of the internal corruption. Kasich by your own definition was an insider.
3/16/2018 11:15 AM
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Posted by tangplay on 3/16/2018 11:10:00 AM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 3/16/2018 11:08:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/16/2018 11:04:00 AM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 3/16/2018 9:48:00 AM (view original):
Not at all. The current setup gives a voice to the entire country instead of a few heavily populated pockets.
Exept the people not in the pockets have more power than those inside of it. How is that fair?
How do they have more power?
Their votes count more. The number of electoral votes Wyoming has per person is far greater than California. It isn't proportionate.
Are you counting legal people in Cali or illegals too?
3/16/2018 11:16 AM
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Posted by tangplay on 3/16/2018 11:09:00 AM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 3/16/2018 11:07:00 AM (view original):
I agree with CCCP. I was a big Carson supporter. I like Kasich.

As far as the push for everyone to go to college in America, I think it's absurd. College does very little to prepare people for the real world. I think it's highly overvalued and apprenticeships/internships are highly undervalued. As a rule, I am not a fan of formal post-secondary education. There are obvious exceptions. I don't want someone cutting me open with a HS education, but I guarantee you I know more about business than most business majors.
It is fine to think that, but the fact of the matter is that businesses require college diplomas for a lot of high paying jobs.
Yes and a lot of people are not smart enough or driven enough to get these diplomas. As it is we are pushing too many kids toward college IMO. I see it firsthand as a father of two young kids.
3/16/2018 11:18 AM
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Posted by cccp1014 on 3/16/2018 11:16:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/16/2018 11:10:00 AM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 3/16/2018 11:08:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/16/2018 11:04:00 AM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 3/16/2018 9:48:00 AM (view original):
Not at all. The current setup gives a voice to the entire country instead of a few heavily populated pockets.
Exept the people not in the pockets have more power than those inside of it. How is that fair?
How do they have more power?
Their votes count more. The number of electoral votes Wyoming has per person is far greater than California. It isn't proportionate.
Are you counting legal people in Cali or illegals too?
It works either way. The results don't change. You can cross supply this with NY, Texas, etc.
3/16/2018 11:19 AM
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Posted by cccp1014 on 3/16/2018 11:18:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/16/2018 11:09:00 AM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 3/16/2018 11:07:00 AM (view original):
I agree with CCCP. I was a big Carson supporter. I like Kasich.

As far as the push for everyone to go to college in America, I think it's absurd. College does very little to prepare people for the real world. I think it's highly overvalued and apprenticeships/internships are highly undervalued. As a rule, I am not a fan of formal post-secondary education. There are obvious exceptions. I don't want someone cutting me open with a HS education, but I guarantee you I know more about business than most business majors.
It is fine to think that, but the fact of the matter is that businesses require college diplomas for a lot of high paying jobs.
Yes and a lot of people are not smart enough or driven enough to get these diplomas. As it is we are pushing too many kids toward college IMO. I see it firsthand as a father of two young kids.
...and? If they don't get their diploma, then that is on them. So? And people CHOOSE to go to college.
3/16/2018 11:20 AM
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No parents and teachers push kids to college and then kids go and many drop out quickly. There is nothing wrong with trade schools and other type of work. As it is we have more graduates than jobs. Wait til you are a parent. You will sing a different tune.
3/16/2018 11:21 AM
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Posted by tangplay on 3/16/2018 11:19:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/16/2018 11:16:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/16/2018 11:10:00 AM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 3/16/2018 11:08:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/16/2018 11:04:00 AM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 3/16/2018 9:48:00 AM (view original):
Not at all. The current setup gives a voice to the entire country instead of a few heavily populated pockets.
Exept the people not in the pockets have more power than those inside of it. How is that fair?
How do they have more power?
Their votes count more. The number of electoral votes Wyoming has per person is far greater than California. It isn't proportionate.
Are you counting legal people in Cali or illegals too?
It works either way. The results don't change. You can cross supply this with NY, Texas, etc.
Can you name an election that Wyoming has impacted with their 3 electoral votes? While it is possible the probability that Wyoming will influence an election is incredibly low.
3/16/2018 11:23 AM
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of course trade schools are very important...
3/16/2018 11:24 AM
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