Posted by cccp1014 on 3/7/2018 8:15:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 3/6/2018 6:45:00 PM (view original):
In my opinion, the country has become more divided under Trump than it ever did under Obama. Or maybe that is the wrong way to phrase it. I think most of the hate and divisiveness was always there. trump has just made it more acceptable to give voice to that hate, racism and divisiveness than it was before.

I'm not sure what has happened to this country, but its scary.

You hit the nail on the head. The divisiveness happened under BHO. See BLM...but under DJT other started speaking out but if you speak out you are immediately labeled a "racist" so the country is divided but it began under BHO. I agree that DJT has not helped but he did not start it. The roots were already there along with feelings of anger. It scares me too. Only because I have young kids growing up in this environment and they are now nervous to use pronouns such as "she" and "he". Insanity.

Seemed to me that Wylie was trying to say that the diviaiveness started before Obama. Divisiveness has always been around in our counry. Many of Americans were ****** that there was a black president. It is pretty hard to say that BLM was Obama's fault+, and it is pretty didficult to argue that BLM solely built because of things under Obama. Obama gave these people a voice, just like Trump gives the KKK a voice. It's just as insane to claim that Trump sparked the divides as to claim that about Obama.

Posted by cccp1014 on 3/7/2018 8:18:00 AM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 3/6/2018 7:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 3/6/2018 6:45:00 PM (view original):
In my opinion, the country has become more divided under Trump than it ever did under Obama. Or maybe that is the wrong way to phrase it. I think most of the hate and divisiveness was always there. trump has just made it more acceptable to give voice to that hate, racism and divisiveness than it was before.

I'm not sure what has happened to this country, but its scary.

yup. 1/2 the country was ****** a black man was elected president. Trumps racial notsosubliminal messaging was a call to arms to those people. the last gasp of the WASP.

I would not say 1/2 the country but for many its possible. Its also possible that people like tangplay the idiot, who says he is a Christian Jew or whatever the label of the day is to fit his dumb narrative, keep crying racism. We have an African American President in office. An African American Attorney General. But the country is what it is and cries of racism from the likes of idiot tangplay persist. Its possible that even those that voted for BHO, hoping that it would improve race relations and then see that it actually went the other way became discouraged and their voices were drowned out by the many that the Taint points out as angry that an African American was voted as President for two terms.

Both wylie and Taint have it correct IMO.

What is your problem?

Posted by tangplay on 3/7/2018 9:08:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 3/7/2018 8:15:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 3/6/2018 6:45:00 PM (view original):
In my opinion, the country has become more divided under Trump than it ever did under Obama. Or maybe that is the wrong way to phrase it. I think most of the hate and divisiveness was always there. trump has just made it more acceptable to give voice to that hate, racism and divisiveness than it was before.

I'm not sure what has happened to this country, but its scary.

You hit the nail on the head. The divisiveness happened under BHO. See BLM...but under DJT other started speaking out but if you speak out you are immediately labeled a "racist" so the country is divided but it began under BHO. I agree that DJT has not helped but he did not start it. The roots were already there along with feelings of anger. It scares me too. Only because I have young kids growing up in this environment and they are now nervous to use pronouns such as "she" and "he". Insanity.

Seemed to me that Wylie was trying to say that the diviaiveness started before Obama. Divisiveness has always been around in our counry. Many of Americans were ****** that there was a black president. It is pretty hard to say that BLM was Obama's fault+, and it is pretty didficult to argue that BLM solely built because of things under Obama. Obama gave these people a voice, just like Trump gives the KKK a voice. It's just as insane to claim that Trump sparked the divides as to claim that about Obama.

So now you can read wylie's mind? Please go away. Adults are conversing.

Posted by cccp1014 on 3/7/2018 9:11:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 3/7/2018 9:08:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 3/7/2018 8:15:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 3/6/2018 6:45:00 PM (view original):
In my opinion, the country has become more divided under Trump than it ever did under Obama. Or maybe that is the wrong way to phrase it. I think most of the hate and divisiveness was always there. trump has just made it more acceptable to give voice to that hate, racism and divisiveness than it was before.

I'm not sure what has happened to this country, but its scary.

You hit the nail on the head. The divisiveness happened under BHO. See BLM...but under DJT other started speaking out but if you speak out you are immediately labeled a "racist" so the country is divided but it began under BHO. I agree that DJT has not helped but he did not start it. The roots were already there along with feelings of anger. It scares me too. Only because I have young kids growing up in this environment and they are now nervous to use pronouns such as "she" and "he". Insanity.

Seemed to me that Wylie was trying to say that the diviaiveness started before Obama. Divisiveness has always been around in our counry. Many of Americans were ****** that there was a black president. It is pretty hard to say that BLM was Obama's fault+, and it is pretty didficult to argue that BLM solely built because of things under Obama. Obama gave these people a voice, just like Trump gives the KKK a voice. It's just as insane to claim that Trump sparked the divides as to claim that about Obama.

So now you can read wylie's mind? Please go away. Adults are conversing.

I think most of the hate and divisiveness was always there. trump has just made it more acceptable to give voice to that hate, racism and divisiveness than it was before.

Pretty sure we are making the same argument.

So we had BLM, Berkley protests of the likes of Ben Shapiro, gender neutral bathrooms, NFL players sitting for the national anthem, under Bush? Again. Please go away. Adults are conversing.

No, but the divides didn't happen because of Obama. Obama gave these people a vpice. But it is insane to say that Obama created racial tension.

Just like I don't blame Trump solely for sparking womens rallies, and womens rallies is not why I think Trump is anti Women.

I never said he did. I said under his presidency many hoped that it would ease racial tensions but instead it heightened them because of events such as what happened in Baltimore. My point was that DJT did not cause the divide, it was there under BHO. But wylie and Taint are correct in that those that were sick of the racism rhetoric gravitated toward DJT. Hate groups like the Klan have like 100k members. They are not the reason DJT won the presidency. I am not even sure how many of them can vote as they likely have criminal records.

My overall point is that we need to as a country address this issue and not point fingers at DJT, that the issue is there solely because of him. Does your pea sized brain understand what I am stating here?

Posted by cccp1014 on 3/7/2018 9:55:00 AM (view original):
I never said he did. I said under his presidency many hoped that it would ease racial tensions but instead it heightened them because of events such as what happened in Baltimore. My point was that DJT did not cause the divide, it was there under BHO. But wylie and Taint are correct in that those that were sick of the racism rhetoric gravitated toward DJT. Hate groups like the Klan have like 100k members. They are not the reason DJT won the presidency. I am not even sure how many of them can vote as they likely have criminal records.

My overall point is that we need to as a country address this issue and not point fingers at DJT, that the issue is there solely because of him. Does your pea sized brain understand what I am stating here?

I 100% agree with that post. See, when you are reasonable, we can agree on things!

When I AM? Have you looked in the mirror? Mr. Christian Jew?

We have already established that one can be a Christian in religion and Jewish in culture/heritage/whatever you want to call it.

YOU ARE AN ATHEIST JEW!

MSNBC has become the number 1 cable news network........if you combine cnn and msnbc they usually double the fox show on at the time.
rachel maddow surpassed hannity as number 1 since the age of trump ( 6 ) .
after rachel maddow ireally enjoy brian williams.

TRUMP AND THE KOREAS

trump just issued a new sanction against n. korea....quite strange when it is possible something positive is happening between the 2 koreas...seems like trump is jealous that s. korea is doing something he could not do or acted on its own so he threw some negative chaos in to show s. korea who is boss.
add to that the tariffs....guess who the number 3 supplier of steel is....yes..south korea......timing ?
n. korea is surely acting to get sanction relief and wont give up the nukes but a warming between the 2 koreas could be real and it looks like trump does not approve and is throwing in monkey wrenches.

Posted by cccp1014 on 3/7/2018 8:15:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 3/6/2018 6:45:00 PM (view original):
In my opinion, the country has become more divided under Trump than it ever did under Obama. Or maybe that is the wrong way to phrase it. I think most of the hate and divisiveness was always there. trump has just made it more acceptable to give voice to that hate, racism and divisiveness than it was before.

I'm not sure what has happened to this country, but its scary.

You hit the nail on the head. The divisiveness happened under BHO. See BLM...but under DJT other started speaking out but if you speak out you are immediately labeled a "racist" so the country is divided but it began under BHO. I agree that DJT has not helped but he did not start it. The roots were already there along with feelings of anger. It scares me too. Only because I have young kids growing up in this environment and they are now nervous to use pronouns such as "she" and "he". Insanity.

Obama didn't start it either. Its always been there.

Posted by cccp1014 on 3/7/2018 9:55:00 AM (view original):
I never said he did. I said under his presidency many hoped that it would ease racial tensions but instead it heightened them because of events such as what happened in Baltimore. My point was that DJT did not cause the divide, it was there under BHO. But wylie and Taint are correct in that those that were sick of the racism rhetoric gravitated toward DJT. Hate groups like the Klan have like 100k members. They are not the reason DJT won the presidency. I am not even sure how many of them can vote as they likely have criminal records.

My overall point is that we need to as a country address this issue and not point fingers at DJT, that the issue is there solely because of him. Does your pea sized brain understand what I am stating here?

Trump is not to blame for the divisiveness in this country, but as I said, I think he is at least partially to blame for making it acceptable. Just as we shouldn't place all the blame at trump's feet, blaming Obama makes just as little sense. Blaming anyone doesn't accomplish anything. The hatred and divisiveness is still there, regardless of who is to blame.

And by the way, reading my mind is not difficult. Won't take very long either!