Posted by milest on 3/21/2018 7:45:00 PM (view original):
Posted by ashamael on 3/21/2018 5:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by milest on 3/21/2018 12:03:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jkaye24 on 3/21/2018 6:52:00 AM (view original):
Posted by milest on 3/21/2018 12:37:00 AM (view original):
He drafted Mason for the frontcourt ast% needed when drafting Klay at SG. He's 96% at SF, so I assume he'll be at PF since Worm will play SF...
I'm not saying whether I agree or disagree with the pick, but I understand it.
Yes, Mason ties the whole thing together with assists and for 39 minutes to boot. Brings the starters to about 65%. Low fouls and good D didn’t hurt the cause.
Alternative was to get more dimes from PG, and there are some options for that but with a major scoring and defense sacrifice. But I totally get the issues with Mason at the 4.
Mason wasn't a bad selection for you. He's also a low TO guy, and gets to the line a decent amount of times for his usage and hits at a decent rate. I think he's kind of underrated, tbh-- it depends on the team around him- but I don't think your selection warranted the ridicule from the peanut gallery. Don't worry- Every time my team gets **** on in the evals and forums, including from King Ash, i usually make the conference finals at least...
You got a problem with me?
I don't consider responding to someone and agreeing with what they said was ridicule:
Posted by jkaye24 on 3/20/2018 9:53:00 PM (view original):
Probably put together the worst 4 rebounders in the league around Rodman: Cheeks, Klay, Mase and Zo. Elite defense, enough assists, solid eFG, need 3s off the bench. Not sure if this works. Man, the ODL is hard.
Mason is the worst part of that, unless you're planning on using Worm as a 4. I really like the squad otherwise (well, I hate Cheeks, too, but he's acceptable)
Well, u conveniently left out 'being on the same wavelength as copernicus'- but ok.. and no. No problem. I'm telling JK that my team has been evaluated as sucking many times, and I ended up doing pretty well.. even if the poor eval was by you, who knows everything about the SIM, I still did well... It looked like, even if u say not, that u and copernicus hated the Mason pick and didnt understand it.. u guys have that right... I stated that I do understand it and don't think it was as bad as copernicus made it seem to be, and that u were 'on the same wavelength' as--- but... I get **** on again for just saying what I think... it's ok tho.
I didn't conveniently leave out anything. He expounded on why I didn't love the pick. I never said I didn't understand the pick. I hated the Cheeks pick, because it made the Mason pick necessary. I think Cheeks is one of the worst best point guards in the sim... you grab him if you have good assists already at the other positions & good threes somewhere other than SG. If you don't (or you know you won't be able to make a rotation out of the 6th/undrafted players), then I think he's a bad fit. Others disagree, and there have been good teams using him. Jkaye is a fantastic owner and will probably make the whole thing work! You yourself know that I'm not always right. I never claimed to be. These (and any) evaluations are really, really difficult to get right. For one thing, you often don't know what seasons people are going to use. You suspect based on history & what you know works, but then people pull some **** and you're like - what the ****? Why are you using that season? Then there's the fact that you don't know what undrafted players they are going to use.
A little secret about these draft leagues... it's not about who you draft, it's about who you don't draft but use. Almost everybody here has drafted a solid starting 5 and will probably draft 2 good subs. This happens almost every season. You can see that by the parity of the regular season standings. When 20 games separate #1 from #20, you have a good league. Unfortunately, the closer to parity your league is, the more effect randomness & outliers can have on results. This adds to the difficulty in prediction, but this is sidetracking from the point I was trying to make. You don't take "Player X in the 4th" because they have a lot of value and are falling. You don't take "Player Y" in the 2nd because other people think he's great. You don't NOT take "Player Z" in the 2nd because some people think he'll be there in round 3 or 4. You take Player Z because you know that you can pair him up with who WILL be there in rounds 4,5, and 6, and who WILL be undrafted & you can use as a core part of your rotation.
Because these later guys & undrafted guys are so important, predicting anything off of 3 players in a vacuum is silly. Even off of 5, 6 or 7 is extremely difficult. But it's typically not a vacuum. You get to know owners' styles & capabilities. When you see Dwight Howard & Bill Walton in Ben's hands after round 2, you know that's going to be lethal. When you see the same pair in ... someone who tends to draft at the top of these leagues regularly ... you're less worried, and typically, by round 4 or 5, they screw it up. Even if they didn't, they wouldn't put together the bench that really supports it.
This is a really, really long way of saying that when I do my evals, I take what I know of the owner into account when making my evaluation.
If I don't know someone well, or have very little experience in leagues with them would be a more accurate way of saying that, then that comes through in my eval. Pair this up with only seeing like 70-75% of the team picture, the sim parity/randomness effect, the likelihood of using different seasons than you expect, and the fact that nobody really sees the coaching stuff behind the scenes, and it becomes really, really difficult to evaluate anything, even for someone that does know the sim really well. They're somewhat educated guesses, but they're still guesses. So whatever I said about whatever team you had that you proved me wrong with, that's why I said it. I have very little idea who you were, assumed you would do some stupid ****, and you didn't. And, of course, I could have just been wrong! I'm not infallible. I honestly have no idea what I said or when I said it, but you obviously do, and the whole "King Ash" thing makes you sound really bitter about it. I'm sorry that I **** on your team however long ago it was. Sounds like it didn't matter, though, and you're a successful owner whether I like your teams or not, so who the **** cares what I think?!
P.s. I'm not sure how saying what I said was shitting on you. I
know this is the pot calling the kettle black, but you
are acting awfully sensitive in these posts. Because
I am the pot, I recognize these things. I get as worked up (or more) than anybody that I've ever played this sim with, so I get the irony in me pointing it out. That doesn't make it untrue. I've also ****** off or been ****** off by almost every owner that's ever played here for any real length at all, but we almost always get past it. I don't hold grudges. Often. For very long. :D
Gonna make a long post a little longer. About the whole "King Ash" thing... well, yeah. I know a lot about the sim. That's not a boast. I do know a lot about the sim. I learned a lot from other owners and did a lot of experimentation/testing on my own from there. I have helped more owners understand the sim than probably anybody else in my time here. That's not a boast. I don't take credit for their victories or anything. Some people took what I shared, added their own experience to it & grew from there. I didn't win those 80-something rings for Ben; he won them. At one time, I believed I was the best owner in the sim, and there really wasn't anybody that had a good argument otherwise, but that is the spirit of competition. I was super cocky. I was super confident. I was extremely arrogant. That's (mostly) in the past. I still know I'm one of the best, and if I really put the time/effort into it that I used to, I think that I could be the best again. But I don't, and I'm okay with that. If that makes me cocky and unliked, well, so be it. I'm not going to be falsely humble; I know I'm not a better person than anybody else here, but I'm a pretty damn good WISNBA sim owner even still. If my talking/debating mechanics is a problem for you (or anybody), I don't know what to say other than: pay attention. Whether I'm 100% right or 100% wrong, you can learn something from any mechanics discussion, and learning is almost never a bad thing.
And that's the main reason I get flustered & argumentative around here: I get irritated when someone with limited experience begins telling me something I know to be untrue or gives false advice to people. I also (still) ******* love this thing (the sim), and whenever I'm passionate about something, I don't half *** it. In any case, theres's almost always something to learn from almost every debate or conversation, even for King Ash, so keep this **** coming!
3/21/2018 9:32 PM (edited)