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11) 24kpyrite - Kevin Durant, Kevin McHale, Draymond Green, Otto Porter, Jr., DeJounte Murray, Andrew Bogut, Emeka Okafor
Durant is a tricky one to start with because his most efficient season has relatively low minutes compared to most first rounders, but I agree with your decision to use the Warriors version over OKC. McHale is good efficient secondary scorer without any minutes restrictions, but I worry that Murray and Brandon are going to drag down the offense with their 50% eFG% on high usage. This team looks solid in other areas, but I think having a couple of brick layers will hold them back from true contention.
3/17/2025 8:33 PM
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12) chewy3344 - Rudy Gobert, Paul George, Jonas Valanciunas, Montrezl Harrell, Shawn Kemp, Kevon Looney, Marquese Chriss
Where's the assists indeed! Gobert is great at D and rebounding, plus is very efficient (though at lower usage that guys I would consider foundational offensive pieces). I like pairing him with Valanciunas and Harrell since the help with the efficient scoring and rebounding, plus Gobert can help cover for Jonas' poor D. George and Kemp are great IRL players, but their eFG% are going to hurt here (particularly George who is by far the highest usage player on the team). Having said that, this looks like a great defensive squad, so should be able to win some lower scoring games.
This team is going to be a beast on the glass, and with the combination of poor shooting and good defense there will be a lot of missed shots so it is going to need it! A clever build and definitely not how I would construct a team (last season I did the opposite with good eFG%, poor defense, and mediocre rebounding; makes me question the lack of synergies going with good eFG%, good defense, and terrible rebounding this time). I think it will struggle to score, but I would be remiss to predict anything other than a playoff appearance given Chewy's track record. It's more likely I'm missing something (i.e. defense/rebounding really do matter).
3/17/2025 8:34 PM
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13) jcred5 - Chris Paul, Joel Embiid, Scottie Pippen, Elton Brand, Kevin Love, Larry Sanders, Onyeka Okongwu
This team looks like it is going to run 4 inefficient defenders plus Embiid. Embiid is great, but he's another guy who is, shall we say, minutes challenged so may not be enough to overcome so many low 50s eFG% players on fairly high usage. Paul gets a lot of love here, and I can see him filling the stat sheet enough to stomach a 55% eFG%. Pippen and Brand, however, are hurt too much with a lack of era adjustments given their ~52% pales in comparison to more modern players who eschew inefficient midrange shots. Pr9bably another .500ish club.
3/17/2025 8:35 PM
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14) raggedclaws - David Robinson, Tyrese Haliburton, Oscar Robertson, Christian Wood, Jaren Jackson, Jr., Delon Wright, Paul Reed
Raggedclaws is a much more experienced manager than I am so maybe this is manageable, but I would be very worried about fatigue with only 18.8k minutes (not counting Garner who I imagine is only on the team as filler to rest better players). This is a team that put far more focus on defense than scoring efficiency. Strikes me as a tad too much usage and not enough eFG%, but otherwise very solid. If they survive fatigue issues, this squad could be dangerous in the playoffs when you can shorten the rotation.
3/17/2025 8:35 PM
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15) K123456789 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Clinton Capela, Magic Johnson, Bobby Jones, Zion Williamson, Terry Porter, Danny Green
I don't think this team is as good as the one I had last season where basically every player I wanted fell to me in the draft. Several people told me that defense was very important last season when I largely punted it, so I tried to go in the other direction this time. I made a conscious effort to avoid players I drafted last time and the newfound focus on defense came at the expense of other categories - namely rebounding.
I debated which KAJ season to use, and went with his best eFG% one with 100 Defense (and subpar rebounding). Capela certainly helps on the boards, but Jones may be an ill advised pairing (he was one of the few players with a 60 eFG% and 100 defense though). Williamson was my one reversion to type, but I needed efficient usage. Porter and Green were not my preferred choices, but need some 3 point shooting.
I'm biased so will say predict playoff team, but I don't expect to be writing evals again in a couple of months.
3/17/2025 8:35 PM
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These evals are great Thank you K123456789
3/17/2025 8:55 PM
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16) dBKC - Kawhi Leonard, Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Marcus Camby, Mike Conley, Brandon Clarke
This is another team that is really hurt by the lack of era normalization. Duncan and Nowitzki are all time greats, but it'll be tough to have a competitive offense with two ~52% eFG% guys on high usage. Clarke and Conley are the only players here that are a real asset in terms of efficiency, and they just doesn't play enough minutes to move the needle. Leonard is good at a lot of things, but, while his usage is high enough, he is not efficient enough to drag a team to be an above average offense by himself. There are some strong defenders here, but I think they will come up short against the more efficient scoring teams. And the rebounding is not strong enough to take advantage of the missed shots on both ends.
3/17/2025 9:06 PM
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Posted by K123456789 on 3/17/2025 9:06:00 PM (view original):
16) dBKC - Kawhi Leonard, Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Marcus Camby, Mike Conley, Brandon Clarke
This is another team that is really hurt by the lack of era normalization. Duncan and Nowitzki are all time greats, but it'll be tough to have a competitive offense with two ~52% eFG% guys on high usage. Clarke and Conley are the only players here that are a real asset in terms of efficiency, and they just doesn't play enough minutes to move the needle. Leonard is good at a lot of things, but, while his usage is high enough, he is not efficient enough to drag a team to be an above average offense by himself. There are some strong defenders here, but I think they will come up short against the more efficient scoring teams. And the rebounding is not strong enough to take advantage of the missed shots on both ends.
I’m definitely not a fan of my eFG either, but I’m banking on my low TOs, high FTs, good D, and high stl/blk to eke out some wins. We’ll see. Definitely different than my $52m crown teams of the past, wouldn’t be surprised if it backfired. But this team is super clean overall.
3/17/2025 10:30 PM (edited)
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17) oddson - DeAndre Jordan, John Stockton, Kyrie Irving, Robert Parish, Al Horford, JaVale McGee, Gerald Wallace
DeAndre is someone who really took the high efficiency mantra to heart. Of course he won't shoot from outside of 5' so the two shots a quarter he takes can't really carry an offense. I think Stockton is a good pick here even though he seems to go later in these drafts. What I said about Nash applies here too, but with good defense to go with the assists and efficiency.
Irving works well here as he soaks up a lot of usage on above average efficiency (goes well with the high efficiency / low usage earlier picks). I think you give a bit of that nice mix back with Parish taking a lot of shots with <55% efficiency. I would have looked to sprinkle in a few more >60% / medium usage guys (Harrell, Gordon, Maxwell, Korver come to mind as examples that were drafted). Overall the team is solid and should fight for a playoff slot.
3/17/2025 10:04 PM
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18) lukemikk - Luka Doncic, Julius Erving, Jared Allen, Dikembe Mutombo, Trayce Jackson-Davis, Mo Bamba, Tyreke Evans, Andrew Wiggins
I have mixed feelings about Doncic. He provides a lot of boards for a guard plus assists and crazy usage. Alas, the crazy usage comes with merely average efficiency. Allen and Maxwell work well with him as high efficiency medium usage complements, and Erving / Mutombo anchor the defense. A few more assists would have been nice, but this seems like a pretty balanced squad that should compete for the playoffs.
3/17/2025 10:22 PM
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K123 great evals! you had me at "the greatest 52m team ever constructed..."
3/17/2025 10:28 PM
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19) jethroeg – Kevin Garnett, Artis Gilmore, Deron Williams, Clyde Drexler, Jarred Vanderbilt, Colin Sexton, Thaddeus Young
I love Gilmore's efficiency, but think Garnett and Drexler are another pair that are really hurt by the lack of normalization. I would prefer Drexler's 94-95, but that only comes with 1300 minutes (likely why he was a 6th round pick last season).
With only Garnett as a plus defender, two high usage guys around 50% eFG%, and too many minutes, I think this team will struggle.
3/17/2025 10:31 PM
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Posted by K123456789 on 3/17/2025 8:32:00 PM (view original):
8) samuelyork93 - Dwight Howard, Jimmy Butler, Horace Grant, Jayson Tatum, Scottie Barnes, Steven Adams, Isaiah Hartenstein
Howard was a guy I was hoping would fall to me last season as he is one of the few with the high usage / high eFG% that makes building a good offense much easier (plus he's great at D and rebounding). The problem I see is that Butler, Tatum, and Barnes all have higher usage than Howard and their eFG% pale in comparison to his 61+. I have mixed feelings about Tatum in particular; great rebounding for a guard and he soaks up a lot of usage - just not clear he is really the one you want taking shots with a 55% eFG%. I think this will be a ~.500 team.
Thanks for the input!! I originally wanted a higher usage Dwight but I lost the other pieces I wanted to add around him and Tatum in the 4th was hard to pass up. I am by no means an expert but it's jarring for me to see someone say 55 eFG isn't high, not everybody can Jokic or Giannis. When I look at scoring efficiency I do not only look at eFG I also look at tov%. Jimmy and Tatum both have under 10.5 tov% which I think is pretty darn good and also super important.
Something I also like to look at is Points Per Possession. Now, it isn't a stat that WIS tracks so it may be useless but it's a stat I look at for my high usage players. For comparison, Nikola Jokic (23-24), who we can all agree is crazy offensively in the sim and IRL, has a points per possession stat of 1.21 points/possession. Jimmy Butler's (22-23) is 1.3 Points/possession and Tatum's (23-24) is 1.27 points/possession. The Dwight Howard season I am using (09-10) is only 1.12 points/possession despite the +60 efg%. The season I wanted to use (10-11) is only slightly better at 1.17 points per possession.
Just my thoughts, the state of the game may dictate higher efgs than I I am used to, but we will have to see.
3/17/2025 10:34 PM
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20) longtallbrad – Dennis Rodman, Dwayne Wade, Derrick White, Alonzo Mourning, Tom Boerwinkle, Kyle O’Quinn, Charlie Ward
Rodman is a tricky guy to start with, as he is a monster on the boards (at SF no less), but basically a zero on offense. One thing you can say about Wade is that his >35%! usage morecthan makes up for Rodman's allergy to shooting. Unfortunately the equally eye opening <52% efficiency is going to make offense a challenge.
White is solid, as is Mourning, though can't say I ever heard of Boerwinkle (looks like he really crashes the boards!). This team is goingvto have to hope their high end defenders and rebounders can grind out wins in spite of the inefficient shooting. I think. 500 will be the ceiling.
3/17/2025 10:45 PM
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21) ncih – Larry Bird, Ben Wallace, Michael Porter, Anfernee Hardaway, Jerry Lucas, Deandre Ayton, Ja Morant
Bird is another guy that would be an absolute monster if you could turn a dial and get him to shoot more 3s (think a better shooting LeBron). As is, his efficiency isn't great but he provides elite rebounding and assists for a SF. I'm a big fan of Porter with his >64 eFG% / >21.5% usage, low TO/fouls, and decent rebounding for a SF. Not sure he's a great fit with Bird though as that forces one to play PF where their rebounding is less impactful.
Wallace is a great rebounder / defender and rarely shoots so the low eFG% won't kill you. Unfortunately, he can only guard one person at a time and there are no other plus defenders on the team to help. Ultimately, I think this team drafted too many minutes and does not have high enough eFG% to overcome subpar D. I predict it will be an uphil climb to make the playoffs.
3/17/2025 10:47 PM
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