Quote: Originally posted by contrarian23 on 5/27/2010Not sure I agree.  There are many ways in which park factors are calculated, but the most common way is to compare the total runs scored (or runs scored per inning) by the team and its opponents at home vs on the road.Example: Team A scores 350 runs and allows 400 runs at home (81 games).  Team A scores 300 runs and allows 350 runs on the road (81 games).  The park will be considered a "hitters park" because the total runs scored and allowed at home is greater than total runs scored and allowed on the road. Even though team A is obviously a lousy offensive club.  The makeup of the home team should have minimal influence over this calculation, because it is effectively controlled for.

That makes a little more sense...I didn't know they calculated it that way. All I was saying is if they purely look at the runs/stats put up at a given park in a season, the home team's lineup/production are going to have the biggest impact on that

Quote: Originally Posted By contrarian23 on 5/27/2010
The makeup of the home team should have minimal influence over this calculation, because it is effectively controlled for.

Yep, that's what I was saying.

Quote: Originally posted by Jtpsops on 5/27/2010

Quote: Originally posted by contrarian23 on 5/27/2010Not sure I agree.  There are many ways in which park factors are calculated, but the most common way is to compare the total runs scored (or runs scored per inning) by the team and its opponents at home vs on the road.Example: Team A scores 350 runs and allows 400 runs at home (81 games).  Team A scores 300 runs and allows 350 runs on the road (81 games).  The park will be considered a "hitters park" because the total runs scored and allowed at home is greater than total runs scored and allowed on the road. Even though team A is obviously a lousy offensive club.  The makeup of the home team should have minimal influence over this calculation, because it is effectively controlled for.

That makes a little more sense...I didn't know they calculated it that way. All I was saying is if they purely look at the runs/stats put up at a given park in a season, the home team's lineup/production are going to have the biggest impact on that

That wouldn't make much sense though. If that is true, then teams with a small fan base and thus, a low salary and weak pitching staff, would automatically have the most pitcher friendly park.

How do you figure? If you have a weak pitching staff, teams are going to come in and rake off you, thus giving the illusion of a hitter-friendly park.

Bit of a topic switch...but anyone notice that pitcher's parks in the SIM seem to hurt hitters a lot more than they help pitchers?

Two parks where I've noticed this on multiple occasions are Dodger Stadium and Busch Stadium II. They kill my hitters, but do nothing to help my pitching staff, which often has an equal or better ERA on the road.

Jtpsops...I've noticed this with my teams as well...

Dodger Stadium isn't a true pitchers park in the sim. It helps pitchers hold down extra base hits, but has a +2 for singles. I use it alot and fill it with guys like Roy Thomas and Willie Keeler. Seems to work well, at least in live play.

Sometimes, and a response to a ticket I put in makes me think this, I think live and regular sim are two entirely different beasts in terms of game engine.