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But...Seble can't really say, "Um, yeah we're not going to do squat-thanks for playing." That would be bad business. By saying nothing, he says it all.

NFL may be the biggest sport in the US, but SIM-wise it is boring. I don't know if FOX has any NBA games, but they sure do have NFL. Ergo, FOX wants to pump up football and ignore NBA. Again, that's good business.
1/24/2010 8:44 PM
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But they haven't pumped up football. They released the 2009 players, had a bunch of mistakes, and then fixed them.

Good for them. They still ain't fixed the 08-09 nba players.

That was the point of the other thread.


As for Seble... I never asked for miracles. I asked for communication, which he failed at delivering. The only thing we get from him is that he doesn't have time to bother with us without reasons why. He cries and complains and flat out lies. Whatever, I'm over it. I get enough entertainment out of the sim to keep me interested at times. I win enough so that I am spending very little on the site. If more attention was paid, I might spend more, but since it isn't, I do nothing but meddle in it.
1/24/2010 9:48 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By badja on 1/24/2010
But...Seble can't really say, "Um, yeah we're not going to do squat-thanks for playing." That would be bad business. By saying nothing, he says it all.

NFL may be the biggest sport in the US, but SIM-wise it is boring. I don't know if FOX has any NBA games, but they sure do have NFL. Ergo, FOX wants to pump up football and ignore NBA. Again, that's good business.
show me here on this site how it has been good business? they've cut NBA sim business in half, havent increased NFLsim business a lick and believe me no one coming from FOX to WIS gives a care - Id' wager hardly anyone comes from FOX to WIS - have you seen the links on FOX? they're **** - if you didnt know you were looking for WIS you certainly wouldnt find it there

and meanwhile how many dynasty worlds are full?
1/24/2010 11:09 PM
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I guess my point was simply that if WIS is not planning to spend time/money on WIS and that leaves Seble with nothing to say. He would not be allowed to say they are not going to improve the SIM. That might drive people off even faster than they already are leaving.
If he says "We'll work on it", then that is a lie. So...better to say nothing.
I am not trying to defend WIS at all -as you know I am p*ssed about the SIM. But Seble can't do what he is not told to do.
As far as NFL, I am just guessing about that. I can see some stuffed shirt at FOX be arrogant enough to say, "Why are we promoting a sport that we do not provide on TV?".



1/25/2010 12:56 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By badja on 1/25/2010But Seble can't do what he is not told to do.


go back and read the 'feedback' thread seble started - this goes way beyond 'my hands are tied' into making promises and not keeping them territory

dude is a liar, has nothing to do with WIS - has to do with his inability to deal with things properly
1/25/2010 1:57 AM
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As it stands, we've had to do a lot of reshuffling over past year having lost 2 developers without being able to replace them. In addition we've had a number of projects come up not directly related to WIS. I'm not trying to make excuses or anything, just explaining the way it is. Most of it is out of my control, and even out of WIS control.

I'm now the lead developer on HD and have been working on a large release for that game for some time, in addition to working on several other projects. The fact is that the dynasty games (and MLB SimLeagues) are by far our most profitable, but as importantly they still have a lot more room to grow. The SimLeague games are pretty mature products and while there is always room for improvement, the games are pretty solid.

We're not by any means abandoning NBA SimLeagues. But updates will be much further apart than they used to be. Whether it's me working on those updates or someone else I don't know yet. To specifically address those player issues with defensive ratings and effectiveness, my plan was to enlarge the scope of that fix to include all players, not just the 08-09 ones. I'm still planning on doing that, but I can't say when. Possibly after this HD release goes out in March.

You guys can have your opinions about us and about me specifically, but there are always many factors at play in the decisions that are made.
1/25/2010 9:46 AM
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Seble - when you do get around to looking over the changes can you also look at the number of fouls on 3 point attempts. There seems to be way too many of these being called when you read through the PBP compared to what you'd see in the RL NBA. Also, the changing the names on a few guys to avoid confusion (mainly for prog/reg leagues) would be great (the list is in the feedback thread).
1/25/2010 10:05 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By seble on 1/25/2010




As it stands, we've had to do a lot of reshuffling over past year having lost 2 developers without being able to replace them. In addition we've had a number of projects come up not directly related to WIS. I'm not trying to make excuses or anything, just explaining the way it is. Most of it is out of my control, and even out of WIS control.

previous to this posting your last post was made in september - you dont even bother looking at this forum on a day to day basis let alone post in it - that is all about you not WIS

I'm now the lead developer on HD and have been working on a large release for that game for some time, in addition to working on several other projects. The fact is that the dynasty games (and MLB SimLeagues) are by far our most profitable, but as importantly they still have a lot more room to grow. The SimLeague games are pretty mature products and while there is always room for improvement, the games are pretty solid.

a) hah! b) NFL sim just got a big release - how much lying to our faces did you hope to accomplish this morning? (edit: should read "NHL sim")

We're not by any means abandoning NBA SimLeagues.

no major release in 2 years - it's not about what you are planning to do, it's about what you've already done

But updates will be much further apart than they used to be.

no kidding

Whether it's me working on those updates or someone else I don't know yet. To specifically address those player issues with defensive ratings and effectiveness, my plan was to enlarge the scope of that fix to include all players, not just the 08-09 ones. I'm still planning on doing that, but I can't say when. Possibly after this HD release goes out in March.

why not wait until after the next player season release? or maybe the one after that? the effectiveness and d ratings out-comes are based on algorithm right? you need to change some of the wieghting values right? damn hard piece of code that would be

You guys can have your opinions about us and about me specifically, but there are always many factors at play in the decisions that are made.


1/25/2010 10:09 AM
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To clarify, the NFL release was simply putting out the current season of players. That's a necessary release for all the SimLeague games. That was not a development release.
1/25/2010 10:11 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By zizzo24 on 1/25/2010
Seble - when you do get around to looking over the changes can you also look at the number of fouls on 3 point attempts. There seems to be way too many of these being called when you read through the PBP compared to what you'd see in the RL NBA. Also, the changing the names on a few guys to avoid confusion (mainly for prog/reg leagues) would be great (the list is in the feedback thread).
I would bet that this is because (as usual) there were unintended consequences to a seble fix in regards to Wilt fouling out too much - rather than refining the relationship between IRL pf rate, IRL fta rate and in-game distribution of outcomes based on those (or god forbid, allowing for in-game corrections) he just added increased likelihood that a foul would be distro'd out to a perimeter player
1/25/2010 10:12 AM
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Yep, the NFL sim hasn't had an update in almost 6 years, but leave it to the WIS brass to wonder why its their lowest grossing sim by far.....
1/25/2010 10:13 AM
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quite right, I misspoke I said NFL but should have said NHL

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1/25/2010 10:15 AM
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Good to hear from you, seble. Nice to have some clarity and as much of an update as is possible. Once you have a more concrete idea of when a major update will occur, please post it somewhere in these forums with as much notice as possible. I and probably others here care enough about the game to be willing to go back through months of suggestions, kvetching, etc., and distill a more concise outline of our hopes and wishes to save y'all some time if that's helpful.
1/25/2010 10:18 AM
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wow you are in for some real dissapointment LTB
1/25/2010 10:28 AM
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Ha! I knew you'd be quick to follow on my post, monk. Well, I gotta be me.
1/25/2010 10:33 AM
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