Posted by moy23 on 4/6/2017 9:51:00 PM (view original):
Hillary says she lost the election because men are not ready for a woman president!! Unfuckingbelievable! She is so pathetic.

What's the word I'm looking for? Hunt? Bunt? Runt?

I just can't think of the word to describe her.

Posted by MikeT23 on 4/6/2017 10:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 4/6/2017 9:51:00 PM (view original):
Hillary says she lost the election because men are not ready for a woman president!! Unfuckingbelievable! She is so pathetic.

What's the word I'm looking for? Hunt? Bunt? Runt?

I just can't think of the word to describe her.

dull. crooked.

Posted by bad_luck on 4/6/2017 4:27:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by tecwrg on 4/6/2017 1:02:00 PM (view original):
We need a third party, because clearly both the R and D parties are hopelessly broken.

I completely agree that the parties are ****, but adding a third party doesn't help. They parties went to **** because the constituents went to ****.

99% of the elected officials in this Country are already ****, because they're more worried about voting for their Party's stance than for the stance of the people who elected them. I don't know what that is, but it sure in the hell isn't Democracy. If you don't think a 3rd Party would help lessen the Party-line BS, you're dumber than I thought, and I didn't think that was possible.

You realize there five major political parties in the US, seven political parties with representation in at least one state, and like 30 minor political parties, right?

Having the option to vote for a third party doesn't solve anything because the number of parties isn't what creates the problems. The voters are.

Look at the recent Obamacare non-vote. The GOP controls the house, the senate, and the white house and couldn't even bring a bill to the house floor because GOP congressmen would have been murdered by their constituents if they didn't put together the perfect solution. And, since there is no perfect solution, they couldn't do anything.

Had the message from their constituents been, "please compromise and do your best to get us a bill that will pass and help solve some problems," instead of "if you don't get everything we want we'll primary you," a health care bill would have passed.

"five major political parties" - guess you really are dumber than I thought.
At least we agree voters are a large part of the problem; voters like you, who vote for candidates simply because they have an R or D (or whatever the hell the other letters are) next to their name.

So you're changing your argument?

Posted by bad_luck on 4/6/2017 4:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 4/6/2017 3:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 4/6/2017 1:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 4/6/2017 1:02:00 PM (view original):
We need a third party, because clearly both the R and D parties are hopelessly broken.

I completely agree that the parties are ****, but adding a third party doesn't help. They parties went to **** because the constituents went to ****.

99% of the elected officials in this Country are already ****, because they're more worried about voting for their Party's stance than for the stance of the people who elected them. I don't know what that is, but it sure in the hell isn't Democracy. If you don't think a 3rd Party would help lessen the Party-line BS, you're dumber than I thought, and I didn't think that was possible.

You realize there five major political parties in the US, seven political parties with representation in at least one state, and like 30 minor political parties, right?

Having the option to vote for a third party doesn't solve anything because the number of parties isn't what creates the problems. The voters are.

Look at the recent Obamacare non-vote. The GOP controls the house, the senate, and the white house and couldn't even bring a bill to the house floor because GOP congressmen would have been murdered by their constituents if they didn't put together the perfect solution. And, since there is no perfect solution, they couldn't do anything.

Had the message from their constituents been, "please compromise and do your best to get us a bill that will pass and help solve some problems," instead of "if you don't get everything we want we'll primary you," a health care bill would have passed.

Wrong. There are two major political parties in the US. There are countless minor and basically inconsequential (at the national level) ones.

The US Senate has only 2 members who are not Democrat or Republican. The House has none.

The Republicans and the Democrats are polarized, Democrats to the left and Republicans to the right.

What we need is a third major party, a Centrist party. One that sits in the middle and, while it doesn't need to have a majority, it needs to have enough to prevent either of the other two to have a majority. Nothing can be done by either side without getting support from those in the middle. That would FORCE negotiation and compromise. And my gut feeling is that if and when this happens, you'll see those more moderate Democrats and Republicans (there must be some) leave their party and join the Centrists, to the point where the Centrists become the most powerful (and reasonable) voices in Washington.

LOL. And the streets will be paved with gold!!!

Posted by MikeT23 on 4/7/2017 11:21:00 AM (view original):
LOL. And the streets will be paved with gold!!!

And there will be a chicken in every pot!

Posted by tecwrg on 4/7/2017 11:19:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 4/6/2017 4:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 4/6/2017 3:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 4/6/2017 1:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 4/6/2017 1:02:00 PM (view original):
We need a third party, because clearly both the R and D parties are hopelessly broken.

I completely agree that the parties are ****, but adding a third party doesn't help. They parties went to **** because the constituents went to ****.

99% of the elected officials in this Country are already ****, because they're more worried about voting for their Party's stance than for the stance of the people who elected them. I don't know what that is, but it sure in the hell isn't Democracy. If you don't think a 3rd Party would help lessen the Party-line BS, you're dumber than I thought, and I didn't think that was possible.

You realize there five major political parties in the US, seven political parties with representation in at least one state, and like 30 minor political parties, right?

Having the option to vote for a third party doesn't solve anything because the number of parties isn't what creates the problems. The voters are.

Look at the recent Obamacare non-vote. The GOP controls the house, the senate, and the white house and couldn't even bring a bill to the house floor because GOP congressmen would have been murdered by their constituents if they didn't put together the perfect solution. And, since there is no perfect solution, they couldn't do anything.

Had the message from their constituents been, "please compromise and do your best to get us a bill that will pass and help solve some problems," instead of "if you don't get everything we want we'll primary you," a health care bill would have passed.

Wrong. There are two major political parties in the US. There are countless minor and basically inconsequential (at the national level) ones.

The US Senate has only 2 members who are not Democrat or Republican. The House has none.

The Republicans and the Democrats are polarized, Democrats to the left and Republicans to the right.

What we need is a third major party, a Centrist party. One that sits in the middle and, while it doesn't need to have a majority, it needs to have enough to prevent either of the other two to have a majority. Nothing can be done by either side without getting support from those in the middle. That would FORCE negotiation and compromise. And my gut feeling is that if and when this happens, you'll see those more moderate Democrats and Republicans (there must be some) leave their party and join the Centrists, to the point where the Centrists become the most powerful (and reasonable) voices in Washington.

There are other parties already. You're free to vote for them.

Posted by bad_luck on 4/7/2017 11:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 4/7/2017 11:19:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 4/6/2017 4:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 4/6/2017 3:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 4/6/2017 1:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 4/6/2017 1:02:00 PM (view original):
We need a third party, because clearly both the R and D parties are hopelessly broken.

I completely agree that the parties are ****, but adding a third party doesn't help. They parties went to **** because the constituents went to ****.

99% of the elected officials in this Country are already ****, because they're more worried about voting for their Party's stance than for the stance of the people who elected them. I don't know what that is, but it sure in the hell isn't Democracy. If you don't think a 3rd Party would help lessen the Party-line BS, you're dumber than I thought, and I didn't think that was possible.

You realize there five major political parties in the US, seven political parties with representation in at least one state, and like 30 minor political parties, right?

Having the option to vote for a third party doesn't solve anything because the number of parties isn't what creates the problems. The voters are.

Look at the recent Obamacare non-vote. The GOP controls the house, the senate, and the white house and couldn't even bring a bill to the house floor because GOP congressmen would have been murdered by their constituents if they didn't put together the perfect solution. And, since there is no perfect solution, they couldn't do anything.

Had the message from their constituents been, "please compromise and do your best to get us a bill that will pass and help solve some problems," instead of "if you don't get everything we want we'll primary you," a health care bill would have passed.

Wrong. There are two major political parties in the US. There are countless minor and basically inconsequential (at the national level) ones.

The US Senate has only 2 members who are not Democrat or Republican. The House has none.

The Republicans and the Democrats are polarized, Democrats to the left and Republicans to the right.

What we need is a third major party, a Centrist party. One that sits in the middle and, while it doesn't need to have a majority, it needs to have enough to prevent either of the other two to have a majority. Nothing can be done by either side without getting support from those in the middle. That would FORCE negotiation and compromise. And my gut feeling is that if and when this happens, you'll see those more moderate Democrats and Republicans (there must be some) leave their party and join the Centrists, to the point where the Centrists become the most powerful (and reasonable) voices in Washington.

There are other parties already. You're free to vote for them.

Which one should I vote for?

The Libertarians are all kooks.

The Green Party are all kooks.

All the other fringe parties are all kooks.

GORSUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!! ANOTHER WIN FOR THE DONALD AND AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by tecwrg on 4/7/2017 11:27:00 AM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 4/7/2017 11:21:00 AM (view original):
LOL. And the streets will be paved with gold!!!

And there will be a chicken in every pot!

chickens smoking pot would be funny!

Trump must really be in cahoots with Russia you know... especially after that missle strike in Syria. Yet Libs still think there's something there like some blackmail that russia has on trump or debts trump owes them.

Posted by tecwrg on 4/7/2017 11:52:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 4/7/2017 11:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 4/7/2017 11:19:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 4/6/2017 4:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 4/6/2017 3:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 4/6/2017 1:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 4/6/2017 1:02:00 PM (view original):
We need a third party, because clearly both the R and D parties are hopelessly broken.

I completely agree that the parties are ****, but adding a third party doesn't help. They parties went to **** because the constituents went to ****.

99% of the elected officials in this Country are already ****, because they're more worried about voting for their Party's stance than for the stance of the people who elected them. I don't know what that is, but it sure in the hell isn't Democracy. If you don't think a 3rd Party would help lessen the Party-line BS, you're dumber than I thought, and I didn't think that was possible.

You realize there five major political parties in the US, seven political parties with representation in at least one state, and like 30 minor political parties, right?

Having the option to vote for a third party doesn't solve anything because the number of parties isn't what creates the problems. The voters are.

Look at the recent Obamacare non-vote. The GOP controls the house, the senate, and the white house and couldn't even bring a bill to the house floor because GOP congressmen would have been murdered by their constituents if they didn't put together the perfect solution. And, since there is no perfect solution, they couldn't do anything.

Had the message from their constituents been, "please compromise and do your best to get us a bill that will pass and help solve some problems," instead of "if you don't get everything we want we'll primary you," a health care bill would have passed.

Wrong. There are two major political parties in the US. There are countless minor and basically inconsequential (at the national level) ones.

The US Senate has only 2 members who are not Democrat or Republican. The House has none.

The Republicans and the Democrats are polarized, Democrats to the left and Republicans to the right.

What we need is a third major party, a Centrist party. One that sits in the middle and, while it doesn't need to have a majority, it needs to have enough to prevent either of the other two to have a majority. Nothing can be done by either side without getting support from those in the middle. That would FORCE negotiation and compromise. And my gut feeling is that if and when this happens, you'll see those more moderate Democrats and Republicans (there must be some) leave their party and join the Centrists, to the point where the Centrists become the most powerful (and reasonable) voices in Washington.

There are other parties already. You're free to vote for them.

Which one should I vote for?

The Libertarians are all kooks.

The Green Party are all kooks.

All the other fringe parties are all kooks.

The only realistic shot at giving a third party power is to move away from the plurality voting system and to a proportional representation system.

Until then, a two party system will thrive, with the smaller parties relegated to one or two seats here or there nationally.

Currently about half the population supports Democrats and half support Republicans so when one gets elected you at least have 50% of the population's support and buy in for the President.

If you have a legitimate 3rd party and lets say all three parties get a third of the populations support... then when one wins only 33% of the country will be supportive of the President. That's not a good thing imo.

The major parties do change over time. It wasn't so long ago that JFK was a good catholic, strong on defense as a democrat. It wasn't that long ago when democrats fought to keep blacks segregated and Republicans fought like hell against gay marriage. Trump is the most moderate republican I've seen in some time when it comes to gay rights, transgender bathrooms, healthcare, social security and many other issues. He's pulling the party with him on these issues.