I remember months ago drafting the best version of Toad Ramsey and he got beat up pretty badly. Discussing it with a few other owners at the time, they had similar tales of woe. Man, I think this was like last fall or something though and Ramsey is my best option on a new team I am attempting to build.

I had some strange Eckersley troubles awhile back that others empathized with, but he has been back to old Eckersley from my experiences since then.

I guess my question is, is Toad Ramsey reliable? Are those BB/9 gonna kill me?

I have a hunch in this theme ($120mil cap) using him as a tandem SP he could be useful...
5/31/2010 10:59 PM
I have had trouble with him because of walks. I have never had much luck with him overall.
6/1/2010 12:02 AM
How could you pass this guy up??? Just think of the press! From newspaper clipping, BBHOF player file:

Louisville, KY., May 18. (1887) Editor, Sporting Life.

"Tom (Toad) Ramsey, the famous handed twirler of the Louisville club, was fined $50 last Monday and suspended indefinitely without pay. After pitching a bum game against the Baltimores, he went on a drunk with a scarlet woman and failed to report for duty until noon the next day...Ramsey was told that he could not play ball again with the Louisville club until he apologized for his conduct, voluntarily applied for a reinstatement, and signed a contract to abstain from both bad women and whiskey."



From an 1890 clipping:

King Thomas now has a new drink which is being known throughout the country as "Ramsey's cocktail." He will never allow a bar-keeper to mix his pet drink for him, but he always attends to the important duty himself. For ten cents he "rushes the growler," and then he pours a pint of whiskey into the beer. This is Tom Toad's favorite beverage, and they say he has been taking it in allopathic doses three time a day.

In 1886, Toad threw two successive one-hitters two days apart...striking out 17 in the first game and 16 in the second game...although by 1894, his drinking caused him to walk 14 in a contest facing a young Al Orth. He drank himself to death by 1906.
6/1/2010 12:06 AM


I’ve had the Jekyll and Hyde phenomenon happen with both Toad Ramsey and the 90 Eckersley.The 90 Eckersley most of the parameters were the same (except the opponents).Same home ballpark, same cap, same pitch count, same inning restrictions.ERA ended up being 6 runs differential.Crazy.
6/1/2010 10:29 AM
i've had no problems with Toad. i always feel people overreact to relievers...one season is way to small a sample size for ~100 IP relievers. i've used him as my closer or setup a few times in a variety of caps.
6/1/2010 4:04 PM
Toad is all over the place. some very good outings, some average outings and a few terrible ones. more erratic than most pitchers. not an ideal RP, I've had better results using him as a Spot Starter.
6/1/2010 11:07 PM

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