My starting rotation consists of 08 Ed Walsh (500 innings), 08 Addie Joss (342 innings) and 05 Carl Lundgren. I would appreciate it if someone would explain how to set this rotation whereas Walsh pitches every other game, Joss pitches every 3rd game and Lundgren pitches every 5th or 6th game. I would be willing to use a crappy AAA pitcher if necessary. Thanks.

If it were me, I'd set up Ed Walsh as Starter #1, Joss as Starter #2 and Lundgren ans Starter #3. Set Lundgren's auto rest very high (at least 95). The end result won't be exactly what you're looking for, but it's as close as I know how to do it.

If Lundgren has at least 160 innings, use tandem 2a/2b with Joss. Otherwise he's a relief pitcher. Easy.

Set everyone's pitchcount to 85/85.

Set everyones autorest to 99.

Set everyone's pull settings to 1.

Set all starters to not be used in relief.

Starter 1 Lundgren

Starter 2 Walsh

Starter 3 Joss

Lundgren will get about 29 starts.

Walsh will get about 79 starts.

Joss will get about 54 starts.

If you are dead set on Walsh getting 81 starts and Joss getting 54 starts (and Lundgren getting the remaining 27 starts) then Walsh needs to average 84.6 pitches per start, Joss needs to average 87.7 pitches per start, and Lundgren needs to average 92.3 pitches per start. So set the pitch counts to 80, 85 and 90 respectively.

Quote: Originally Posted By elbirdo on 3/03/2010
Set everyone's pitchcount to 85/85.

Set everyones autorest to 99.

Set everyone's pull settings to 1.

Set all starters to not be used in relief.

Starter 1 Lundgren

Starter 2 Walsh

Starter 3 Joss

Lundgren will get about 29 starts.

Walsh will get about 79 starts.

Joss will get about 54 starts.

If you are dead set on Walsh getting 81 starts and Joss getting 54 starts (and Lundgren getting the remaining 27 starts) then Walsh needs to average 84.6 pitches per start, Joss needs to average 87.7 pitches per start, and Lundgren needs to average 92.3 pitches per start. So set the pitch counts to 80, 85 and 90 respectively.

How do you calculate all that?

Quote: Originally Posted By BornIrish on 3/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By elbirdo on 3/03/2010

Set everyone's pitchcount to 85/85.

Set everyones autorest to 99.

Set everyone's pull settings to 1.

Set all starters to not be used in relief.

Starter 1 Lundgren

Starter 2 Walsh

Starter 3 Joss

Lundgren will get about 29 starts.

Walsh will get about 79 starts.

Joss will get about 54 starts.

If you are dead set on Walsh getting 81 starts and Joss getting 54 starts (and Lundgren getting the remaining 27 starts) then Walsh needs to average 84.6 pitches per start, Joss needs to average 87.7 pitches per start, and Lundgren needs to average 92.3 pitches per start. So set the pitch counts to 80, 85 and 90 respectively.

How do you calculate all that?

First, you need to know what each of your pitchers seasonal pitch allocation is. There's a thread around here somewhere that explains how to approximate that. My original calculations were off a bit because I used 13.85 as the pitches per inning when calculating each starter's seasonal pitch allocation. (This underestimated Lundgren's allocation by almost 300) Here's the seasonal pitch allocation for each of the three starters using the method described in the other thread.

Walsh = 7160 pitches
Joss = 4719 pitches
Lundgren = 2767 pitches

That's a total = 14646 pitches allocated to all three starters.

So if you have 162 games, that comes to 14646/162 or 90.4 pitches per game.

If you limit each pitcher to an average of 90.4 pitches per start then you can determine how many starts each pitcher should make by dividing his seasonal pitch allocation by 90.4.

Walsh = 7160/90.4 = 79.2 starts
Joss = 4719/90.4 = 52.2 starts
Lundgren = 2767/90.4 = 30.6 starts

Since decimals make no sense here, round that to 79, 52 and 31 starts, respectively.

If you insist that Walsh makes 81 starts, Joss 54, and Lundgren the remaining 27, then adjust each pitcher's pitches per game by dividing his seasonal pitch allocation by the number of starts you want him to make..

Walsh = 7160/81 = 88.4 pitches/game
Joss = 4719/54 = 87.4 pitches per game
Lundrgen = 2767/27 = 102.5 pitches per game

You may have to hover over your rotation for the first few games, but if you have your autorest settings at 99%, Sparky will dutifully skip Joss and Lundgren if they haven't fully recovered. Lundgren should require about 5 days of rest to recover after throwing 102 pitches (he can pitch every 6th game). Joss should need 2 days of rest (he can pitch every 3rd game). Walsh can pitch every other game.

Caveat: Do not make Walsh your #3 starter, it will screw things up the first time thru the lineup.

Quote: Originally Posted By elbirdo on 3/05/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By BornIrish on 3/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By elbirdo on 3/03/2010

Set everyone's pitchcount to 85/85.

Set everyones autorest to 99.

Set everyone's pull settings to 1.

Set all starters to not be used in relief.

Starter 1 Lundgren

Starter 2 Walsh

Starter 3 Joss

Lundgren will get about 29 starts.

Walsh will get about 79 starts.

Joss will get about 54 starts.

If you are dead set on Walsh getting 81 starts and Joss getting 54 starts (and Lundgren getting the remaining 27 starts) then Walsh needs to average 84.6 pitches per start, Joss needs to average 87.7 pitches per start, and Lundgren needs to average 92.3 pitches per start. So set the pitch counts to 80, 85 and 90 respectively.

How do you calculate all that?

First, you need to know what each of your pitchers seasonal pitch allocation is. There's a thread around here somewhere that explains how to approximate that. My original calculations were off a bit because I used 13.85 as the pitches per inning when calculating each starter's seasonal pitch allocation. (This underestimated Lundgren's allocation by almost 300) Here's the seasonal pitch allocation for each of the three starters using the method described in the other thread.

Walsh = 7160 pitches
Joss = 4719 pitches
Lundgren = 2767 pitches

That's a total = 14646 pitches allocated to all three starters.

So if you have 162 games, that comes to 14646/162 or 90.4 pitches per game.

If you limit each pitcher to an average of 90.4 pitches per start then you can determine how many starts each pitcher should make by dividing his seasonal pitch allocation by 90.4.

Walsh = 7160/90.4 = 79.2 starts
Joss = 4719/90.4 = 52.2 starts
Lundgren = 2767/90.4 = 30.6 starts

Since decimals make no sense here, round that to 79, 52 and 31 starts, respectively.

If you insist that Walsh makes 81 starts, Joss 54, and Lundgren the remaining 27, then adjust each pitcher's pitches per game by dividing his seasonal pitch allocation by the number of starts you want him to make..

Walsh = 7160/81 = 88.4 pitches/game
Joss = 4719/54 = 87.4 pitches per game
Lundrgen = 2767/27 = 102.5 pitches per game

You may have to hover over your rotation for the first few games, but if you have your autorest settings at 99%, Sparky will dutifully skip Joss and Lundgren if they haven't fully recovered. Lundgren should require about 5 days of rest to recover after throwing 102 pitches (he can pitch every 6th game). Joss should need 2 days of rest (he can pitch every 3rd game). Walsh can pitch every other game.

Caveat: Do not make Walsh your #3 starter, it will screw things up the first time thru the lineup.

Can't argue with that logic (well Boogerlips could, but thats another story). It was well reasoned and because of that it is the winner of the "Post -of-the-Week" award. Congrats

Quote: Originally Posted By truemen on 3/05/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By elbirdo on 3/05/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By BornIrish on 3/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By elbirdo on 3/03/2010

Set everyone's pitchcount to 85/85.

Set everyones autorest to 99.

Set everyone's pull settings to 1.

Set all starters to not be used in relief.

Starter 1 Lundgren

Starter 2 Walsh

Starter 3 Joss

Lundgren will get about 29 starts.

Walsh will get about 79 starts.

Joss will get about 54 starts.

If you are dead set on Walsh getting 81 starts and Joss getting 54 starts (and Lundgren getting the remaining 27 starts) then Walsh needs to average 84.6 pitches per start, Joss needs to average 87.7 pitches per start, and Lundgren needs to average 92.3 pitches per start. So set the pitch counts to 80, 85 and 90 respectively.

How do you calculate all that?

First, you need to know what each of your pitchers seasonal pitch allocation is. There's a thread around here somewhere that explains how to approximate that. My original calculations were off a bit because I used 13.85 as the pitches per inning when calculating each starter's seasonal pitch allocation. (This underestimated Lundgren's allocation by almost 300) Here's the seasonal pitch allocation for each of the three starters using the method described in the other thread.

Walsh = 7160 pitches
Joss = 4719 pitches
Lundgren = 2767 pitches

That's a total = 14646 pitches allocated to all three starters.

So if you have 162 games, that comes to 14646/162 or 90.4 pitches per game.

If you limit each pitcher to an average of 90.4 pitches per start then you can determine how many starts each pitcher should make by dividing his seasonal pitch allocation by 90.4.

Walsh = 7160/90.4 = 79.2 starts
Joss = 4719/90.4 = 52.2 starts
Lundgren = 2767/90.4 = 30.6 starts

Since decimals make no sense here, round that to 79, 52 and 31 starts, respectively.

If you insist that Walsh makes 81 starts, Joss 54, and Lundgren the remaining 27, then adjust each pitcher's pitches per game by dividing his seasonal pitch allocation by the number of starts you want him to make..

Walsh = 7160/81 = 88.4 pitches/game
Joss = 4719/54 = 87.4 pitches per game
Lundrgen = 2767/27 = 102.5 pitches per game

You may have to hover over your rotation for the first few games, but if you have your autorest settings at 99%, Sparky will dutifully skip Joss and Lundgren if they haven't fully recovered. Lundgren should require about 5 days of rest to recover after throwing 102 pitches (he can pitch every 6th game). Joss should need 2 days of rest (he can pitch every 3rd game). Walsh can pitch every other game.

Caveat: Do not make Walsh your #3 starter, it will screw things up the first time thru the lineup.

Can't argue with that logic (well Boogerlips could, but thats another story). It was well reasoned and because of that it is the winner of the "Post -of-the-Week" award. Congrats

I still don't understand why you requote this long sequence of posts just to respond to the person who posted last. Really breaks up the conversation.

Quote: Originally Posted By boogerlips on 3/05/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By truemen on 3/05/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By elbirdo on 3/05/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By BornIrish on 3/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By elbirdo on 3/03/2010

Set everyone's pitchcount to 85/85.

Set everyones autorest to 99.

Set everyone's pull settings to 1.

Set all starters to not be used in relief.

Starter 1 Lundgren

Starter 2 Walsh

Starter 3 Joss

Lundgren will get about 29 starts.

Walsh will get about 79 starts.

Joss will get about 54 starts.

If you are dead set on Walsh getting 81 starts and Joss getting 54 starts (and Lundgren getting the remaining 27 starts) then Walsh needs to average 84.6 pitches per start, Joss needs to average 87.7 pitches per start, and Lundgren needs to average 92.3 pitches per start. So set the pitch counts to 80, 85 and 90 respectively.

How do you calculate all that?

First, you need to know what each of your pitchers seasonal pitch allocation is. There's a thread around here somewhere that explains how to approximate that. My original calculations were off a bit because I used 13.85 as the pitches per inning when calculating each starter's seasonal pitch allocation. (This underestimated Lundgren's allocation by almost 300) Here's the seasonal pitch allocation for each of the three starters using the method described in the other thread.

Walsh = 7160 pitches
Joss = 4719 pitches
Lundgren = 2767 pitches

That's a total = 14646 pitches allocated to all three starters.

So if you have 162 games, that comes to 14646/162 or 90.4 pitches per game.

If you limit each pitcher to an average of 90.4 pitches per start then you can determine how many starts each pitcher should make by dividing his seasonal pitch allocation by 90.4.

Walsh = 7160/90.4 = 79.2 starts
Joss = 4719/90.4 = 52.2 starts
Lundgren = 2767/90.4 = 30.6 starts

Since decimals make no sense here, round that to 79, 52 and 31 starts, respectively.

If you insist that Walsh makes 81 starts, Joss 54, and Lundgren the remaining 27, then adjust each pitcher's pitches per game by dividing his seasonal pitch allocation by the number of starts you want him to make..

Walsh = 7160/81 = 88.4 pitches/game
Joss = 4719/54 = 87.4 pitches per game
Lundrgen = 2767/27 = 102.5 pitches per game

You may have to hover over your rotation for the first few games, but if you have your autorest settings at 99%, Sparky will dutifully skip Joss and Lundgren if they haven't fully recovered. Lundgren should require about 5 days of rest to recover after throwing 102 pitches (he can pitch every 6th game). Joss should need 2 days of rest (he can pitch every 3rd game). Walsh can pitch every other game.

Caveat: Do not make Walsh your #3 starter, it will screw things up the first time thru the lineup.

Can't argue with that logic (well Boogerlips could, but thats another story). It was well reasoned and because of that it is the winner of the "Post -of-the-Week" award. Congrats

I still don't understand why you requote this long sequence of posts just to respond to the person who posted last. Really breaks up the conversation

Does that make sense? or am I just a silly hillbilly?

this thread saved me from an embarassing rookie mistake I had guys like Joss,and Johnson when I would see them at 100% I would plug them in for the next game now I know that this will kill me later on. thanks guys

Seems awfully complicated to me, I just make sure to draft more than 925 innings for my starters. Sometimes I need a little help from aaa starter. I lower pitch counts based on actual ip, around 110 mpc for a 300 inning guy. It's worked ok for me.

Quote: Originally Posted By boogerlips on 3/05/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By truemen on 3/05/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By elbirdo on 3/05/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By BornIrish on 3/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By elbirdo on 3/03/2010

Set everyone's pitchcount to 85/85.

Set everyones autorest to 99.

Set everyone's pull settings to 1.

Set all starters to not be used in relief.

Starter 1 Lundgren

Starter 2 Walsh

Starter 3 Joss

Lundgren will get about 29 starts.

Walsh will get about 79 starts.

Joss will get about 54 starts.

If you are dead set on Walsh getting 81 starts and Joss getting 54 starts (and Lundgren getting the remaining 27 starts) then Walsh needs to average 84.6 pitches per start, Joss needs to average 87.7 pitches per start, and Lundgren needs to average 92.3 pitches per start. So set the pitch counts to 80, 85 and 90 respectively.

How do you calculate all that?

First, you need to know what each of your pitchers seasonal pitch allocation is. There's a thread around here somewhere that explains how to approximate that. My original calculations were off a bit because I used 13.85 as the pitches per inning when calculating each starter's seasonal pitch allocation. (This underestimated Lundgren's allocation by almost 300) Here's the seasonal pitch allocation for each of the three starters using the method described in the other thread.

Walsh = 7160 pitches
Joss = 4719 pitches
Lundgren = 2767 pitches

That's a total = 14646 pitches allocated to all three starters.

So if you have 162 games, that comes to 14646/162 or 90.4 pitches per game.

If you limit each pitcher to an average of 90.4 pitches per start then you can determine how many starts each pitcher should make by dividing his seasonal pitch allocation by 90.4.

Walsh = 7160/90.4 = 79.2 starts
Joss = 4719/90.4 = 52.2 starts
Lundgren = 2767/90.4 = 30.6 starts

Since decimals make no sense here, round that to 79, 52 and 31 starts, respectively.

If you insist that Walsh makes 81 starts, Joss 54, and Lundgren the remaining 27, then adjust each pitcher's pitches per game by dividing his seasonal pitch allocation by the number of starts you want him to make..

Walsh = 7160/81 = 88.4 pitches/game
Joss = 4719/54 = 87.4 pitches per game
Lundrgen = 2767/27 = 102.5 pitches per game

You may have to hover over your rotation for the first few games, but if you have your autorest settings at 99%, Sparky will dutifully skip Joss and Lundgren if they haven't fully recovered. Lundgren should require about 5 days of rest to recover after throwing 102 pitches (he can pitch every 6th game). Joss should need 2 days of rest (he can pitch every 3rd game). Walsh can pitch every other game.

Caveat: Do not make Walsh your #3 starter, it will screw things up the first time thru the lineup.

Can't argue with that logic (well Boogerlips could, but thats another story). It was well reasoned and because of that it is the winner of the "Post -of-the-Week" award. Congrats

I still don't understand why you requote this long sequence of posts just to respond to the person who posted last. Really breaks up the conversation

Agreed