255M Draft Writeups Topic

Posted by toysboys on 9/11/2024 1:11:00 PM (view original):
Can someone enlighten me about "calling an audible" reference during the draft?
I believe d_rock97 wanted to draft Freddie Freeman to be his starting 1B b/c he was by far and away the best hitter available. But he already drafted Javy Lopez.to play catcher (in round 8). He could have shifted to a Baltimore version of Lopez and then taken Freeman. Lopez' 2004 Orioles season (638 pa, .316, .370, .503) isn't too shabby. He chose not to audible and later drafted Vlad Guerrero Jr to play 1B.

d_rock97's starting lineup is very right-handed and probably could have used another lefty masher
Lopez (R), Guerrero Jr. (R), Loretta (R), Sanchez (R), Reyes (S), Harper (L), Judge (R), Ordonez (R), Ohtani (L).
9/11/2024 1:31 PM
Makes sense. Freeman was definitely the best player not drafted. It's just that there are so many player anomalies in 2020.
9/11/2024 2:22 PM
Posted by toysboys on 9/11/2024 2:22:00 PM (view original):
Makes sense. Freeman was definitely the best player not drafted. It's just that there are so many player anomalies in 2020.
I’ll be reminding myself of this every time Darvish has a lousy start.
9/11/2024 2:35 PM
I will attempt to do a quick draft write-up, but my memory is not what is used to be:

Round 1, pick 6 - 1980 George Brett
After 5 pitchers went ahead of me, I knew I was going to go hitter, as I don't think anyone "fell" to me and I would just be starting off with the 7th best pitching team. I also wanted someone between near the middle, so I would have many years to choose from in future rounds. My initial thought was to go Bonds. I had first pick in the last round of the previous Juice tournament, and I picked Bonds and built a Coors team and ended up winning. I talked myself out of it this time because most of the teams that already picked took somewhat modern pitchers and I thought that if I leaned 70's / 80's, then every time my pick came up, I would essentially have 2 picks in a row. That kind of ability to always make 2 picks at once seemed super valuable to me, so I went with Brett instead.

Round 2, pick 19 - 1972 Steve Carlton
I had so many targets here like Morgan, Tudor, Chance, etc. and they were long gone when my pick came up. I realized that my pitching was not going to be great compared to what everyone already had on the board, so I decided to take Carlton who has one big advantage over everyone else available. 360 innings. In a draft like this, that's like getting 2 pitchers at once. He was also only 8 years earlier than Brett, so it doesn't totally lock me in to the early years just yet. A few teams could still pick him, so I pulled the trigger

Round 3, pick 6 - 1964 Joe Horlen
This was the turning point pick of the draft. There were a few early 90's hitters I really considered here, mainly Nomar Garciaparra. He was a great deal, at a weak position for this spot. At this point in the draft, I didn't realize, or think about how much more relief pitching was available in the modern years, and I think in hindsight I would have preferred to go that direction. But in this moment, I came back to my strategy from round 1, which was I still thought it was a huge advantage to have no one from picks 1-5 drafting in the same range I am. I can't remember who else I considered, but starting pitching was getting ugly and I decided Horlen was the best on the board for me.

Round 4, pick 19 - 1975 or 1979 Fred Lynn
I went with 1975 in the end, but this Lynn pick gave me 2 options to pick from in a range (72 Carlton to 80 Brett) that I was already committed to. In addition, I wanted to try and make as many offensive picks that I can of players that have good defense while they are still out there. In case I have to start sacrificing one for the other later.

Round 5, pick 6 - 1977 Bruce Sutter
This was the moment I realized how shallow relief pitching is between 1964 and 1980. So I probably panicked a bit, but if I wanted to have any elite relievers, I had to snatch some early in order to compete with these modern bullpens. I kind of felt I was in trouble at this point, but hoping the ability to always plan 2 picks at once later would even that out a bit. I think I should have picked a short top here. Specifically, I should have picked 1982 Yount as he fit perfectly into what I am starting to build . I also considered 1981 Goose Gossage as he is probably the best RP I had access to, but there were about a dozen 1981 players I was interested in and I decided to leave that year until way later because of it. Like Carlton, a nice advantage of Sutter is 108 innings, so I get another 2 for 1 compared to what most people will be taking

Round 6, pick 19 - 1984 Kirby Puckett
Yount went in round 5, not even close, and Rickey Henderson went a few picks before me. Kirby stood out here as someone who hit almost .360 with A/A defense. Most of the other hitters with that kind of average were a total disaster on defense. Kirby also had decent doubles and now I'm thinking I have the makings of a pretty good doubles team with Brett and especially 75 Lynn if I use that version. I also like to have good outfield range on a doubles team as I would of course try to put myself in a doubles park. Lynn is ideal for that and Kirby fits well. I was pretty sure that no one could make my next choice as well at this point so my plan is strting to come together.

Round 7, pick 6 - 1979 Keith Hernandez
This pick and reasoning is almost identical to Kirby. Keith his .340 and played A/A defense in 1979 and also had 7 2B#. This is where I officially commit to 1975 Lynn. I am committed to doubles and I think I am committed to defensive players so I can help my pitching staff which is starting to look like bottom half of the league, if that.

Round 8, pick 19 - 1986 Steve Sax
I can't remember what my options were here, but Sax stood it for middle infielders with his .330+ avg and reasonable good defense. I was also looking at Davey Johnson at 2B, but his average wasn't close to Sax and I thought it was a reach to grab him just for his elite range. I needed to keep grabbing good hitters while I can. 1986 didn't have many other players left I liked and Sax did hit 6 2B# which was at the top for his position.

Round 9, pick 6 - 1987 Paul Molitor
Molitor's hitting profile was too good to pass up for me here. .350 / .430 and 8 2B#. He is my starting DH, but he also played a terrible 3B (C/D-). This is not nothing for me, as I know I have some George Brett PA I need to fill in at some point. I would prefer it not to be Molitor, but at least it's there if I have to.

Round 10, pick 19 / Round 11, pick 6 - 1985 Steve Ontiveros / 1967 Ted Abernathy
I feel like a have a good base of hitters now and I need to turn my attention to my staff. We are passed the point of getting any great starting pitching. At least there are a few relievers with higher IP that I can lock in. I took Ontiveros first bc I knew I can get Abernathy on the way back. This is another 180+ IP that were MUCH better than any starter I could get. Hoping I can maybe fill my innings with 10 or 11 pitchers which could allow me to steal some nice bench bats at the end

Round 12, pick 19 / Round 13, pick 6 - 1984 Dan Gladden / 1965 Robin Roberts
I only need one more OF and I think I held out too long on Eric Davis who dropped way too far, although I plan on supressing homers in my park so maybe he was not a great fit. Gladden is sub 400 PA , but he hit .350+ with .410 OBP and plays defense. Hopefully I can platoon the final OF spot and build a pretty good player. 1965 Robin Roberts is up there with my favourite relievers. Low walks, low homers and a tough year to fill for me. In addition, I have been holding out on my SP3 because very few teams can pick from 1969 which has Fritz Peterson and Larry Dierker. Dierker got picked this round and I think I figured out that I could wait until the end for Peterson at this point. That was pretty huge and it also convinced me to go with Roberts as my Astro now. The only other one I liked is 1981 Nolan Ryan, and like I said above, I like lots of 1981 players, most of which are still out there.

Round 14, pick 19 / Round 15, pick 6 - 1982 John Stearns / 1976 Fred Holdsworth
At this point I can pretty much guarantee I will be getting a lot of the players I want to finish off my team. It's just a matter of picking players that I know others can still take. Catcher is dry at this point. I really liked 1981 Bo Diaz who had a crazy double season and amazing year, but again, 1981. 1970 and 1971 Sanguillen are out there to finish the platoon. The teams that can take him have catchers, so I am willing to risk it. So therefore I take Stearns who fills my Met (I don't like anyone else) and 1982 was a tough year. He also hit 7 2B#. I am committed. In hindsight, Holdsworth was a mistake. At this point I had decided to just roll with Molitor as my Brett 3B platoon, but later I ended up realizing that was a bad idea. It was too late then, but had I realized it now, I would have loved to take 1970 Paul Blair here. He has insane range at 3B and OF and he could have completed both those platoons for me. I ended up with 70 Sanguillen, but I could have easily pivoted to 71 as they are the same. Holdsworth is solid, but my team would be better with Blair.

Round 16, pick 19 / Round 17, pick 6 - 1983 Lloyd Moseby, Palace of the Fans / 1970 Manny Sanguillen / 1981 Rick Burleson
Moseby became urgent at this point. I forgot that there are no Mariners or Blue Jays before 1977, so I had to get one of them from after that year, and it was slim pickings. Moseby was not someone I could risk leaving and I decided to go all in on doubles + homer supressing stadium with the palace. I knew I was getting Fritz P soon and I also was able to guarantee a farly decent 300 IP Fergie Jenkins whose only real difference between him and Fritz is a homer prevention issue. I can start him at home. I know I have enough IP for the Palace so I pull the trigger. Sanguillen I mentioned before completes my platoon and I finally pull the trigger on my 1981 player. Burleson can hit a bit but plays elite defense. My team is stacked with elite defenders who will have plenty of chances at home.

Round 18 - 1969 Fritz Peterson - no point in waiting any longer
Round 18 - 1968 Gates Brown - So excited to get this elite bench hitter (and doubles!). Fills in some Molitor PA at DH
Round 19 - 1966 Pat Jarvis - Has a decent SP season in 1968 but the RP season is really nice
Round 19 - 1974 Fergie Jenkins - As noted above. Really need this IP for my park. He's as good as Fritz in a -4 homer park I think
Round 20 - 1978 Mickey Lolich - Not terrible but he is my mop-up
Round 20 - 1971 Graig Nettles - I knew like 10 rounds ago that I could hold out until the end for 1971 Mingori , who is a very solid reliever. This probably blinded me to the Paul Blair idea I noted above. Now that I'm here and I already have 1600 innings, I realize that 50 more IP is not as useful as getting Molitor's C/D- off 3B for 200 PA. Nettles is luckily here, but I would have loved to have picked Blair earlier.
Round 20 - 1973 Bernie Allen - 200K bench bat

I like my strategy and I liked that it worked out pretty much how I wanted, however I can't get passed the fact the modern teams were taking ELITE ELITE relievers right up until the end and I had to reach for one in the 5th round. I'm not sure I can keep up, but we will see.



9/11/2024 3:01 PM
I like my strategy and I liked that it worked out pretty much how I wanted, however I can't get passed the fact the modern teams were taking ELITE ELITE relievers right up until the end and I had to reach for one in the 5th round. I'm not sure I can keep up, but we will see.

Yeah this is my problem too!
9/12/2024 11:45 AM
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