HOF and 16x Gold Glover Brooks Robinson has past away.

Being from Philly I always say Mike Schmidt was the greatest of all time (10GG), but defensively we have to give Brooks a small edge.

RIP
9/26/2023 8:00 PM
I've used him a few leagues, including my first World Series winning team.

Now, 2023, stay away from Carl Yastrzemski!!!!
9/26/2023 8:21 PM



Brooks Robinson, Slick-Fielding Hall of Fame Third Baseman, Dies at 86

In his 23-year career, all of it with the Baltimore Orioles, he had 2,848 hits and 268 home runs. But he was best known for his unparalleled defense.

Brooks Robinson, the Baltimore Orioles Hall of Famer who was perhaps the finest third baseman in baseball history, has died. He was 86.

His death was announced by the Orioles in a statement that did not include further information.

In his 23 seasons with the Orioles, from 1955 to 1977, Robinson became known as the Human Vacuum Cleaner for his ability to snare just about anything hit his way.

Charging topped grounders or bunts, backhanding smashes, ranging to his left or his right, he won 16 consecutive Gold Glove awards as the American League’s leading fielder at third base. Only the pitcher Greg Maddux, with 18 Gold Gloves, has exceeded Robinson’s total.

Robinson played on four pennant-winning teams, two of them World Series champions. He was the most valuable player of the 1970 World Series, in which the Orioles beat the Cincinnati Reds in five games, for his spectacular plays and for his hitting: He had a .429 batting average and hit a pair of home runs. (The Orioles also beat the Los Angeles Dodgers in four games in the 1966 Series.)

Robinson had 2,848 hits, 268 home runs and a career batting average of .267. He was the American League’s Most Valuable Player in 1964, when he hit 28 homers, had a league-leading 118 runs batted in and batted .317, all career highs. But he was best known for his fielding.

Robinson was named an All-Star every season from 1960 to 1974. He was elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1983, his first year of eligibility, with almost 92 percent of the votes.

In an interview with the former baseball commissioner Fay Vincent for his 2008 oral history, “We Would Have Played for Nothing,” Robinson recalled that after the 1970 World Series, “all the writers were waiting on me to come to my locker,” but Rex Barney, the Orioles’ broadcaster, said: “Well, don’t worry about him. Just interview his gloves. They’re a lot better, and that’s who’s doing all the work.”

Robinson wasn’t using his World Series glove the next year. It had been transported to the Hall of Fame.

Brooks Calbert Robinson was born on May 18, 1937, in Little Rock, Ark., where his father was a fireman and also played semipro baseball. He listened to St. Louis Cardinals games on the radio and grew determined to become a major league player. Tossing tennis balls against the steps of his family home hour after hour and grabbing the caroms, he taught himself to field a baseball coming at him from all sorts of angles.

Signed by the Orioles’ organization out of high school, Robinson started out as a second baseman for their York, Pa., farm team in 1955. But he was soon switched to third base, where his marvelous reactions enabled him to corral hard-hit balls.

Robinson got into a few games with the Orioles in 1955 and 1956. In the spring of 1957, Paul Richards, the team’s manager, thought he found a flaw in the mechanics of Robinson’s backhand plays and asked George Kell, the longtime third baseman who was concluding his major league career with the Orioles, to correct it.

But Kell noted that Robinson had not missed a ball hit to his backhand in six weeks of spring training. “He was already so good that there wasn’t much I could tell him,” Kell recalled in an interview with The Baltimore Sun in 2004.

Robinson played 145 games with the Orioles in 1958 (he hit a disappointing .238) and, after serving six months in the Arkansas National Guard and spending much of the 1959 season in the minor leagues, returned to the Orioles to stay in 1960.

With Robinson at third base and the future Hall of Famer Luis Aparicio and later Mark Belanger, both brilliant fielders, alongside him at shortstop for much of his career, the left side of the Orioles’ infield provided all the support a pitcher could want.

“I always had great hand-eye coordination and was blessed with the instinct to be where the baseball was hit,” Robinson told Danny Peary for his book “We Played the Game” (1994).

“I wasn’t fast and I didn’t have a great arm,” he added, “yet I compensated by quickly getting my feet in position to throw and getting rid of the ball quicker than anyone else.”

Robinson complemented his natural talents with hard work.

He told Fay Vincent how he “worked on the slow hit, the topped balls or bunts.”

“I used to line up about 10 or 12 balls in a row,” he recalled. “You just come in and pick one up and you’d take another step and pick one up and throw it.”

When Robinson retired, he held major league records for most games, putouts, assists and double plays by a third baseman, as well as highest fielding percentage. He was later a television broadcaster for the Orioles.

Information about his survivors was not immediately available.

When Robinson entered the Hall of Fame, Kell, a fellow Arkansas native, was inducted as well. (Robinson was selected by baseball writers, Kell by the Veterans Committee.)

“Is Brooks the best ever at third? No doubt about it,” Kell told The Sun in 2004.

Sparky Anderson, who managed the Reds in the 1970 World Series, found himself tormented by all those sure hits that Robinson turned into outs.

“I’m beginning to see Brooks in my sleep,” Investor’s Business Daily said Anderson remarked that October. “If I dropped this paper plate, he’d pick it up on one hop and throw me out at first.”

9/26/2023 11:20 PM (edited)
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Schmidt was a great defensive 3B, 10 gold gloves, especially adept at bare hand grab and throw.

Who's the greatest third baseman?

Going by career WAR, here's how the Hall of Fame third basemen stack up (courtesy of Baseball-Reference's StatHead):

  1. Mike Schmidt - 106.8

  2. Eddie Mathews - 96.0

  3. Wade Boggs - 91.4

  4. George Brett - 88.6

  5. Chipper Jones - 85.3

  6. Brooks Robinson - 78.4

Robinson gets by far the most value from his defense. In fact, Robinson's 39.1 defensive WAR is third-highest in baseball history -- at any position -- behind shortstops Ozzie Smith at 44.2 and (Orioles teammate) Mark Belanger at 39.5. Robinson's 16 Gold Gloves rank second all-time to pitcher Greg Maddux's 18.

Arranado 54.3

9/27/2023 4:46 PM
where's, defensively, omar vizquel at SS

brooksy dealin

and do you really think BR deserved every one of those GGs?
9/27/2023 6:38 PM
Vizquel 45.6, 11 GG, but most of them were at SS.

Fot the time period Brooks played in,yes I think he deserved them.
9/27/2023 6:55 PM
right i switched the subject on you to SS

can you show the list of defensive SS from #1 on down to my boy vizquel

that i might learn

(i can guarantee you that bum jeter is not in the top 200 at the most important defensive position in the field)



re Brooks, each and every? all 16?

surely during that long period o dominance he must have been exceeded at least once
9/27/2023 7:26 PM

Rawlings Gold Glove Award ®

Most Gold Gloves By A Shortstop (4+)

Name Quantity
Ozzie Smith 13
Omar Vizquel 11

Rawlings Gold Glove Award ®

Most Gold Gloves By A Third Baseman (5+)

Name Quantity
Brooks Robinson 16
Nolan Arenado 10
Mike Schmidt 10


Jeter had 5
9/27/2023 7:39 PM (edited)
ok i looked it up myself

Derek Jeter the captain the pretty decent GM the brady-like ability to hustle supermodels the good playoff hitter but the career crappy fielder

number #499 all time defensive SS (omar #7)

ha ha 499 and yet a HOFer at the preeminent defensive position in the field

what a punk! gold gloves is a joke

let's look at Brooks now
9/27/2023 8:01 PM
rank 3B def WAR
1 Brooks Robinson HOF 39.1
2 Adrián Beltré 27.0
3 Buddy Bell 23.8
4 Clete Boyer 21.6
5 Graig Nettles 21.4
6 Scott Rolen HOF 21.2
7 Nolan Arenado 19.0
8 Lee Tannehill 18.6
9 Mike Schmidt HOF 18.4
10 Robin Ventura 17.9
11 Jimmy Collins HOF 16.8
12 Gary Gaetti 15.9
13 Lave Cross 15.0
14 Aurelio Rodriguez 14.7
15 Brandon Inge 14.4
16 Juan Uribe 14.2
17 Manny Machado 14.0
18 Wade Boggs HOF 13.9
19 Terry Pendleton 13.5
20 Evan Longoria 13.3
21 Ed Williamson 13.0
22 Matt Williams 12.8
23 Nick Punto 12.5
24 Arlie Latham 12.4
25 Ossie Bluege 12.4
26 Bill Bradley 11.8
27 Matt Chapman 11.8
28 Larry Gardner 10.8
29 Ken McMullen 10.8
30 Ken Boyer 10.7
31 Tim Wallach 10.5
32 Jeff Cirillo 10.4
33 Art Devlin 10.2
34 David Bell 9.9
35 Doug DeCinces 9.7
36 Home Run Baker HOF 9.6
37 Willie Kamm 9.4
38 Ron Santo HOF 8.7
39 Heinie Groh 8.6
40 Sal Bando 8.5
41 Joe Crede 8.5
42 Tommy Leach 8.0
43 Ke'Bryan Hayes 7.8
44 Kyle Seager 7.6
45 Harry Steinfeldt 7.6
46 Ryan McMahon 7.5
47 Billy Nash 7.4
48 Martín Prado 7.4
49 Ossie Vitt 7.4
50 Ken Keltner 7.2
51 Tom Brookens 6.9
52 Pedro Feliz 6.9
53 Jerry Denny 6.8
54 Ron Cey 6.6
55 Eddie Foster 6.6
56 Mike Mowrey 6.4
57 Eric Chavez 6.3
58 John Castino 6.3
59 Josh Donaldson 6.2
60 Travis Fryman 6.2
61 Eric Soderholm 6.2
62 Billy Shindle 6.2
63 Art Whitney 6.2
64 Vinny Castilla 6.1
65 Tim Hulett 6.0
66 Red Rolfe 5.7
67 Tony Batista 5.7
68 Eddie Mathews HOF 5.6
69 José Ramírez 5.6
70 Alex Bregman 5.6
71 Billy Werber 5.5
72 Jerry Kenney 5.5
73 Babe Pinelli 5.5
74 Joe Battin 5.5
75 Corey Koskie 5.4
76 Ken Oberkfell 5.4
77 Jim Davenport 5.4
78 Steve Buechele 5.4
79 Frank Malzone 5.3
80 Wayne Garrett 5.3
81 Charlie Deal 5.3
82 Don Money 5.2
83 Scott Brosius 5.2
84 Wid Conroy 5.1
85 Anthony Rendon 5.0
86 Charlie Reilly 5.0
87 Brett Lawrie 4.9
88 Jimmy Austin 4.7
89 James Casey 4.5
90 Bob Jones 4.5
91 Joe Randa 4.4
92 Bobby Morgan 4.4
93 Bill Pecota 4.4
94 Bill Kuehne 4.3
95 Floyd Baker 4.3
96 Frank Hankinson 4.3
97 Abraham Nunez 4.3
98 Edgardo Alfonzo 4.2
99 Dave Malarcher 4.2
100 Garth Iorg 4.2
101 Bob Ferguson 4.1
102 Art Howe 4.1
103 Jack Hannahan 4.1
104 Jimmy ***** 4.0
105 Sammy Hale 4.0
106 Ed Charles 3.9
107 Tim Naehring 3.9
108 Ryan Zimmerman 3.8
109 Chuck Dressen 3.8
110 Shane Halter 3.8
111 Clyde Beck 3.8
112 Todd Frazier 3.7
113 Judy Johnson HOF 3.7
114 Don Wert 3.7
115 Melvin Mora 3.6
116 George Moriarty 3.6
117 Jimmy Brown 3.6
118 Patsy Tebeau 3.6
119 Rube Lutzke 3.6
120 Bill McKechnie HOF 3.5
121 Casey Blake 3.3
122 Austin Riley 3.3
123 Eddie Grant 3.3
124 Luis Cruz 3.3
125 Heinie Zimmerman 3.2
126 Bobby Byrne 3.2
127 Kelly Gruber 3.2
128 Billy Johnson 3.2
129 Rene Gonzales 3.2
130 John McGraw HOF 3.1
131 Hank Majeski 3.1
132 Troy Glaus 3.0
133 George Perring 3.0
134 Barry McCormick 3.0
135 Felton Snow 3.0
136 Chippy McGarr 3.0
137 Chone Figgins 2.9
138 George Pinkney 2.9
139 Don Hoak 2.9
140 Charlie Irwin 2.9
141 Andy Carey 2.9
142 Henry Blackmon 2.9
143 Merrill May 2.8
144 Charlie Hayes 2.8
145 Scott Cooper 2.8
146 Pete Ward 2.7
147 Morgan Ensberg 2.7
148 Dave Brain 2.7
149 Billy Cox 2.7
150 Geoff Blum 2.7
151 Freddie Lindstrom HOF 2.6
152 Odell Hale 2.6
153 Joe Dugan 2.6
154 Ramón Urías 2.6
155 Doug Strange 2.6
156 Ezra Sutton 2.5
157 Bill Mueller 2.5
158 Fred Haney 2.5
159 Leo Gomez 2.5
160 Roy Staiger 2.5
161 Mike Lowell 2.4
162 Lew Riggs 2.4
163 Fred Hatfield 2.4
164 Billy Purtell 2.4
165 Hank Thompson 2.3
166 Red Smith 2.3
167 Doug Rader 2.3
168 Randy Jackson 2.3
169 Dave Chalk 2.3
170 Ryan Roberts 2.3
171 David Bote 2.3
172 George Brett HOF 2.2
173 Walter Barbare 2.2
174 Ian Stewart 2.2
175 Sammy Esposito 2.2
176 Harlond Clift 2.1
177 Luis Urías 2.1
178 Pie Traynor HOF 2.0
179 Mike Pagliarulo 2.0
180 Gio Urshela 2.0
181 Dude Esterbrook 2.0
182 Doug Baird 2.0
183 Jon Berti 2.0
184 Santiago Espinal 2.0
185 Bubba Phillips 2.0
186 Wayne Krenchicki 2.0
187 Milt Stock 1.9
188 Jim Morrison 1.9
189 Joe Yeager 1.9
190 Gunnar Henderson 1.9
191 Don Zimmer 1.9
192 Tex Wisterzil 1.9
193 Randy Johnson 1.9
194 Bill Hague 1.9
195 Matt Dominguez 1.9
196 Chase Headley 1.8
197 Warren White 1.8
198 Hernán Pérez 1.8
199 Harry Jeffries 1.8
200 Deacon White HOF 1.7
201 Joe Mulvey 1.7
202 Ed Gremminger 1.7
203 Ryan Flaherty 1.7
204 Kristopher Negrón 1.7
205 George Kell HOF 1.6
206 Ken Caminiti 1.6
207 Bobby Adams 1.6
208 Chris Stynes 1.6
209 Kevin Orie 1.6
210 Bartolo Portuondo 1.6
211 Steve Mesner 1.6
212 Aaron Boone 1.5
213 Lenny Randle 1.5
214 Sean Burroughs 1.5
215 Zinn Beck 1.5
216 Steve Lyons 1.5
217 Stan Hack 1.4
218 Pinky Whitney 1.4
219 Rich Rollins 1.4
220 Oliver Marcell 1.4
221 Tommy Sheehan 1.4
222 Shane Andrews 1.4
223 Otis Miller 1.4
224 Bruno Betzel 1.4
225 Harry Wolverton 1.3
226 Newt Joseph 1.3
227 Matt Duffy 1.3
228 Kevin Kouzmanoff 1.3
229 Charley Smith 1.3
230 George Rohe 1.3
231 Josh H. Smith 1.3
232 Yoán Moncada 1.2
233 Ernie Riles 1.2
234 Rollie Zeider 1.2
235 Jim Doyle 1.2
236 Scott Leius 1.2
237 Jared Sandberg 1.2
238 Ildemaro Vargas 1.2
239 Howard Easterling 1.1
240 Alex Radcliff 1.1
241 Travis Shaw 1.1
242 Johnny Vergez 1.1
243 Ray Dandridge HOF 1.1
244 Jim Donnelly 1.1
245 Emmanuel Rivera 1.1
246 Andruw Monasterio 1.1
247 Lee Handley 1.0
248 Marv Owen 1.0
249 Jimmy Knowles 1.0
250 Harry Schafer 1.0
251 Ted Bond 1.0
252 Héctor Rodríguez 1.0
253 Joe Stripp 0.9
254 Mike Cubbage 0.9
255 Isaac Paredes 0.9
256 Mike Muldoon 0.9
257 Jose Macias 0.9
258 Javier Pérez 0.9
259 Wally Smith 0.9
260 Denny Lyons 0.8
261 Luis Valbuena 0.8
262 Brian Anderson 0.8
263 Claude Johnson 0.8
264 Johan Camargo 0.8
265 Felix Torres 0.8
266 Bill Shipke 0.8
267 Ramiro Pena 0.8
268 Chris Sabo 0.7
269 Hank Blalock 0.7
270 Fred Hartman 0.7
271 Danny Clark 0.7
272 Russ Johnson 0.7
273 Pete Castiglione 0.7
274 Bill Spiers 0.6
275 Vance Law 0.6
276 Jung Ho Kang 0.6
277 Christian Villanueva 0.6
278 Phil Gagliano 0.6
279 Joe Farrell 0.6
280 Johnson Hill 0.6
281 Dewey Creacy 0.5
282 Doc Prothro 0.5
283 Fred McMullin 0.5
284 Jimmy Burke 0.5
285 Mike Brosseau 0.5
286 Don Lang 0.5
287 Jared Triolo 0.5
288 Ed Pinkham 0.5
289 Al Rosen 0.4
290 David Freese 0.4
291 Luis Salazar 0.4
292 Jace Peterson 0.4
293 Art Phelan 0.4
294 Sam Hairston 0.4
295 Royce Lewis 0.4
296 Jess Brooks 0.4
297 David Wright 0.3
298 Rance Mulliniks 0.3
299 Hick Carpenter 0.3
300 Tommy Glaviano 0.3
301 Gene Robertson 0.3
302 Herbert Perry 0.3
303 Al Gallagher 0.3
304 Jack Saltzgaver 0.3
305 Ray Sheppard 0.3
306 Kid Lowe 0.3
307 John Kelleher 0.3
308 Urbane Pickering 0.3
309 Ray Bates 0.3
310 John Britton 0.3
311 Darrell Evans 0.2
312 Bobby Brown 0.2
313 Billy Grabarkewitz 0.2
314 Chris Brown 0.2
315 Tillie Shafer 0.2
316 Howard Freigau 0.2
317 Josh Jung 0.2
318 Maikel Garcia 0.2
319 Porter Dallas 0.2
320 Jedd Gyorko 0.1
321 Yangervis Solarte 0.1
322 Henry Spearman 0.1
323 Herb Souell 0.1
324 Ralph Hodgin 0.1
325 Spider Jorgensen 0.1
326 Ed Spiezio 0.1
327 Eddie Kazak 0.1
328 Eddie Taylor 0.1
329 Bobby Robinson 0.1
330 Steve Scarsone 0.1
331 Jerry Royster 0.0
332 Ed McDonald 0.0
333 Fred Waterman 0.0
334 Scott Livingstone 0.0
335 Rafael Almeida 0.0
336 Elmer Cleveland 0.0
337 Jim Baxes 0.0
338 Whitey Kurowski -0.1
339 Lonnie Chisenhall -0.1
340 Jumbo Davis -0.1
341 Joe Werrick -0.1
342 Bob Wilson -0.1
343 Jimmy Grant -0.1
344 Ray Boone -0.2
345 Mike Moustakas -0.2
346 Alberto Callaspo -0.2
347 Otto Krueger -0.2
348 Jake Lamb -0.2
349 Mike Sharperson -0.2
350 Candy Jim Taylor -0.2
351 John Irwin -0.2
352 Jack Lohrke -0.2
353 Joe Leonard -0.2
354 Joaquin Arias -0.2
355 Leon Kellman -0.2
356 Justin Turner -0.3
357 Harry Lord -0.3
358 Brook Jacoby -0.3
359 Jack Howell -0.3
360 Ernie Courtney -0.3
361 Craig Worthington -0.3
362 Marlin Carter -0.3
363 Eugenio Suárez -0.4
364 Grady Hatton -0.4
365 Joe Foy -0.4
366 Mark DeRosa -0.4
367 Bill Sudakis -0.4
368 Jim Finigan -0.4
369 Chad Tracy -0.4
370 Parnell Woods -0.4
371 Blake DeWitt -0.4
372 Floyd Rayford -0.4
373 Cody Ransom -0.4
374 Nap Reyes -0.4
375 Skeeter Barnes -0.4
376 Andy High -0.5
377 Bill Stein -0.5
378 Jimmy Walsh -0.5
379 Bill Brubaker -0.5
380 Wayne Gross -0.6
381 Fritz Maisel -0.6
382 Dario Lodigiani -0.6
383 Tom O'Malley -0.6
384 Ezequiel Duran -0.6
385 Paul Schaal -0.7
386 Frankie Gustine -0.7
387 Bill Coughlin -0.7
388 Ed Lennox -0.7
389 Bill Serena -0.7
390 Jud Smith -0.7
391 Toby Harrah -0.8
392 Howie Shanks -0.8
393 Don Ross -0.8
394 Country Brown -0.8
395 Chipper Jones HOF -0.9
396 Jeimer Candelario -0.9
397 Conor Gillaspie -0.9
398 Ellis Clary -0.9
399 Tyler Houston -0.9
400 Jim Bucher -1.0
401 Juan Francisco -1.0
402 Ray Knight -1.1
403 Jake Burger -1.1
404 Willie Greene -1.1
405 Steve Boros -1.1
406 Harry Arndt -1.1
407 Sammy Strang -1.2
408 Les Bell -1.2
409 Oscar Grimes -1.2
410 Buddy Lewis -1.3
411 Josh Rojas -1.3
412 Lefty Marr -1.4
413 Jack Gleason -1.4
414 Levi Meyerle -1.5
415 Roy Howell -1.5
416 Steve Ontiveros -1.5
417 Jeff Manto -1.5
418 Ron Coomer -1.5
419 Kevin Seitzer -1.6
420 Max Alvis -1.6
421 Patrick Wisdom -1.6
422 Bill Boyd -1.6
423 Tim O'Rourke -1.7
424 Willy Aybar -1.7
425 Hans Lobert -1.8
426 Pablo Sandoval -1.8
427 Jim Tabor -1.8
428 Robb Quinlan -1.8
429 Jimmy Johnston -1.9
430 Jim Dyck -1.9
431 Renato Núñez -1.9
432 Bill Joyce -2.0
433 Trevor Plouffe -2.0
434 Carney Lansford -2.1
435 Eduardo Escobar -2.1
436 Willie Jones -2.2
437 Mike Shannon -2.2
438 Dave Roberts -2.2
439 Tony Boeckel -2.3
440 Bernie Friberg -2.4
441 Mike Blowers -2.4
442 Dave Hansen -2.4
443 Kris Bryant -2.5
444 Dave Hollins -2.5
445 Ed Sprague -2.5
446 Casey McGehee -2.5
447 Bill Melton -2.6
448 Lenny Harris -2.6
449 Gene Freese -2.7
450 Denny Walling -2.8
451 Ryon Healy -2.8
452 Cookie Lavagetto -2.9
453 Bob Elliott -3.0
454 Rafael Devers -3.0
455 Mike Lamb -3.0
456 Paul Dade -3.0
457 Rick Schu -3.2
458 Bob Bailey -3.3
459 Roy Hartzell -3.3
460 Maikel Franco -3.3
461 Miguel Andujar -3.3
462 Matt Carpenter -3.4
463 Jim Presley -3.6
464 Pinky Higgins -3.7
465 Hector Lopez -3.9
466 Fernando Tatís -4.1
467 Bob Dillinger -4.3
468 Sean Berry -4.3
469 Shea Hillenbrand -4.3
470 Garrett Atkins -4.4
471 Ray Jablonski -4.4
472 Danny Valencia -4.6
473 Chris Johnson -4.9
474 Russ Wrightstone -5.1
475 Phil Nevin -5.5
476 Wilson Betemit -5.5
477 Richie Hebner -5.6
478 Eric Hinske -5.6
479 J.D. Davis -5.6
480 Darnell Coles -5.7
481 Aramis Ramirez -5.8
482 Jim Ray Hart -6.4
483 Enos Cabell -6.4
484 Bob Aspromonte -6.5
485 Miguel Sanó -6.7
486 Todd Zeile -6.8
487 Paul Molitor HOF -6.9
488 Pedro Álvarez -7.3
489 Mark Teahen -7.3
490 Bob Horner -7.4
491 Howard Johnson -7.8
492 Dean Palmer -8.4
493 Bill Madlock -8.7
494 Edgar Martinez HOF -9.0
495 Eddie Yost -10.7
496 Larry Parrish -11.1
497 Ty Wigginton -11.2
498 Mark Reynolds -12.1
499 Bobby Bonilla -15.6
500 Dick Allen -16.3
9/28/2023 12:34 AM
so RB by the numbers 50% better defensively than the second best 3B in baseball history

9/28/2023 12:36 AM
Posted by The_Creeper on 9/27/2023 4:21:00 PM (view original):
Posted by fatguyrd on 9/26/2023 8:00:00 PM (view original):
HOF and 16x Gold Glover Brooks Robinson has past away.

Being from Philly I always say Mike Schmidt was the greatest of all time (10GG), but defensively we have to give Brooks a small edge.

RIP
Arenado is better than Schmidt defensively. Not really even close.

I only saw Brooks on video so give him the edge in the AL.
the numbers say different

the numbers say a tad a bit a jot a skosh

really close
9/28/2023 3:39 AM
Posted by bagchucker3 on 9/27/2023 7:26:00 PM (view original):
right i switched the subject on you to SS

can you show the list of defensive SS from #1 on down to my boy vizquel

that i might learn

(i can guarantee you that bum jeter is not in the top 200 at the most important defensive position in the field)



re Brooks, each and every? all 16?

surely during that long period o dominance he must have been exceeded at least once
https://www.billjamesonline.com/so_how_many_gold_gloves_should_brooks_robinson_have_won/
9/28/2023 8:09 AM
contrarian23 Interesting article, thanks
9/28/2023 9:53 AM
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