I'm so tired of this continuing to happen Topic

I'm going to waste my time and submit a ticket.  Here we go:

  Ashlando Mustangs
OFF
"Master Blaster"
DEF
PG M. Beltz
100%
M. Bogues
100%
SG K. Smith
100%
M. Jordan
100%
SF S. Lowe
100%
C. Ceballos
100%
PF P. Ewing
100%
C. Barkley
100%
C R. Evans
100%
J. Scott
100%


1.  Belts - not on depth chart at all, not 100% effective at PG.  Is 100% effective at SF.
2.  Smith - not on depth chart at SG, is on depth chart at PG where he is 100% effective.
3.  Lowe - not on depth chart at SF, 90% effective there.  He is on depth chart at PG and SG where he is 100% effective.
4.  Ewing - not on depth chart at PF, is on depth chart at C, the only position he's 100% at.
5.  Evans - not on depth chart at C, is on depth chart at PF, the only position he's 100% at.

WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN?  Every person there could be on the floor at a position they are 100% at.. yet WIS puts the subs at positions they are not 100% at and ARE NOT ON THE DEPTH CHART AT.  This happens consistently to my teams whether they are in foul trouble, blowout situations OR IN NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES.  Sometimes this happens in situations that end up costing me the game.  Most of the time it happens and just forces extreme fatigue in somebody who should never have been on the floor where they were. Luckily (or actually, unfortunately) I was already down big when this happened.

Explain to me why your substitution logic not only ignores my depth chart but common sense on top of it.   I often see guys with the lowest effective position effectiveness for a position put there when there are many others that could fill in.

Thread for the last example:

8/7/2011 9:36 PM (edited)
Wow, lol...in all seriousness ash, if you haven't tried/played hoops dynasty, I would recommend it...I mean hell if it gets my endorsement, it's got to be good, right?  Good luck with that though man, that's ridiculously bizarre.
8/7/2011 11:04 PM
My blood pressure just went up several points. It's just so frustrating that this continues to happen.
8/7/2011 11:26 PM
my sympathies are with you ash
8/8/2011 9:15 AM
Posted by slymonium on 8/7/2011 11:26:00 PM (view original):
My blood pressure just went up several points. It's just so frustrating that this continues to happen.
btw that's why I rarely even bother looking at the PbP - just not good for my mental and physical health
8/8/2011 9:57 AM
Odd, I have gone through nearly every PbP for each team I have done and have never seen this happen.  Is this something that is occurring during the normal flow of the game or during a "clear the bench" period?  Because I always have my "clear the bench" setting at last minute with a huge point difference setting too.
8/8/2011 4:17 PM
happens a lot to me during the normal flow of the game.  felon's in a league where it consistently plagued me (the one with duechovic talking so much).  I had a nice rotation set up between Ray Allen, Michael Redd & Charles Barkley over the 2 & 3 positions.  Yet the sim continually put Kenny Smith in at the 2, which made my usage on the floor too small, which consistently put me into the team possession penalty situation, which cost me a lot of games - mostly against one noob with way too big of mouth - and it did it in the playoffs.

The bottom line is the substitution logic is terrible.  More stoppages in play would go a long way towards helping this, but when the sim fails to recognize it has five players on the floor that are 100% effective from five different positions, yet it puts them in seemingly random positions, I have no confidence that anything can fix it.

Still haven't heard back from the ticket, fyi.
8/8/2011 9:32 PM
This sh!t happens ALL the time
  Seattle Supersikmas
OFF
Aja Jade
DEF
PG D. Smith
100%
C. Gaines
100%
SG C. Ceballos
100%
P. Pressey
100%
SF C. Maxwell
100%
E. Brand
100%
PF B. Williams
100%
T. Washington
100%
C H. Grant
100%
Y. Ming
100%

Derek Smith is not 100% PG nor on the PG depth chart anywhere
__________________

Seattle Supersikmas
OFF
Aja Jade
DEF
N. Anderson
100%
C. Ceballos
100%
H. Grant
100%
R. Evans
100%
J. Sikma
100%
J. Crawford
100%
J. Singleton
98%
T. Washington
100%
F. Sanders
100%
Y. Ming
100%
 
Another example in the same game - why the heck would I want Nick Anderson to play PG?

Lucky I only had one position screwey in this game..

Sorry about the formatting. (I can't be bothered to fix it - much like WIS)

8/9/2011 10:10 AM (edited)
8/9/2011 9:15 AM Customer Support
Josh,

The substitution logic isn't perfect of course. It's a complicated piece of logic that has to account for many different factors and situations. There are times where it doesn't make the same decisions that a human coach would. We'll use your feedback along with other feedback to work on improvements. Thanks.
8/9/2011 7:55 PM
...

Why did I even waste my time?
8/9/2011 7:55 PM
hey, get it? they're 'working on improvments'! too funny
8/10/2011 7:17 AM
Yeah, when all 5 guys are playing OOP...how can you honestly have excuses?
8/10/2011 9:16 PM
It is the same way when you first draft a team.  I had a team with Wilt, Nance, and Duncan....Nance was put at SG by default.
8/11/2011 6:01 PM
I had
one time put Duncan in sg
10/10/2011 1:38 PM
You just need to draft more Magic's and other players who can play multiple positions and you won't have these problems. LOL

I have often thought of putting together a team that had players that were very effective in multiple positions to see if they would do it better. Unfortunately after the last "upgrade" there is less of these players available.
10/19/2011 4:47 PM
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