Top 10 Sim Ballers Topic

as ash just pointed out recently...not alot going on in this forum so ill get some debate going with this one....alot of guys will be obvious, but in what order?....should be some surprises too

pick a year for each player with no repeats so we dont see 5 wilts on a list...thats boring....add comments if you feel like it

you should take into consideration the players salary in 42, 47, and 52 mil leagues


ill start it off...


1. 66-67 Wilt Chamberlain
2. 91-92 Dennis Rodman
3. 87-88 Charles Barkley
4. 78-79 Moses Malone
5. 08-09 Lebron James
6. 88-89 Michael Jordan
7. 08-09 Chris Paul
8. 87-88 Larry Bird
9. 02-03 Tracy McGrady
10. 05-06 Shawn Marion


it was real tough to leave wade and magic off the list....66-67 wilt was an easy pick for me....lebron over mj because hes 1 mil cheaper and shoots 3s....im big on 3s that rebound so thats why bird and marion make the list and rodman and barkley are 2 and 3
2/21/2010 4:10 PM
42-mill leagues:


1. 91-92 Dennis Rodman

No matter what type of team you're running, this guy can fit in. He brings you tons of boards with good efg%, few turnovers, and plays a ton of mintues - at 100% efficiency over 3 positions. He also has high defense and gets you some steals and a few blocks. No real weakness.


2. 78-79 Moses Malone

3390 minutes. 54% shooter, 70%+ in the paint. almost 800 ftas while hitting 70%+ from the line. Doesn't foul, gets some blocks, has 80 defense... oh yeah, he also has 18% oreb and 26% dreb. Only weakness is high turnovers.


3. 87-88 Charles Barkley (89-90 Barkley in virtual tie)

3k+ mintues, 13% oreb, 20%+ dreb, 950 ftas (70%+ make rate), 70%+ paint scoring, 60%+ fg%, 10% ast%, gets a lot of steals and blocks. High turnover, high foul rates are weakness. 60+ def is respectable and all that is really needed in this version of the sim.


4. Steve Nash (most expensive 3 seasons)

Cheap, high ast%, huge efg%, huge ts%. defensive liability, high turnover rate do not punish Nash owners.


5. 02-03 Tracy McGrady

Best bang for the buck at the 2. 13% dreb, 4% oreb, 18% ast%, lot of 3s, lot of ftas, decent % at both, 35% usage, scores like crazy from all 3 zones, low tov%, fouling not a problem. also has 60-something defense.


6. 68-69 Wilt Chamberlain (66-67, 67-68 - ie, the support Wilt)

I choose this version because it's about 3-million bucks less. 15%+ oreb, 26%+ dreb. 3669 minutes. 10%+ ast%. Lot of ftas. High fg%. Will get you 20ppg without taking shots away from your other shooters. Huge paint presence. Will get you 4+ blocks a game without fouling. High turnovers blow, but he doesn't turn it over as much as is listed if you draft enough possessions.


7. 90-91 Terry Porter

58% efg, 130+ threes, decent amount of ftas (especially for a sub 22.1% usg player), 27% ast%, low turnover, low foul. Gets some steals. 65 defense. The perfect PG in this sim.


8. 05-06 Ray Allen (00-01 also great)

Top perimeter scorer in sim. Shoots more 3s than anyone and will shoot more ftas than listed (and at 90%, too). low tov%. Decent dreb (10%) and ast% (12%) for a 2. low defense doesn't seem to punish owner.


9. 96-97 Glen Rice

4.5 million bucks for 3360+ minutes of godliness on the offensive end. Lots of 3s. Many ftas at good % make rate. low tov%. Will shoot over 60% efg% for you in an up-tempo offense. Doesn't foul. Gets some steals. Terrible defense that really doesn't seem to matter. Doesn't hit the glass or pass, but what does it matter with all the rest?


10. Peja, the 3200 minute version.

Only Barkley has a higher ts% among guys with 22% or higher usage. Because of the nature of less ftas than they really got for older players, Peja ends up higher here. He has an incredibly low tov%, doesn't foul and seems to do everything better offensively than he should, while not punishing owners for his spotty defense. He doesn't board well, but 13% dreb is still okay when complimenting board lords like Moses and Rodman.


other good ones:

04-05 Damon Jones
07-08 Dwight Howard
87-88 Larry Bird
88-89, 89-90, 95-96 Michael Jordan
07-08 and 08-09 Lebron James
about 7 Reggie Miller seasons
94-95 Clyde Drexler
Ben Wallace season with 32% dreb
05-06 and 07-08 Chauncey Billups
94-95 Dana Barros
several Bill Russell seasons, 63-64 being foremost.


higher salary leagues demand different things... generally the minute monsters favored in $42 million cap leagues are ousted by guys who do more with their minutes, but don't necessarily play as much. With that in mind, I cannot make one list for both, as most of the guys in the $42 don't make the $52.
2/21/2010 4:39 PM
Good post and some interesting thoughts. I am just learning the game and I am in a league that you are dominating.
2/22/2010 8:58 PM
Some of my thoughts:

88-89 Micheal Jordan (also 87-88 is very good too)

100% at PG, SG, SF at 3255 mins and 95 defense. 16.4% dreb and 22.8% assist with 32.1% usg and 54.1% eFG. And exteremly efficent scorer espeically considering how many shots he takes. To me he's a cookie cutter buster, espically if you put him at PG. Draw back he's turns it over more than his stats say and he's almost $11m in salary.

89-90 Reggie Miller

Not everyone likes him but for me he and Barkley are they most effiecient scorers around. 1287 shots and 2016 points is pretty amazing. He gets to the line and shoots (627 FTA) 86%, he shoots threes (362 3PA) at 41.4% and is eFG% is 57.2%. Reggie is a scoring machine along with low fouls, 12.4 tov% and 3192 mins. What Reggie doesn't do is rebound and defend.

06-07 Jason Kidd

If you are trying to build a great defensive team (there is such a thing!) you have to start with 06-07 Jason Kidd. He's not going to score you a lot of points but he's the Dennis Rodman of the backcourt. Plus his eFG% is 47.5 but typically will shoot in the 50%. Has dreb% of 20 which is insane for a PG and 34.6% assist. Has low TO and fouls. And can defend the PG/SG with a 96 def and has stl% of 2.
2/23/2010 7:14 AM
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